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Posted: 12/12/2001 8:21:43 PM EDT
I was getting kinda curious about what kind of stuff the average cop carries while on duty. Of course, there's the usual stuff like badge, guns, ammo, cuffs, and radio. What about nonlethal weapons like nightsticks, mace-like sprays, electric stun-guns? Flashlights, phone? Back-up gun or knife? As long as we're at it, what kind of gun and how much spare ammo? Oh yeah, does anyone carry those zip-tie things instead of cuffs? Or those funny hinged cuffs? Anything else interesting? Damm, that's a lot of questions. Oh well. [:D]
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From the left of my Sam Browne buckle; two 7 round mags .45 ACP Hydra shocks, Leatherman, MKIII pepper spray, portable radio, mini mag light, linked cuffs, one 7 round mag .45 ACP hydra shocks, hinged cuffs, collapsible baton, S&W 4516.
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Belt:
Remote Microphone for patrol car video system. Glock 19 Peerless cuffs Key keeper Pacset holder (Motorola encrypted 800Mhz POS) First Defense OC spray straight stick Surefire 6P 2 spare mags Left SAP pocket: Streamlight stinger Cuff key Right Sap pocket: Spyderco Endura Leather gloves Big Gall's gear bag:(sits on passenger seat) Posse box cite book holder quick codes OPM manual/Rules & regs Baby wipes Rubber gloves Water bottle First aid kit (personal) Spare batteries Spare 9mm ammo Spare 12Guage shells Spare handcuffs Map books Nokia cellphone Sunglass Photon microlight Red lense for Surefire Kowa 8X Binoculars 1 gallon ziplock bags (for prisoners pocket contents) Trunk: Riot helmet with face shield Rain gear Jacket & gloves Rubber Gloves Breathalizer Report Forms Box |
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I am a Narc....
depending on situation and day 1911 45 or S&W 38 Cheap Folding Knife or Boot Knife Sorry..not very exciting, but I really can't carry very much. |
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When I wear a uniform (clockwise with the occasional detour to a pocket):
-Body mike for video. -Key holder. -Pager. -Four spare keys to the car, in various pockets (I have locked myself out too many times) -Cheap folding lockblade knife -SIG P229 -ASP -Double handcuff case -A pair of leather gloves stuffed in my back pocket -Glove pouch w/ two pairs of gloves -2 spare magazines. -Wallet. -Streamlight Stinger -Radio w/ lapel mike (Motorola trunked) -OC spray (CAPSTUN; effective but short-ranged and a cone spray that gets everybody present, including you, your back-up, innocent bystanders and small animals. If you ever hear anyone coughing into the radio, you know they are asking for assistance because they just gassed a combative subject. It also takes hours to decon). -Flashlight ring. -2 spare magazines. -2 keyed black flexcuffs, threaded under the pouches. -Body armor (always). -Back-up gun (a Glock 30, because my wife won't let buy anymore guns, unless they are really cheap; think foreign surplus at the gun show). -in one breast pocket, a pen, white-out pen and a notebook w/ a Miranda card paperclipped to the front. -in the other breast pocket, business cards, traffic template, card w/ my association's emergency contact #s and 24 legal #, prox card, another pen, and a handcuff key. -Oh yeah, and a badge and a nametag. I'd be here a couple of hours if I tried to list everything in my car. Most of that stuff is issued, and my agency is excellent about equipment. They issue us everything and are always in the process of buying more new stuff. If I were still on the streets, I don't know where I would have put anything else; I was out of room in my car. Among the major items, every officer has an assigned take home vehicle, issued as soon as they complete FTO. Every vehicle has two shotguns, one for beanbag only. Every car has video, stop sticks, radar and a bunch of other stuff, Cars get retired at 70K. Cell phone and pager issued. Uniforms and dry cleaning provided. Weapons and duty gear issued. Lots of training on all of the above. One of the highest paid agencies in our area, with great community support (and a great community to work for). It is really nice working for a progressive agency. Now that I work in plain clothes, I carry a pistol, a set of handcuffs, a pager and a cell phone. If I am going to in the field, I add a vest, a radio and a couple of magazines. |
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Anyone ever weigh all the krap we carry on a belt?
Clockwise from beltbuckle: two fifteen round magazines of .40 S&W Buck folder clipped to pants under duty belt ASP baton 18" S&W Sigma pistol in Safari 295 holster (Soon to change to SIG P229 .40 [:)]) Cuff case with S&W cuffs and latex gloves Space in center 2nd Cuff case with S&W cuffs 6-P light Motorola MT1000 radio CapStun OC spray (Yes, this stuff is hard to decon, using it is like a Nuke strike, mutually assured discomfort for all on scene) Miranda card, notebook, two pens, disposable eye drops for OC decontamination in left shirt pocket. Wallet with no police nuttin in back right pants pocket. ID wallet with ID, badge, dept phone #'s, Mirand card, asst. misc. stuff in left back pocket. Three car keys, two handcuff keys in various places, cause I don't like getting locked out either. Kahr K-9 backup pistol used to be carried in vest straps using an Eagle IWB holster when they let us carry [:(] |
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Quoted: Anyone ever weigh all the krap we carry on a belt? View Quote When I was a Marine MP I weighed my duty belt once. As I recall, it was something like 14lbs. What I carry now (civilian LE): Duty belt (clockwise from buckle): 2 spare Sig P229 mags (Hydra-Shok, carried horizontally) Sig P229 in Safariland Level III holster 26" ASP Peerless hinge cuffs Peerless chain cuffs Streamlight Stinger Radio (Motorola MT1000) Counter Assault OC-10 Pouch with latex gloves (the thick blue ones) and a CPR Microshield Streamlight SL-20X in left sap pocket Leather gloves or Hatch Specialist gloves (depending on weather) in left back pocket Spyderco Police clipped on body armor straps (our shirts have zippers) Left breast pocket: Small notebook Business Card Holder (with cards, lunch money, and 7-11 coffee club card) 2 el cheapo pens (you lose them really easily) Right breast pocket: Field Interview cards, DUI cards, and Miranda card clipped with a binder clip Pocket-sized RCW Pen-style cuff key Lots of stuff in the car (not a take-home car). High points are: Taser Benelli M1S90 with 14" barrel Colt LE6920 (my own) StopSticks I'm not even gonna try to list everything in my gear bag. SeMPer Fi |
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I don't know about just my duty belt, but I once got on a scale in just a pair of shorts, then in full uniform. The gear/uniform added 22 pounds.
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right to left, front to back. In front right, hand cuff case, OC spray, surefire light, glock 22, spare handcuffs, latex glove pouch, stinger flashlight, asp baton, silent key holder, spare magazine. knife in right trouser pocket. Misc stuff in my right BDU cargo pocket. PDA in my shirt pocket. Lots of crap
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Starting on Right hip and going to the rear and back around:
Kimber .45 OC - Bodyguard LE 5% (Prefer Punch but oh well) Peerless linked cuff Stinger flashlight Radio ASP (in a swivel scabbard) two extra .45 mags On vest: Glock 27 with ten round mag In car: Remy 870 Bushy M-4 SWAT stuff Medical Bag (BlackHawk's S.T.O.M.P.) Duty Bag with all kinds of the usual stuff Vampyre: No backup firearm? Something ain't right with that. Natez - you keep talking about how good your agency is, you might convince some of us to....... [:D] edited because I ain't had no coffee yet!!!!! |
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Too much crap to mention so I'm just gonna say what's on the batman belt.
Pager Two Extra Mags Baton Radio two pair of cuffs latex glove holder sidearm |
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23 pounds. Clockwise from buckle: vehicle keys, Leatherman Wave, Peerless cuffs, S&W 5906, 26" ASP, Rubber glove pouch, First Def OC, SureFire 9N, Motorola 800 MHz MTS2000, 2 15 round mags.
Patrol; bag crammed full of forms, tickets, guides, maps, spare batteries, Anacin, Tylenol Cold and Sinus, Disinfectant, Sunscreen, Traffic Vest, Mad Dog ATAK2 knife, two extra pairs of cuffs Two 24 OZ bottles of frozen water daily. Tool bag with sockets and driver inserts, rain gear, box of rubber gloves, GI shovel, pry bar Riot bag with kevlar helmet, face shield, Mark 95 gas mask, Class B chem suit, butyl gloves, hazmat boots, shin guards, black BDUs, biohazard mask, flight gloves, flight suit, shooting mat, boony hats (OD/Navy), assault vest with 8 AR15 magazines, Flecktarn poncho AR15 A3 tac carbine RAS ACOG TA01 SureFire 962, vertical foregrip Evidence processing toolbox. Shirt pockets: three pens, PD access card, handcuff key, closing codes, business card holder, whistle Pants pockets Left pocket spare keys to vehicle, folded money, right pocket blocked by holster, left rear ID Vest pocket Handcuff key, Microtech M-UDT, spare vehicle key Think that's about it. edited twice to add pocket stuff |
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You make think I'm crazy but very litte. After almost 22 years of wearing this gear and sitting in a unit my lower back is totally screwed up. At this point in my career the only thing on my black basket weave belt is a Glock 22c in SS3 holster, cuffs, OC spray, baton ring, and small Surefire light. That's it. A few years ago I removed my expandable baton and my extra clips and put the clips in my door with easy access. Just removing those 2 things reduced the weight by half I would estimate.
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On the belt:
double mag pouch USP 45 compact w/ Fed. 230gr. HydraShocks in Safariland SS070 ASP 21" baton 2 pair Peerless cuffs Motorola P1225 Surefire 8X Gerber Multiplier Freeze +P OC spray Benchmade auto in back pocket In the car: Gearbag w/ usual crap...er... essential gear Rem. 1187P in veh. mount (in all marked cars) Personally issued SWAT weapons - M16A2 and MP5A3 |
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30 some odd lbs
going around..... key holder mic for camera Gerber multi-tool Glock 22 Double rubber glove pouch ASP Double handcuffs Streamlight stinger Radio Cell phone Emerson Police Utility Knife OC Double mag pouch Then: Soft body armor with addition "items" on or about person. My unit is "light" No camera or cage (so I don't have to wear the mic normally, only if Im in a unit that has a camera) I have: Dash masters, and rear lights (blue in KY for police) Ar15 Binoculars Haz mat book fire ext. a big rubbermaid tub in the truck with: hazmat/OSHA/blood borne crap like rubber gloves, CPR mask, sharps cont, ect. Man, If you really think about all the junk we carry, its a wonder the units don't crap out. Art in KY |
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From belt buckle to right...
Peerless Hinge Cuffs, Safariland SS III with Kimber .40 S&W (they took our .45's away 2 years ago...)Nothing in back. Motorola Radio (with mike to left shoulder), MK 4 pepper foam, ASP, four 8 rd. mags (with Federal 155gr. Hi-Shoks), and last but not least, a set of S&W chain cuffs. All the duty gear is ORCA nylon (with suspenders) Benchmade Mini Reflex auto knife in left shirt pocket (emergency extraction device) and Benchmade CQ7 clipped to right pocket. Kubotan in left pocket with extra car / door / cuff key. S&W M-42 in Galco ankle rig (left leg). Speed strip in right pants / right shirt pockets. Surefire 6R in back pocket. Streamlights in car. Colt AR-15 A-3 w/ SureFire light mount, in car, 18 rds in mag in the rifle, 28 rds (in a 30 rd mag) on stock mounted mag carrier. 4 extra 30 rd mags in my duty bag in the vehicle. |
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CW from belt buckle: Glove pouch, OC spray (Fox 5.3), Duty pistol (issued Beretta 92s, but I carry a Sig P229 .40), ASP baton, baton ring (for the PR-24), chain cuffs, hinged cuffs, SureFire 6p, flashlight ring, radio holder, dual mag pounch (vertical).
In the car: an 870 (Marine magnum) and a Colt M4 between the seats. Less lethal (12g bean bags) in the trunck. I'm pushing for tasers this year for everyone (check out basis). MSH441 |
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OC 10% G-21 2 pr latex gloves mic for video handcuffs Maglite ring large S+W lockblade Sure-Fire M-3 Winchester-Wilmoth baton radio 2 mags in my pocket 1-2 "shoe-string" restraints in the car on the squad bag 2 more mags, 2 more cuffs(1 Hiatt's hinged, 1 S+W giant cuffs), a surefire 6-R, AN-PVS-7B, plastic flex cuffs, and a boot knife. Company stuff usually in the car AED, PBT, 35mm camera, digital camera, Rem 870, window punch, MDC, cb, scanner, radio, handheld spotlight, and a video system. In the trunk Spikes, flares, fire extinguisher, first aid "jump kit", 50 lbs of evidence supplies, 100' tape measure, measuring wheel, big ass crow bar, slim jim, and teddy bears. |
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Hey Oly, not to be rude, but why would you leave your extra mags off? Don't most departments require you to carry them??
On a side not: I have a spare vehicle key in my vest, trouser pocket, shirt pocket, jacket pocket, id holder, and business card holder. As you can see, I'm prone to locking myself out, or loosing keys! |
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Starting at the right and moving clockwise around the belt:
HK USP 40 in an Uncle Mike's retention holster A holder for a walkie-talkie A nylon handcuff holder w/ S&W cuffs A double-ring nightstick/flashlight holder A pouch containing a Fox pepper spray A double magazine pouch This is the stuff we are required to have and I keep it at the minimum. I saw my dad and other career cops develop back problems from overloaded batbelts which they were mandated to carry. Cell phones, pagers and other stuff can stay in the car. |
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Sheesh, you guys are armed to the teeth! You must be playing offence!
I've got a Glock 27 w/cor-bon 135's in it on my left ankle (alessi rig) and a benchmade AFCK clipped in my jeans pocket...I'm on defense! Thats it...do I feel well protected? HELL YEA. |
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Beretta 96G .40 sidearm, speer Gold Dot 180gr.
Glock 27 Remington 870 police magnum Colt M4 Select Fire with Aimpoint M2 HK MP5 9mm with Eotech Holosight 551 A Buttload of Magazines 80 pounds of Belgian Malinois All Department Issue |
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Quoted: Hey Oly, not to be rude, but why would you leave your extra mags off? Don't most departments require you to carry them?? View Quote ?? I listed 2 mags on the belt, and 2 mags in the car, plus one in the gun. 5 mags, the ones on me are "high caps" the ones in the car are 10 rounders, mostly used to top off the one in the gun when I have to put down wounded animals. |
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Para-ordinance p-14LDA, 2-14rd mags, gerber lockback,peerless hinged cuffs, S&W chain cuffs,MT-1000 radio, 2 pair latex gloves, and Glock27 as backup. In patrol unit REM 870 and large gear bag.
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I had to swap out to a new unit the other day. Man, I had forgotten just how much junk I had.
Car: Scatter Gun Tech. 870 Bushy M4 stinger charger notebook comp. 1 meter leash 15 meter trackin lead retractable leash muzzle k9 reward toys Trunk: 10 30rd AR Mags 300 rds 5.56mm 6 beretta .40 mags 300 rds .40 extra CSB Water Cooler rain gear med kit 6 leashes K9 training aids pooper scooper jumper cables food and water bowls spare tracking harness muzzle binoculars I just know I forgot something! Full-Auto: I have a mallie too, she's a hand full. Bazz-tard |
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Quoted: Quoted: Hey Oly, not to be rude, but why would you leave your extra mags off? Don't most departments require you to carry them?? View Quote ?? I listed 2 mags on the belt, and 2 mags in the car, plus one in the gun. 5 mags, the ones on me are "high caps" the ones in the car are 10 rounders, mostly used to top off the one in the gun when I have to put down wounded animals. View Quote wrong oly, I was talking to olyarms415, sorry for the confusion |
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Nice stuff [^]
Just the other day I happened to be in a mall in Orlando. I noticed that there were a few sherrifs hanging around who were carrying 2 pistols on their belts, one in the normal strong-side position, and another in a kinda cross-draw position. Doesn't carrying a backup gun openly kinda defeat the purpose? As for Oly, I noticed that those collapsable batons weigh a ton, like 3-4 pounds for every one I've seen. Don't know if many cops still carry plain ol' nighsticks, but they seem pretty nice. I got one a while ago for a cop halloween costume; really relieves anger to beat on the couch with it for a while. [}:D] |
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i saw that on cops in buffalo once too. I carry my backup on my vest.
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26" ASP expandable 19 oz
26" Winchester-Wilmoth 27.2 oz No idea on wood weight, heavy batons are only a pain until you use a light baton, and it doesn't get the job done. |
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Quoted: I am a Narc.... depending on situation and day 1911 45 or S&W 38 Cheap Folding Knife or Boot Knife Sorry..not very exciting, but I really can't carry very much. View Quote Ditto on the narc thing. Where/how do you carry the 1911? I am issued a Sig Sauer P226, but on duty (undercover) I carry a Glock 27 in a High Noon IWB holster down the front of my pants, and often times an additional NAA Guardian .32 in right (strong side) pants pocket. Since my specific role allows (more like requires due to the circumstances) me to where loose and baggy jeans, big untucked shirts and the like, the pocket and IWB carry style is very easy to pull off. I also carry a CRKT Crawford/Kasper clipped into one of my pockets. Cloak- |
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Quoted: 26" ASP expandable 19 oz 26" Winchester-Wilmoth 27.2 oz No idea on wood weight, heavy batons are only a pain until you use a light baton, and it doesn't get the job done. View Quote Amen to that. Our riot batons are 48 inches of 1-1/2 thick hickory and when you get smacked with one you know it. The last time I did baton training, the poor fool who got to wear the padded suit couldn't get out of bed the next day.[stick][:D] |
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Double mag pouch with two mags, keys, cell-phone, Glock 22, ASP, two sets of handcuffs, radio, baton ring and flashlight ring, and wooden baton. The ASP is good for knocking on doors and as a field-expedient back-scratcher. Cold Steel Voyager clipped to the shockplate pocket on my vest.
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Hey Mace what you probably observed in the crossdraw holster wasn't a zero but a taser/pistol. Although we can't carry them yet, a few of the local p.d.'s here carry the taser in the same fashion as you described.
Body Armor - safariland Gun Belt: in order(left from buckle) Two mags - 15 rds each spray - Freeze +p Radio - GE mpd 16 Gerber tool [marines] sm. stream light S&W hand cuffs glove pouch S&W hand cuffs Glock 22 w/ night sights trousers left rear pocket- note book right front pocket- (good folder) crkt m16 shirt left breast pocket- micro cassette recorder, pen right breast pocket- miranda card/ pager on stun (seriously considering back up gun!) car/ trunk too much trash to list In grab bag rem. 870 - 50 extra rounds colt ar15a3 - 200 extra extra vest med. kit zip cuffs |
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Duty Belt:
Glock 22C in safariland level II holster (Left-handed) 2-magazines plus one mag in gun of 180 gold dot hollow point 26 inch asp capstun OC two sets of hinged handcuffs mag-lite holder Stinger flashlight in case Motorla GP300 radio Smith & Wesson first responder knife/window punch pair of blk leather hatch gloves in side pocket Glock 27 in backup holster with 9 round magazine with pearce +1 finger groove on it in Bianchi Triad holster |
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Okay,
No firearms on my kit. But here's what gods gift to paramedicine is carrying around From top to bottom. left chest pocket, cell phone, two pens en a pupil light. Right chest pocket, two alufoil hypothermia blankets. Personal cell phone. Left hip pocket.....loadsa latex gloves and a stethoscope ( anybody carrying around one around his neck deserves to get strangled by it) Right hip pocket...protocol book Belt kit.....carrier for motorola handheld radio&motorola handheld Gerber multitool Surefire 6p handheld light(sure works better than them macchargers). Carrying all my shit in a 15 kg case, holding IV stuff, meds and trauma kit. With a Physio Control Lifepack 12 slung around the shoulder. Not too mention a small two liter O2 bottle. T Thank god my partner volunteers to carry the backboard with stuff..[;)] |
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