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Posted: 10/30/2005 5:44:43 PM EDT
Hello all,
As promised here it is! For sale for the first time here on ARF15com is the scopes I’ve personally been working with for over two years now, the D-760 (6x) and its little brother the 4x D-740. A while ago I did a side-by-side comparison test between the D-760 and the 6X Raptor. It can be seen here. www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=2&f=209&t=148586 For half the weight and half the price of a Raptor, (Raptors are now restricted for LE/Military) the D-760 line of precision NV riflescopes can’t be beat. Standard features of the 760 and 740 include a waterproof, Mil-Dot illuminated Red-on-Green reticule, high-grade multi-coated optics, and a low profile heavy-duty Picatinny rail mounting system. I can tell you this is the ONLY NV riflescope in the world that has this user selectable amber or red mil-dot reticule. I have found testing this unit that during long hours behind the scope, the amber reticule causes LESS eye fatigue. The color selection is located on the power switch and reticule intensity is also standard on these units. With guaranteed zero retention on heavy caliber weapons (including .50 BMG class), these are the systems of choice among Military and Law Enforcement professionals that have finally become available on the commercial market. I have personally demoed these units to numerous LE and Federal agencies. They are currently in use for clandestine operations in our high desert regions and also in have been in use by our troops. In the pics depicted below, you will see a slight shaded area running vertically. ANY rear-projection reticule riflescopes have a "darker" reticule-plate stripe. This is due to the coating on the etched plate to reflect red/amber light back towards the eye piece. The 4x system will have a more pronounced reticule-plate due to lower magnification and a slightly higher overall brightness. This phenomenon is virtually undetectable with a naked eye (in opposition to a much more sensitive camera) and in no way impairs the performance. I wish our eyes could see in the dark this well! As with my other ads, I HIGHLY recommend (ESPECIALLY with these magnified optics) that you choose the hand-select tube option. All image intensifiers have some imperfections. The combination of high performance and clean cosmetics is both rare and expensive (look at full mil-spec. tubes). Having considered the possibility that some of you are very picky perfectionists (myself included), I also offer the Hand Select version, which includes both very high specs and minimum to none imperfections. If your mission calls for the best, I can accommodate you. Price for this option is $295.00. Here are the typical specifications of the Hand Select image intensifier: ·Thin-Film (weapon mountable) ·Resolution: 64 lp/mm (downgraded), 72 lp/mm (actual, FOM) ·Signal-to-Noise: 27+ ·Photo Response: 2200+ D-760 (6x) Specifications. Maximum Recoil Rating - .375 H&H, .50 BMG and .416 Rigby Image Intensifier - Generation 3 US Resolution - 64-72 lp/mm Magnification - 6x Lens System - 165mm f2.0 FOV - 8˚ @1000 yards - 459’ @1000 meters - 140 meters Range of Focus - 98’ to infinity 30m to infinity Detection Range - 1558’ 475 meters Recognition Range - 1312’ 400 meters Reticule Type - Mil-Dot (illuminated red-on-green) Windage/Elevation Adjustments - ¼ MOA/click @100 yards - 1/4”/click Diopter Adjustment - +3 to -4 Weather Resistant - Water Proof Camera/Camcorder Adaptable - No IR Illuminator - Yes (optional) Battery Type/Life - AA(x2)/60 hours Dimensions - 13” x 3.6” x 4”330mm x 91mm x 102mm Weight - 46 oz 1.3 kg Operating Temperature -40° F to 122° F-40°C to +50°C Warranty - 2 years D-740 Specifications Maximum Recoil Rating - .375 H&H, .50 BMG and .416 Rigby Image Intensifier - Generation 3 US Resolution - 64-72 lp/mm Magnification - 4x Lens System - 100mm f1.5 FOV - 10˚ @1000 yards - 574’ @1000 meters - 175 meters Range of Focus - 33’ to infinity 10m to infinity Detection Range - 1395’ 425 meters Recognition Range - 1148’ 350 meters Reticule Type - Mil-Dot (illuminated red-on-green) Windage/Elevation Adjustments - ¼ MOA/click @100 yards - 1/4”/click Diopter Adjustment - +3 to -4 Weather Resistant - Water Proof Camera/Camcorder Adaptable - No IR Illuminator - Yes (optional) Battery Type/Life - AA(x2)/60 hours Dimensions - 9” x 3.5” x 4”229mm x 89mm x 102mm Weight - 38 oz 1.1 kg Operating Temperature -40° F to 122° F-40°C to +50°C Warranty - 2 years Of course what would a NV scope be WITHOUT PICS! The first sets of pics you see here were taken on a NO moon night with overcast/hazy skies! The stars were dim. I took a pic of a large clump of bushes at approx 1000 yards away. Please note the 1x pic of the distance we are talking here. MOST impressive. 1X through a PVS-14…”What clump of bushes Vic?” HERE! [:-D] Here is the D-740 looking at the same object. This next set of shots were taken high up in the mountains at approx. 7,000’ up with a VERY clear night with NO moon, but I had the help of some good starlight. I tried to show off the dual color reticule here as well. The rock formation depicted here is approx. 550-600 yards away. 1X of course at the rock formation D-760 Amber Mil-Dot Reticule selected D-760, Red Mil-Dot Reticule selected D-740, Amber Mil-Dot Reticule selected D-740, Red Mil-Dot Reticule selected Here are some pics of the actual units D-760 D-740 Here is a pic of the 760 and the 740 together on a few platforms to give you size comparison. Suggested Retail Price for the D-760 Select Alpha is $4099.00 The hand select tube option is $295.00 (As I stated earlier, I HIGHLY recommend). Suggested Retail Price for the D-740 Select Alpha is $3849.00 with the hand-select option at $295.00. Prices shown above do not include S/H and isurance. PayPal and CC please add the 3%. I also will accept Cashiers Check, and Money Orders. Of course I must state here, NO SHIPPING OUTSIDE CONUS, EVER. Shipped to verifiable US addresses ONLY. Thanks again to all have ordered my NV products in the past. These scopes listed here are simply the best pound-for-pound units out there for reaching out and touching something! I’ve worked with these units for far too long to expect anything less and I’ve also worked with the VERY high dollar units as well. You will be VERY happy with either the 760 or 740 units. Please feel free to contact me and alos visit my forum for more pics and discussion. Victor Di Cosola Tactical Night Vision Company [email protected] (909) 659-2842 |
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HI ya,....IM and email back at ya...Never saw your original. Might want to send again. Vic |
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Vic:
I’m seriously thinking about picking up the D-740. I currently use a ATN Crusader and was rather surprised with the parallax error it has. Of course with the proper attention to stock weld a lot of that can be overcome. But you don’t always have the luxury of taking your time. Sometimes the coyotes and hogs are just too quick! How does the D 740/760 stack up on parallax? Also, what’s your current price and availability? I definitely want to go the hand select route. Shipping would be to central Texas. Can you give some examples of the specs on the tubes you currently have in stock? Thanks for your time! Oh, and by the way, I appreciated your response on my question about IR illuminator visibility elsewhere on AR15. |
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Hi,
There is NO parallax issues with either the 740's or the 760 line, NONE. I will email you the information you have reqested as well. Thanks, Vic Edited to add, Your email/IM disabled, give me a jingle or email/IM at your lesisure. thanks |
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Victor:
Do you have a suggestion for a quick disconnect mount to use with the D-740? With some of the varmints I go after, hogs and coyotes for example, I may start out ~ 2 hour before sundown and stay out until well after dark. Obviously the D-740 doesn’t come into play until well after sunset. Being able to switch from daytime optics to night optics quickly, with a reliable return to zero, is important. Thanks for your help! |
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Has anyone taken you up on that offer yet? |
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Indeed somone has...Two days later after I listed the ad! I should have taken this blurb out...Sorry. I've sold NUMROUS units since then. Thanks again all! John, lucky you, since you caught it I will extend the offer to you. Vic |
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In that case, I guess I'll have to buy one (a hand select D-760). It'll take about a week to get the money together. |
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Glad I could help then! When you email or call, make sure you mention this exchange for the discount along with your ARFcom screen name. Thanks
Vic |
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The e-mail's been sent. D-760 with the hand select tubes. Damn that hurts just thinking about how much this is going to cost. I coulda had a 50-inch plasma TV and a year's worth of cable. But enough about that. I'm thinking about putting it on an AR-10 (for which I'll probably be needing one of those new Magpul PRS stocks). The one I was thinking about putting it on is a post-ban model with a muzzle brake. Is the flash from the muzzle and the compensator likely to adversely affect the NV scope? |
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LOL on the TV! BUT, can your TV spot your female neighbor....Ah, never mind as I was quoting a customer of mine describing what he saw with his unit at 200m away! Indeed the Magpul stock is a MUST have for these scopes, well for all NV in general with high cheek welds. In regards to the muzzle flash, depending on what model you have there could be quite a bit of flash. You could be blind for about a 1/4 of a second. Rapid fire even longer. Of course no damage to the scope from these muzzle flashes, just a bit of a white nothing fog layer. I will be back in the office this afternoon and retrieve your email. Thanks John |
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Evening all! I’ve had a chance to play with the D-740 for a few days, and thought I would give my first impressions. First let me state what it’s used for, and why I selected 4x instead of 6x.
First of all, I’m an out of shape, past middle age rancher. Definitely not a high speed / low drag military or LEO guy (although I do fondly remember those military days!). Instead of hunting bad guys, I hunt varmints. And as you can guess from my job, rancher, I live in rural America. The nearest town of any size is ~18 miles away, and a large town is ~40 miles away, so the only light I have at night is what Mother Nature supplies. To me, that means I’m more interested in light amplification/gain then Halo. Typically, my primary targets are feral dogs, hogs, coyotes, and the occasional big cat. The terrain is pastures with treed fence lines, so target recognition is always within 400 yards, with the typical shot being less than 150 yards. Many times the tree line is no more then 200 yards away, so FOV is critical. When hunting coyotes, and especially cats, you don’t always have time to “hunt” for the target with your scope. You need to spot your target (I use a Mini-14), transition to your rifle, get the cross hairs on it, and squeeze the trigger. Since I want a good FOV, and on moonless nights the available light is stars only (remember, I’m rural), the 4x looks better to me then the 6x, hence the selection of the D-740. So now for my opinion on the scope- I’m really impressed with the weight, or rather the lack of weight. I had been using a Crusader (Gen 2), and there’s no comparison in the weight department. Size is another plus, this thing is just not that big. Again, it’s much better then the Crusader. The Crusader was always a little awkward with the rifle slung, but it’s not a problem with the 740. Sighting the scope in was no problem. The adjustments are positive, with good tactile feedback when turned. The mount seems to work pretty good. To test return to zero, I dismounted and remounted the scope several times with no appreciable change to point of impact at 100 yards. Having said that, I’m still not convinced the mount will continue to give good service after many mounts/dismounts, so I intend to pick up an ARMS #19 mount and stop worrying about it. The picture is something to behold! After using Gen 2 for sometime now, the D-740 appears unbelievable to my eyes. The clarity and brightness are something to see on a dark moonless night. The other morning the sky was slightly overcast so no stars were shining through. I turned on my illuminator to scan a field for signs of the cat I had been following, and could pick out a rabbit ~ 200 yards away. About 20 min later I watched a bobcat cross the field about 300 yards away. To me that is truly impressive capability! In both cases I could easily have taken the shot. I also like the positive nature of the focus. On my Crusader, if you inadvertently bump the focus ring (which happens often when slung) you have to refocus the scope. Not an issue on the 740. The focus knob is on top of the scope, is about the size of the elevation and windage knobs, and has positive clicks to lock the adjustment in. I have yet for the focus to inadvertently move on me. It’s also easy to operate with gloves on, as are the on switch and the reticule intensity controls. I keep comparing the 740 to the Crusader since that’s what I have. To set the stage, I want to say the Crusader is not a piece of garbage! It’s a effective scope, and has served me very well. It’s just the 740 is that much better! I find I don’t particularly care for the shuttered eye guard. It seems it’s always a little off center, so consequently I lose some of the sight picture. I talked with Vic about this, and it appears the Magpul PRS stock will go a long ways in correcting the problem. Until I pick up the stock from Vic, I’ll use the scope with the eye guard removed. I really like the amber reticule. It’s easy on the eyes, is not distracting like the red, and I see the Mil Dot marks better. After one night of flipping between the two, I’ve settled on the amber. I’ve included a couple of pictures to try and give an idea of how well this scope “sees”. The first picture is of some horses taking a late night snack at the hay feeder. The horses are ~80 yards away, and the moon is ~1/4 full. The trees in the background are ~300 yards away. The second picture is of the entrance to the ranch. I picked this one since it shows the level of detail this scope is capable of. The gate is ~50 yards away. The final picture is looking out over one of the pastures. The first fence line is probably 200 yards, and the tree line is ~400 - 450 yards. If there is interest, I plan to take pictures under different lighting conditions and post to the site, and update my impressions as I log more time with the 740. I have to say though; my first impression is I’m impressed! Edit to add: Oops, I don't seem to have rights to post pictures...maybe some other time. |
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Thank you for the fine report....If you need help with the pics, please feel free to email me and I can post them. Glad your enjoying the scope, I knew you would! The PRS will help with the sight alignment and consistant cheek welds. In regards to the mount, I have mounted and re-mounted both my 740 and 760's too many times over the last year to count and I still have not have any zero problems. Hope this helps and thanks again for your report.
Vic |
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Choosing between the 4X nd the 6X may not be a simple matter! For the record, is there no variable magnification NV scope?
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No, only fixed at 4x or 6x. How is that MUM working! Vic |
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All I can say at the moment is there are a few specs in the image, but whether they are defects in the tube or dust on the lenses, I haven't had time to check. There was a larger piece of tissue paper caught on one edge of the eyepiece glass which I fished off with a cleaning pen, which makes me suspect the lenses just need to be cleaned (must pick up a camera lens puffer brush). My plan is to really test it out this weekend. Living in a city and near a private airfield, my immediate surroundings aren't exactly conducive to a good test. Lower in my county is all agricultural land. I can say that indoors, the Torch is way too bright. Even using the daylight cover on the MUM indoors at night the Torch over illuminates. No haloing, no sparkle, just too well lit. I look forward to testing the MUM with an M1. Working on some other related items, too. Once I complete negotiations/sale, these may get posted in my ignored thread on NV accessories. ::smile:: |
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HI N,
ALL tubes have some sort of small specks! I have NOT seen a perfect tube yet? Have you ever looked at some military tubes out there with pea sized blems in many areas or for that matter many other dealer tubes? I pride myself on GREAT tubes for all my customers, and small specks are not an issue and do nothing to the performance of the tube nor the operation. As for your ignored post on the NV Accessory thread, you mean the one I responded two 4 hours ago? Ignored Thread As for the torch being used for indoors, it's not made for an indoor light! It's effective range is out to 300M! I've ALWAYS stated the M1 is to be used for CQB, it's the best thing for that type if mission. If you do not like the torch, I will refund your money immediately. You will be the first that has returned the unit as these units are the best at med to long range engagements. |
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I'm aware of that. I'm not complaining. Rather, if the lenses are only dusty from transit, I can clean them, then brag about the even better quality than initially thought ::smile::.
No. I started another one on other accessories. And by "accessory", I don't mean optional components for a given system. I mean products you might use related to night vision.
Refund? You must be kidding. Anything that works this well is usually banned by the fed. I should probably consider getting a spare, but I'm waiting to see what your upgrade looks like. (The ability to mount a throw lever rail adapter would be nice, for example. Then again, I've said before you should consider obtaining data on SureFire and PentagonLight body threads and make a 6vDC conversion head with o-ring seals. Once they are remote switch capable (controled by the body's tailcap), you could sell them by the truckload!) I knew well up front the Torch wasn't designed to be a CQB illuminator and have no intentions of using it for such. I turned it on to see if it worked and was surprised at just how bright it was indoors. You know I just had to see what would happen. Or, you could call it "benchmark testing". ::smile:: |
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Hi N,
Thanks for the clarifications... As for the accessory other thread, that must have been on my EE ad. I cannot actually reply there immediately due to BTT rules, i.e. 72hrs or a page 4 btt. As for the torch, you could add the ARMS #17DR, thats what I have done and it works well. Sure I could have added this to begin with but the added cost was not condusive to the current cost we wanted the retail at of $199.00. Thanks, Vic |
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Actually, it's in the Armory ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=6&f=18&t=195311
I'll be looking into that right away. Would it completely replace the existing mount or are you suggesting to stack the existing mount on top of the ARMS #17DR? |
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You would have to stack the existing mount for the 17DR. Thanks
Vic |
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Vic,
Can you send me complete specs on both these units, including weights, run times, accessory pricing (sacrificial windows, etc.), and ETA : Are there even any rumors concerning an objective lens add-on to rival the range/performance of the Raptor? |
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Why would you want an objective lens add-on? The D-760 DOES rival the Raptor out to 1000 yards. If you read my review, there is a VERY, VERY slight edge to edge sharpness in the raptor past 700 yards. It's VERY slight. Very quickly, price for the Raptor is $7,100.00. Weight 5lb 8oz. Also, no adapter to convert to 3V. |
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I don't know that there is a need for an add-on. The information is being collected for Phase II of a project I'm working on. During Phase I, I allowed my perception of the projects requirements to limit the information I provided which caused me to have to go back and collect more. Rather than go through that again, I'm attempting to cover all the bases. |
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Any word on the expected price increases for the D-740/D-760? I'd love to get one for the project I'm working on, but it simply won't happen before next month.
Incidentally, I cleaned the eyepiece lens on my MUM^2 with the result that it's quite nearly spec-free. This is an amazing tube and I highly recommend the hand select option! Folks, it really is well worth the additional investment. Can't wait to try it out with the new M1 and IR sticks. Now, if Victor only had a layaway program for a D-760 to lock in the current price.... |
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NO info as yet on the exact price hike numbers.
Glad your enjoying the hand select MUM, I knew you would like the gear! Thanks N! Vic |
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Buy now....save later!!! I have both and they ROCK!!! Vic is a straight shooter both on the trigger and business-wise. Thanks a ton Vic!!!
Freddy |
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I have decided that the price hike will ONLY effect the hand-select tube options. The base price WILL remain the same to all units, (that is GOOD NEWS) while the hand-selects tube option are now at $295.00. Freddy, thanks for the kind words as always! Vic |
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