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Posted: 3/11/2002 11:05:24 AM EDT
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He said the man hit a police car with the machete and officers jumped out. "They were telling him to put it down, put it down," Holley said. "It seemed like they just unloaded their guns on him."
Rybak said Sunday that he wants to find out what procedures police follow in dealing with mentally ill suspects. More than 40 Minneapolis officers have been trained to respond to situations involving people with mental illnesses. They make up the city's Crisis Intervention Team, created last year after police shootings of three mentally ill people in 1999 and 2000. Crisis team members, who have undergone about 40 hours of training, carry Taser guns as a nonlethal way to defuse a situation when police feel threatened. On Sunday, two team members attempted to subdue the man with stun guns before he was shot. Holley said they used the stun guns on him without effect. "He fell and then he just got up," he said. Olson said the officers involved will be placed on a three-day paid administrative leave while an investigation is underway. "On the surface, I've seen nothing that indicated officers didn't follow the procedure," the police chief said. "Our plans went right down the line -- by the book in fact. . . . Nothing was amiss." Investigators said it's too early to tell how much of a role language barriers might have played in the incident. Also unclear is the severity of the man's mental illness. "Anybody who is brandishing a machete and a crowbar in a public area needs to be taken seriously," said Roseann Campagnoli of the Hennepin County Sheriff's Office, which is handling the investigation. |
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Posted: 3/11/2002 11:06:46 AM EDT
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Mace for a knife fight?
I don't think so. Sounds like he wasn't cured. He is now. |
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Posted: 3/11/2002 11:06:49 AM EDT
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'A very good guy'
Friends and acquaintances said the man was known in the Cedar-Riverside area as someone who began having mental problems several months ago. They said he often was seen walking in the neighborhood. "This guy was a very good guy," said Mohamed Ahmed, a friend and neighbor who saw the man about an hour before the shooting. "He just became sick. You can't be shot because you are sick. That is not the American way." Rahma Ali, who knew the man, said she followed him the entire way from Cedar-Riverside on Sunday. She said she first saw him when they were in an elevator in the apartment building where he lived. "He wasn't looking for anyone to cut," she said. Nevertheless, she tried to get him to drop the machete because she said it looked "so tall and so dangerous." She said that during the walk to the Chicago-Franklin intersection, the man did not seem to acknowledge those around him. "He just kept saying, 'Allahu akbar, Allahu akbar,' over and over again," she said. She and others at the scene translated that to mean "God is great." Ali said that when police surrounded the man, he raised the machete and repeated the phrase once more before police shot him. Olson said he doesn't blame people for being upset. "We have a lot of citizens who are very concerned, as right they should be," he said. "I would hope they hold back and wait until they find out what the truth is." Jeilani, the victim's brother, said he plans to consult with a lawyer and may press charges. -- Heron Marquez Estrada is at [email protected] . Kavita Kumar is at [email protected]. |
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Posted: 3/11/2002 11:09:46 AM EDT
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Nothing like inviting a little bit of Mogadishu into your country!
Won't be long now before we have a whole lot of Mogadishu in this country! Maybe we can then all move to Somalia, since the native Somalians appear quite done with it! Eric The(Don'tLikeOurWays?ThenWhereDoWeSendYourLuggage?)Hun[>]:)] |
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Posted: 3/11/2002 11:31:48 AM EDT
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one less skinny? maybe we should send the minneapolis pd over to finish these boys up.
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Posted: 3/11/2002 11:35:30 AM EDT
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Quoted: one less skinny? maybe we should send the minneapolis pd over to finish these boys up. blackhawk down 2, the sequel? [NI] |
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Posted: 3/11/2002 12:23:31 PM EDT
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somali, did you say somali.....[50]
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Posted: 3/11/2002 12:37:40 PM EDT
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Maybe I should sent the dept a Taser demo tape. They may be in the mood to buy some shortly.
[url]www.airtaser.com[/url] |
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Posted: 3/11/2002 12:43:09 PM EDT
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"Investigators said it's too early to tell how much of a role language barriers might have played in the incident."
i don't know, seems if i just whacked a cop car with a machete and someone jumped out of the car with a gun and shouted something at me I didn’t understand I would drop the machete. How do you say “drop the knife Mother #ucker” in skinny? |
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Posted: 3/11/2002 3:34:42 PM EDT
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I just think it's funny how people can use the reasoning he was mentally ill and think that they can get off with anything.
First off the PD officers used the training that they where taught by using the Stun gun. Next the Crazy guy know how the cops where. Because as witnesses Rahma Ali said "He wasn't looking for anyone to cut," Then Dendell Holley said "Man hit a police car with the machete and officers jumped out. "They were telling him to put it down, put it down," Well hell to me he was looking to hurt someone and that someone was PD officers. If mentally ill people can take responsibility for there own actions than someone else must be it this guys wife or brother all of then new he was not well and needed help but did any of them take him in? No! Just more people just trying to pass the blame on to someone else and make it a racial issue now. |
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Posted: 3/11/2002 3:57:49 PM EDT
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Quoted: "This guy was a very good guy," said [red]Mohamed Ahmed[/red], a friend and neighbor who saw the man about an hour before the shooting. "He just became sick. You can't be shot because you are sick. That is not the American way." Hey Mohamed, nobody needs your silly skinny ass to tell us about the American way, understand? Rahma Ali, who knew the man, said she followed him the entire way from Cedar-Riverside on Sunday. She said she first saw him when they were in an elevator in the apartment building where he lived. "He wasn't looking for anyone to cut," she said. Nevertheless, she tried to get him to drop the machete because she said it looked "so tall and so dangerous." I'm glad Ms. Skinny Ali had the skinny on whether or not he was planning to cut anyone or bash anyone. The cops probably didn't have their secret skinny decoder rings on, I'll bet. She said that during the walk to the Chicago-Franklin intersection, the man did not seem to acknowledge those around him. If he wouldn't acknowledge anyone around him, how the faaq did she know "he wasn't looking for anyone to cut?" "He just kept saying, 'Allahu akbar, Allahu akbar,' over and over again," she said. She and others at the scene translated that to mean "God is great." [size=5][b]OH! What a relief![/b][/size=5] He was just saying "God is great" in Arabic. Well, people who say "Allahu Akbar" can be trusted not to hurt anyone, right? I mean, only people with the best of intentions would say such a thing, right? I mean, people wouldn't fly a plane into a building or drive a truckbomb into a building saying "Allahu akbar," would they? [size=5][b]OF COURSE NOT![/b][/size=5] Silly policemen! |
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Posted: 3/15/2002 4:57:51 AM EDT
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[b]AH... Yes...[/b]
I was VERY glad to hear no police officers were hurt in this, I didn't see any hurt, but I wasn't sure. I was THERE about the time it happened. Thank you for posting this FedGunner. [:D] When they say that this man lived in the Cedar/Riverside neighborhood, they meant he lived in the [size=6][b]CRACK STACKS![/b][size=1] [img]http://www.tc.umn.edu/~armament/img/pics/personal/CedarRiverside.JPG[/img] I was going to the liquor store that day to buy a bottle of wine for a gift to my parents for their anniversary which is this weekend. Well, I leave, and walk out of the liquor store with a damn fine bottle of wine (my favorite): Ridge - Lytton Springs 1998 [url][/url] All of a sudden I hear a "POP POP POP POP POP POP POP POP POP." The distinct sound of 9mm & the louder .40 caliber. I ducked behind the concrete corner of the building, until the shooting stopped. I didn't see anything in the immediate vicinity, so I started walking home (right near downtown Minneapolis, just 2 blocks north of Cedar/Riverside Ghetto, in the borderlands of the 7-Corners Ghetto & the Cedar/Riverside), after walking about 1-2 blocks I saw squad cars everywhere, and police officers all standing around a dead arab guy laying in a pool of blood. There were many other somali/arab women wailing cries in high pitched voices speaking arabic... I kept right on walking... A day later I read about it in the newspaper, and was glad to hear MPLS PD finally did something to help the community. The 2000 (I think) census shows that in the Cedar Riverside neighborhood ALONE is home to over 15,000 Somali people who fled Somalia during the 1990's. These are the same people I wrote here about on Sept 11, many were CELEBRATING and laughing while watching Televisions in shop windows... According to the census results, Minneapolis is the third largest home to those who fled from somalia in the 1990's, #1 is France, #2 is (another American City), #3 is Minneapolis MN IIRC. Just thought I'd chime in my commentary of how this guy had more than a few holes in him... [kill] -iNuhBaDNayburhoodfullofcrimenearthecrackstacks[rolleyes] |
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Posted: 3/15/2002 5:35:43 AM EDT
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"I see this as an overutilization of police power. This is police brutality," said Amal Yusuf, executive director of the Somalian Women's Association, who was driving near the site when the shooting occurred. "It was a long knife that he was holding in his hand," she said. "They could have used Mace." Gee, Ms. Yusuf, you could have gotten out of your car and Maced him yourself. |
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Posted: 3/15/2002 6:03:06 AM EDT
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I'm conducting an experiment now. My hypothesis is that the body of a Black person (ESPECIALLY an African-native) shot by LEOs emits some form of alert pheromone that acts as a powerful attractant to the Jesse Jackasses and Al "Harpoon me now" Sharptons while the body of a White man shot by LEOs releases a different pheromone that actually acts as a repellant for them. Now, we have the Maryland man shot in the face by LEOs and now the Somali man also shot by LEOs. Which one will Jesse and Al fly towards? |
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