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Posted: 2/15/2006 2:06:34 PM EDT
These were sent to me today from one of my old Fugitive Task Force partners without much explaination. What little story that I have is that the Officer was attempting the arrest of a suspect with a knife and it didn't go well. When I get the story I will update the info.

In the mean time the pics speak for themselves.......be careful and watch the hands!





Link Posted: 2/15/2006 2:09:55 PM EDT
OMG. I hope the suspect, died.

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Link Posted: 2/15/2006 2:10:38 PM EDT
Holy fucking shit
Link Posted: 2/15/2006 2:11:14 PM EDT
WOW. Holy Crap! I'm glad he lived through it, and hopefully didn't suffer any nerve damage or otehr adverse problems. I also hope the b/g was taken down in a rather "friendly" manner.
Link Posted: 2/15/2006 2:13:00 PM EDT
Damn, those are some deep nasty wounds. B/G Better have gotten killed for that, wow. Hope he is okay.
Link Posted: 2/15/2006 2:15:09 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/15/2006 2:19:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/15/2006 2:19:57 PM EDT by AZ-K9]
THose pics are also RUMORED to me from a correctional facility and the vic looks more consistent with an inmate than anything else. Esepcially with the white ass state issue looking boxers. THe background also looks strangely corrections. Saw the pics over on SigForum yesterday.
Link Posted: 2/15/2006 2:22:43 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 1GUNRUNNER:
No vest I take it?

Probably not, but a good sharp knive can do some real damage to kevlar .
Link Posted: 2/15/2006 2:23:55 PM EDT
Good thing the guy was slashing and not stabbing!
Link Posted: 2/15/2006 4:49:47 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Dusty_C:

Originally Posted By 1GUNRUNNER:
No vest I take it?

Probably not, but a good sharp knive can do some real damage to kevlar .



In a stabbing motion, I understand that most body armor will be defeated, but slashing? Seems like it would take a lot more to make it through to skin...
Link Posted: 2/15/2006 4:59:09 PM EDT
OOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!


bet that hurts like a beotch
Link Posted: 2/15/2006 5:39:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/15/2006 5:40:27 PM EDT by OKLAHOMA_LAWMAN]
DAMN!!!! never bring a knife to gun fight.
Link Posted: 2/15/2006 5:45:02 PM EDT
Holycrap that looks painful
Link Posted: 2/15/2006 6:01:06 PM EDT

Originally Posted By twonami:
Holycrap that looks painful



The stomach one looks like it was actually surgically cut to inspect the chest...
Link Posted: 2/15/2006 6:09:01 PM EDT

Originally Posted By OKLAHOMA_LAWMAN:
hock.gif DAMN!!!! never bring a knife to gun fight.


Definently
Link Posted: 2/15/2006 7:46:43 PM EDT
Oh my!!! Did the bad guy get some high speed lead poisoning? Please update us when you get more info on this.
Link Posted: 2/15/2006 8:22:57 PM EDT
My Sgt. e-mailed those to us today. That was the first thing I looked at the beginning of shift.

Should show leo's that knifes can kill just like guns. Dont take any situation for granite, cuz you never know.

BE SAFE
Link Posted: 2/15/2006 8:38:33 PM EDT
Regardless of who it is with the wounds it does show one thing vividly clear, getting cut with a blade sucks. I'm much more concerned with an edged weapon up close than a firearm.

If it is an LEO he clearly wasn't wearing a vest, It would take one hell of a blade to slash through multiple layers of ballistic material. Cerain blade types can puncture vests failry well but slashing, probably not.

If it's an inmate, tax saving opportunity missed.
Link Posted: 2/15/2006 8:44:28 PM EDT
That's a stabbing? The blade must have been frickin wide as all hell.
Man... he must have been in a bad situation to take that many cuts. That's not something you can slap a band-aid on and call it a day.
Link Posted: 2/15/2006 9:04:59 PM EDT
We got those emailed to us about 2 days ago. The wounds look like typical slash wounds. You can see where the blade really bit into the victim and then get smaller as the knife-user hits his max reach with the blade. Typical stab wounds look nothing like that.

Those oictures are proof how much damage can be brought with a blade. That's one of the reason I always carry two knives on me at work. I once had a supervisor ask me why I carried two. My simple resaponse was "So I can cut a motherfucker if I have to"
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 3:01:45 AM EDT
Saved for the next "why did the EVIL JBT's shoot him, he only had a knife" bashing threads.
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 4:08:39 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 1GUNRUNNER:
No vest I take it?



thats what I was gonna say?!

Glad he's ok!
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 6:59:57 AM EDT
Yep, got these in an email yesterday. No more info to add, hope he's alright.

Carry on.
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 8:18:23 AM EDT
damm. just damm
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 8:21:57 AM EDT
Guess nobody told him what that thing attached to his hip was for...
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 8:59:39 AM EDT
Hope the suspect was drawn and quartered for that

hope the officer's wounds heal quickly and not too much scaring. I'm sure he learned a valuable lesson from that incident.
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 9:04:19 AM EDT
damn,

i bet the officer is pissed about the runined tat.

Link Posted: 2/16/2006 9:05:29 AM EDT
I don't know about all this talk about a knife doing serious damage to kevlar.

I haven't experimented much with the IBA, but Kevlar I cut at a job shop at my old job, we tried using a knife to cut a little strip and it bent over the serrated tips and didn't even scratch the kevlar.
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 9:26:06 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Mead:
I don't know about all this talk about a knife doing serious damage to kevlar.

I haven't experimented much with the IBA, but Kevlar I cut at a job shop at my old job, we tried using a knife to cut a little strip and it bent over the serrated tips and didn't even scratch the kevlar.



Huh, cause they go right through our IIIA vests whether slashing or stabbing. I'll have to ask what type of knife we used to test this.
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 9:27:38 AM EDT
just a scratch
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 10:37:50 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Hokie:
just a scratch



Link Posted: 2/16/2006 1:58:14 PM EDT
wow
Link Posted: 2/16/2006 5:02:15 PM EDT
tag for later- hope the officer is ok- please update
Link Posted: 2/17/2006 7:50:52 AM EDT
Any updates? I have heard the guy's a fed, or he's an inmate from a state pen, and everything in between, just waiting for the definitive clarification.
Link Posted: 2/17/2006 8:02:08 AM EDT
I'm betting this guy is an inmate -- look at the jailhouse tat running from his right shoulder down.
Link Posted: 2/17/2006 8:06:15 AM EDT
I was thinking that too, the tattoo makes me think correctional facility. Would explaun why this guy wasn't wearing a vest, which he clearly wasn't.
Link Posted: 2/17/2006 8:11:46 AM EDT

Originally Posted By TxLawDog:
These were sent to me today from one of my old Fugitive Task Force partners without much explaination. What little story that I have is that the Officer was attempting the arrest of a suspect with a knife and it didn't go well. When I get the story I will update the info.

In the mean time the pics speak for themselves.......be careful and watch the hands!



That isn't a cop. It is some guy who got cut up in a ruckus. Do some research.
Link Posted: 2/17/2006 11:23:45 AM EDT

Originally Posted By g136653:

Originally Posted By TxLawDog:
These were sent to me today from one of my old Fugitive Task Force partners without much explaination. What little story that I have is that the Officer was attempting the arrest of a suspect with a knife and it didn't go well. When I get the story I will update the info.

In the mean time the pics speak for themselves.......be careful and watch the hands!



That isn't a cop. It is some guy who got cut up in a ruckus. Do some research.




Don't stop there, if you have the story then share it with us as we all want to know. The Agent that sent me this hasn't contacted me back yet.
Link Posted: 2/17/2006 1:41:46 PM EDT

Originally Posted By AZ-K9:
THose pics are also RUMORED to me from a correctional facility and the vic looks more consistent with an inmate than anything else. Esepcially with the white ass state issue looking boxers. THe background also looks strangely corrections. Saw the pics over on SigForum yesterday.



The big ass pitt bull tat would support that theory.
Link Posted: 2/18/2006 8:43:18 AM EDT

Originally Posted By g136653:

Originally Posted By TxLawDog:
These were sent to me today from one of my old Fugitive Task Force partners without much explaination. What little story that I have is that the Officer was attempting the arrest of a suspect with a knife and it didn't go well. When I get the story I will update the info.

In the mean time the pics speak for themselves.......be careful and watch the hands!



That isn't a cop. It is some guy who got cut up in a ruckus. Do some research.



Dude, if you know, please share with the rest of us. I know we'd like to get the definitive answer.
Link Posted: 2/18/2006 9:01:39 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/18/2006 9:02:12 AM EDT by warlord]
That is very gruesome, I hope the guy has recovered okay.


Originally Posted By Mead:
I don't know about all this talk about a knife doing serious damage to kevlar.

I haven't experimented much with the IBA, but Kevlar I cut at a job shop at my old job, we tried using a knife to cut a little strip and it bent over the serrated tips and didn't even scratch the kevlar.


I had a single layer of kevlar given to me as a sample, and I can cut that stuff with my kids kindergarden scissors, and I could poke throught it with my Benchmade Stryker 910 with zero effort.
Link Posted: 2/22/2006 9:23:27 PM EDT

The Agent that sent me this hasn't contacted me back yet.


I had the original email from "the agent" who originated this from yet another, who only made reference to the awareness of the dangers of knives and nothing else. The agent then made no reference to any story details, nor could he find them, wanted no one to call him because he had no details, and made no reference to it be an LEO in any way. Got rumored as it circulated...go figure.

I think it is safe to assume it is an inmate. We all get the picture and it makes for some good training.
Link Posted: 2/22/2006 10:24:37 PM EDT
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