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Posted: 3/5/2002 1:39:22 AM EDT
As you may or maynot know. Dell computers supports Sara Brady's organization. Remember how long us RKBA supporters have sat sliently by over the decades and watch our rights erode away. Well it's time to take a stand before we lose everything. Large corporations listens to their bottom line and if enough people talk, they will be heard. Here is a copy of the email I sent them. [purple] To who it may concern, I would like to say that this started as a simple idea to email the powers that may be about Dell's support of Handguns Control, Inc. or as they are now known as, the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence. What angered me more was the fact that I had searched your website and called your 800 number, only to spend a good 7-10 minutes navigating the menu system to reach a live person. That technical support person had no access to any email addresses. Suffice to say, this is the only email address other then the webmasters' throughout your site. A company as high-tech as Dell should have email contacts listed. This will tell you that I just recently purchased a computer from you... Dell Customer Number is: xxxxxxxx Dell Order Number is: 758xxxxxx I believe that the Bill of Rights in our Constitution is what makes us uniquely American. Any organization that tries to chip away at our rights is in my eyes, un-American and treasonous . Ever since Sara Brady's husband was shot, her sole mission in life is to take away the rights of every American citizen to bear arms. Don't take me wrong, while I do feel bad that her husband was shot, I wouldn't have taken it out on everyone in this country. Their next "un-American" act is their recent support of the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act, or Shays-Meehan Bill which attacks the right of free speech. Had I know about your support for this organization, I would have never made this purchase. Since, the purchase as been completed, there is nothing I can do about it, except that I will NEVER buy any more Dell products and I will tell my friends about your position. I personally found out about your position from several internet postings. Thank you for your time, ME [/purple]
Link Posted: 3/5/2002 2:41:11 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/5/2002 2:43:36 AM EDT by lpspinner]
Interesting...It's 3am and I got a reply back. They must have filters set up to kick out this lenghty auto-reply. I've seen this same letter posted elsewhere.... [purple] From: Michael@Dell.com To: xxxx@xxxxxxxxx.net Subject: RE: Dissatisfaction with Dell's Policy Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 05:03:34 -0600 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) [url]http://www.wmsa.net/wp_030102.htm[/url] Dear Valued Customers and Friends: We appreciate the opportunity to clarify the facts regarding a customer issue reported in the media and Dell's position on political or social issues that many of you care deeply about. Regarding Handgun Rights/Handgun Control.... Dell is a publicly-traded, customer-focused company with customers, shareholders and employees on both sides of many public, social and political issues. Our place is to serve our customers rather than to endorse or support one position over another in public debates outside the scope of our industry. We do not discriminate against any business, regardless of the products or services they sell, nor do we discriminate against individual customers. We do, however, respect the right of any organization or individual to have their own point of view. We follow all laws, rules and regulations. Regarding allegations that Dell supports Handgun Control organizations through the Dell Affiliates program... Dell as a company remains neutral on handgun rights and handgun control. Dell customers can support causes and organizations, if they choose, through Dell's affiliates program and charitable websites such as igive.com and progressivefunds.com. These sites feature links to Dell's website. Dell's affiliates program provides a way for customers to support the cause or organization of their choice through their Dell purchases. Affiliate participants, such as igive.com and progressivefunds.com, include organizations and causes on different sides of nearly every social issue. Some of the organizations participating through Dell affiliates such as igive.com and progressivefunds.com., promote handgun rights, others promote handgun control. Handgun Control Inc. (HCI) has been reported as one organization that participates in this program. Others including The Gun Owners Foundation and the Michigan Coalition for Responsible Gun Owners Foundation, Inc. also participate through Dell affiliate igive.com. [/purple]
Link Posted: 3/5/2002 2:42:01 AM EDT
[purple] The only organizations prohibited from participating in Dell's affiliates program are those that promote sexually explicit material; promote violence; promote discrimination based on race, sex, religion, nationality, disability, sexual orientation or age; or promote illegal activities. Regarding the assertion that Dell cancelled Mr. Jack Weigand's order for a notebook computer because of his firearm association... We made a mistake. Mr. Weigand's order was improperly cancelled because we did not gather the additional information required by U.S. law to process his order. Dell flagged Mr. Weigand's order (initiated under his company name Weigand's Combat Firearms) for additional follow-up (and then we failed to do so) because of the word "combat" in his company name. This internal control is in place to ensure that a domestic purchase is not redirected to an end user for a prohibited use (such as the creation and development of weapons of mass destruction) or to a country that has been restricted from receiving U.S. technology exports (such as Libya, Syria, Iran and Iraq). This due diligence is required by U.S. law. We also review orders for words such as "nuclear," "missile," and "plutonium." Dell's process excludes reviews for "guns" or "firearms." The mistake was ours because we failed to follow our process. We failed to call Mr. Weigand for information that would have satisfied legal requirements and ultimately would have resulted in completion of Mr. Weigand's transaction. We have apologized for this mistake directly to Mr. Weigand. We have tried to make it right with our customer by giving him a free computer for his trouble and inconvenience. Dell has many customers and employees who are handgun owners and enthusiasts. We know that gun owners and advocates, such as Mr. Weigand, are law abiding Americans, and as such, can understand and appreciate our efforts to comply with American export laws, while serving all customers. We have heard from many of you over the last few days, and we appreciate the opportunity to speak with you directly about these issues. Your relationships with us, and your feedback about our products and services are crucial to our success. Sincerely, Tom Green Senior Vice President, Law and Administration Dell Computer Corporation [/purple]
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