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Posted: 9/3/2010 7:23:05 AM EDT
I'm Marine IRR and plan on going into the army start of next yr, was wondering what the transition proccess was like.

Plan is to be a 19D cav scout with contract airborn for jump school.

I know I wont go to boot but is their a trasition class or somehting so I know when to salute(do you really salute in doors without a cover on?), what ribbons and medals will trasfer, stupid stuff like that.

Any info ya'll think will help me would be great, thanks.

Link Posted: 9/3/2010 2:00:58 PM EDT
No, you don't salute indoors. I'm pretty sure the rules for saluting are the same across all branches.

Have fun at airborne school!
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 2:15:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/3/2010 2:16:39 PM EDT by Pegasus6]

Originally Posted By PooFire:
No, you don't salute indoors. I'm pretty sure the rules for saluting are the same across all branches.

Have fun at airborne school!

Marines don't salute without a cover on. The only time this would really make a difference is right before PT and PT formation since you'll wear a beret all other times that you're outdoors (not in the field).

Oh yeah, Airborne school is gay/easy. There will probably be a few Marines in your platoon...mainly cool-guy recon or what not.
Link Posted: 9/4/2010 4:20:55 AM EDT
You call everyone E5-E7 "sergeant". I still can't get used to this...it's not like an extra two words ("first class") is all that much extra work.

Career lance jacks in the Corps? They're specialists in the Army.

The formation D&C, in addition to the above-noted PT confusion, is a little different. Not by much, but enough that I still catch myself wondering what just happened.

And as to trying to make a pair of ACU's look anything approaching neat and tidy, just give up now.
Link Posted: 9/4/2010 8:06:34 PM EDT
Thanks for clearing up the saluting part, I can see a lot of old habits getting me into trouble.
Link Posted: 9/4/2010 9:00:17 PM EDT
lol all the prior service Marines I've met said they got all sorts of messed up by the whole "counter-column march" thing
Link Posted: 9/5/2010 2:35:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/5/2010 2:36:14 PM EDT by Banana_Sandwich]
Yeah Dude I crossed over about 3 years ago and I still cant grasp this whole Army thing!
Can't really put my finger on what is wrong but man things weird if you've been a jarrhead to long.

That said, say far away from "Big Army" if you can. I found it to be flustering and assbackwards most of the time.


Oh and have fun at Airborne school, it about to be the biggest let down of your military life. (No pun intended)
Link Posted: 9/5/2010 3:38:13 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Banana_Sandwich:
Oh and have fun at Airborne school, it about to be the biggest let down of your military life. (No pun intended)

What did you expect it to be?
Link Posted: 9/5/2010 7:09:16 PM EDT
Having played opfor at NTC and dealing with that I can only imagine how weird dealing with Big Army must be.
Link Posted: 9/5/2010 8:54:41 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Pegasus6:

Originally Posted By Banana_Sandwich:
Oh and have fun at Airborne school, it about to be the biggest let down of your military life. (No pun intended)

What did you expect it to be?


When into it being told things like "...If your not Airborne your not shit!" then when I got done I was like "really?!" you could teach monkeys to do that shit in 3 days. I know dudes that had renlisted just to goto that school. There is nothing elite about it but folks act like having wings is like a third dick. Why?
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 6:35:01 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Banana_Sandwich:
Originally Posted By Pegasus6:

Originally Posted By Banana_Sandwich:
Oh and have fun at Airborne school, it about to be the biggest let down of your military life. (No pun intended)

What did you expect it to be?


When into it being told things like "...If your not Airborne your not shit!" then when I got done I was like "really?!" you could teach monkeys to do that shit in 3 days. I know dudes that had renlisted just to goto that school. There is nothing elite about it but folks act like having wings is like a third dick. Why?

Because they're fucking morons.
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 7:05:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/6/2010 7:07:24 PM EDT by Infantry26]

Originally Posted By K1rodeoboater:
lol all the prior service Marines I've met said they got all sorts of messed up by the whole "counter-column march" thing


One of the most beautiful things I saw was all of our LTs (PLs) leading the columns for some weird reason and the E-5 that was told to march them/do cadence said to counter column......talk about fucked up like a soup sandwich.


It's not like we did it THAT much better but the LTs were embarrassed. I still hate countercolumn. Or when you get a surprise "to the rear, march." I guess I just like to coast and shut off my brain while marching.
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 8:17:04 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Banana_Sandwich:

That said, say far away from "Big Army" if you can. I found it to be flustering and assbackwards most of the time.


Whats "Big Army"? Is that like Big Brother or somthn.

After grunt cav im gona switch to armor cav and stay their till my body says other wise, is that gona keep me away from the shit?
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 10:36:29 AM EDT
What is Big Army? Well where does it begin and where does it end is hard to say. If anything its an Idea or train of thought that NCO, officers and chain of commands fall into. No one place or unit is completely void of its presents and influence but some units or location are known for it.

Basically its military bureaucracy at the most extreme level you have every seen. The Army as you know is much bigger than our beloved U.S.M.C and there for has more moving parts. Also the general quality of folks coming into the Army seems a bit lower. So like any complicated and over engineered machine made with a few sub-par components, you will have crazy assbackward shit going on.

That said not all is lost. There are many fine Army units and men out there that are fighting the good fight and have created some top notch groups that command respect and admiration.
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 1:20:47 PM EDT
One of the most knowledgeable and all around solid Squad Leaders I ever worked with was prior Marine Recon. That guy knew his shit inside and out. The Army's oddball BS ate at him and he was going to hit up SF selection because he was just tired of having his hands tied. Every time he wanted to do solid training they shut him down. He hated the "Safety Dictates Training" mentality. They fucked his retention paperwork up and he ended up just ETSing. Army lost a crazy resource because some clerk decided to leave his paperwork under a pile of papers. I wanted to find that lazy fuck and kick him in his chest for that. This dude would have passed selection easy. Army loses another good NCO. Most of the guys I really looked up to got the fuck out. The Army needs to do some soul searching because the BS machine has been in full gear for a few decades now and it's driving people out. Only guys I knew staying in had no other options due to family concerns.
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 2:27:59 PM EDT
don't sweat the training thing it's a few weeks of paid vacation. I'm an Airborne Cav Scout so Ill probably see you here at Bragg. I like it. I will say I've known a few Marines that came over and non of them liked it. Good luck. IM me if you have any ?s
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 7:53:41 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Bonk2029:
You call everyone E5-E7 "sergeant". I still can't get used to this...it's not like an extra two words ("first class") is all that much extra work.

Career lance jacks in the Corps? They're specialists in the Army.

The formation D&C, in addition to the above-noted PT confusion, is a little different. Not by much, but enough that I still catch myself wondering what just happened.

And as to trying to make a pair of ACU's look anything approaching neat and tidy, just give up now.


Actually, they are referred to as "Terminal Lance"

Link Posted: 9/10/2010 7:18:47 PM EDT
Thanks for the info guys, helps a lot.
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