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Posted: 6/14/2002 9:34:58 AM EDT
I am about to start building a post ban AR-15 pistol that has a fixed magazine. My question is can I register a lower receiver that was sold to me as a rifle receiver (but never assembled into a rifle) or do I have to buy a new receiver as a pistol. If I can register it as a pistol receiver what do I have to fill out.

Thanks
Chris Mills
Link Posted: 6/14/2002 4:02:23 PM EDT
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Unless there's handgun registration in your state (might just be in Mass....), then no registration is required for a home-built/assembled firearm.

You cannot build a pistol from a receiver if it's ever had a stock attached.  If you bought it as a stripped lower directly from the factory, that'd be OK.

If the lower was sold to you on the dealer's books as a "rifle", I'd personally play it safe and buy another stripped lower, direct from the mfg if possible, on which to build a pistol.

Since there's no federal requirement to "register" a firearm, you'll have to check with Mass. state police about any required registrations there, and the procedures to do so if registration is required.
Link Posted: 6/15/2002 2:52:43 AM EDT
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I am about to start building a post ban AR-15 pistol that has a fixed magazine. My question is can I register a lower receiver that was sold to me as a rifle receiver (but never assembled into a rifle) or do I have to buy a new receiver as a pistol. If I can register it as a pistol receiver what do I have to fill out.
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I have my doubts that you will be allowed to make an AR15 pistol in MA...  State rules created by the AG has some nasty regulations on pistols.

Sincerely,
Mark Buda
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Link Posted: 6/15/2002 6:57:39 AM EDT
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Thanks Mark and Circuits for the info. The rules that the AG created only deal with selling pistols not possession or building. I will reread them again but I am preaty sure that is how they read.

Thanks again
Chris Mills
Link Posted: 6/16/2002 2:05:41 PM EDT
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I am about to start building a post ban AR-15 pistol that has a fixed magazine. My question is can I register a lower receiver that was sold to me as a rifle receiver (but never assembled into a rifle) or do I have to buy a new receiver as a pistol.
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That's a good question as I've been wondering the same thing. Because of the outlandish AG and EOPS regs, I've been thinking about buying one of the 80% M-1911 frames from the Tannery Shop. The AR-15 pistol idea also crossed my mind.
If the receiver was never assembled into a rifle (was it ever registered in MA to begin with?) I would *think* you could reconfigure it any way you like (other than pre-ban) without any hassles... then again, this is Mass we're talking about and I'm not a lawyer.

As far as your subsequent comment regarding the possession/sale restrictions as defined by the AG's and EOPS regs, that's how I understand it also (hence the "roll my own" approach for the M-1911)[:D]

You might want to contact [URL=http://www.goal.org]GOAL[/URL] or the [URL=http://www.state.ma.us/chsb/frb.html] FRB[/URL] for further clarification.


Just one question myself? Why the fixed magazine? Did the bastards deny you a Class A LTC? Or is it the 50 oz limitation mentioned elsewhere in this thread?

If I can register it as a pistol receiver what do I have to fill out.
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FA-10. Your local PD should have them.
Link Posted: 6/16/2002 3:50:53 PM EDT
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JasonF - the 50oz limitation is one of the evil features for an 'assault pistol', but only applies to semi auto pistols which can take a detachable magazine.  Same thing for handguards, mag outside the pistol grip, threaded barrel for a flash suppressor or sound suppressor, or the flash suppressor/sound suppressor itself.

By going fixed mag, the pistol can have basically anything that it's legal to have on a pistol (no buttstock, of course).
Link Posted: 6/20/2002 11:51:42 AM EDT
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Linked from the "Build it Yourself" forum for more knowledgeable input.


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