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Posted: 3/6/2002 6:23:46 PM EDT
next week for the first time with the old lady . Any cool places to see and visit , and does anyone know any really good gun stores to see ? By the way we are not big gamblers Thanks
Link Posted: 3/6/2002 6:29:25 PM EDT
monte carlo casino - Lance Burton magic show. go! $50 vs Sigfreid/roy $120
Link Posted: 3/6/2002 6:29:54 PM EDT
Being an adrenaline junky, I went on every roller coaster I could find. The Big Shot, on top of the Stratosphere, is an experience you will never forget. Just walk around, get a map, and have fun. I always do better when we don't set any time limits, Vegas never closes, so have fun around the clock!
Link Posted: 3/6/2002 6:48:37 PM EDT
Any trip to Vegas should include a visit to Front Sight. Check if they are having their free (yes, free) one day submachine gun class when you are there. [url]http://www.frontsight.com[/url]
Link Posted: 3/6/2002 7:02:50 PM EDT
Having been twice last year, once with the "old lady" and once without and going back in May, I would suggest just going around looking at the inside of the hotels on the strip. Most definately if you think you might be back sometime within a year or so. You will simply not believe the hotels and the way they are built. If your old lady is not into guns she will want to see all that stuff anyway and it is best to get it out of her system. Another good non-gun activity is Red Rock Canyon it is a 13 mile road tour through some very unique rock formations. There are several stops where you can hike. You could easily turn Red Rock into a day trip. Just be prepared to hike in hot sun in the desert. Another good day trip (or half day if you do not screw around) is Hoover Dam. Call the day before and reserve the Hard Hat tour. Very cool. Due to OSHA regs the Hoover Dam could not be built today and be cost effective. If she is into guns then by all means head out to front sight!! Rat a tat tat! -elliott
Link Posted: 3/6/2002 7:37:16 PM EDT
Like others have said, go to the major Places on the strip. Catch the Belagio Water Show around dark, cool lights and music. See the art at the Belagio too. Mandalay Bay is good, lots of stuff to see on the main strip without gambling your $$$ away. I try to go once a year and hope to go in Sept. Have fun.
Link Posted: 3/6/2002 8:24:59 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Maddog50: Any trip to Vegas should include a visit to Front Sight. Check if they are having their free (yes, free) one day submachine gun class when you are there. [url]http://www.frontsight.com[/url]
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Keep in mind, it's about an hour's drive from the LV Strip, maybe more. Unless you go on a tour bus (they sell tourist "classes" during the week, I think), you'll have to rent a car. Disclaimer: it's been a long time since I went there; any or all of this may have changed (especially the Holy Cow brewpub's free beer policy). Other places to see: the M&M shop, south end of the Strip (near the MGM). The pirate show outside the Treasure Island. The volcano show outside the Mirage (after dark). The cocktail waitress shows at the Venetian (Cameltoes On Parade), Rio (Butt Floss), and Orleans (Butt Floss II). The hotties show at the Hard Rock, on Friday and Saturday nights. Note: lots of "I'm a hot rich young (and stupid) stud from L.A." attitude there. For gambling, if you're into poker, the Horseshoe (downtown) is legendary. The Mirage poker room is the best on the Strip, and the Orleans poker room seemed to be where the local sharks were going last time I heard (lower rakes). For blackjack, the whole town has gone to hell. But if you're out giving money away, the downtown casinos usually have slightly better games since they're a lot more desperate for customers. Lady Luck used to have a decent single-deck game during some hours of the day. If for some reason of insanity (or if you're one of the three people on the planet who can time a wheel) you actually believe in playing roulette, the Monte Carlo has single-zero wheels (or did last time I heard), which cuts the house edge considerably. The Holy Cow brewpub, north end of Strip (VERY dangerous at night) will give you a free beer if you get a roll of quarters from them. Don't bother playing the slots there with those quarters, since their machines have some of the worst payoffs around.
Link Posted: 3/6/2002 8:28:51 PM EDT
Originally Posted By WillysWagon: Catch the Belagio Water Show around dark, cool lights and music.
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Bellagio has a restaurant with a nice view of the show. It used to be called Olives, but they may have changed it. Be aware that only some of the tables (the ones by the front windows, of course) have the view -- reserve one well in advance if you want to sit there and watch while eating.
See the art at the Belagio too.
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I have heard that after the takeover by MGM/Grand, the Bellagio art collection was mostly sold off.
Link Posted: 3/6/2002 8:34:42 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/6/2002 8:39:06 PM EDT
I hope you like a lot of noise and crowds. Rent a car and drive to the Grand Canyon. Stunning.
Link Posted: 3/6/2002 8:40:30 PM EDT
I also give two thumbs up for The Big Shot. Goatboy may be of some assistance on the finer points of Vegas. The seafood at the Rio is always a hit. The queer’s zoo tour is not what it used to be since the boys split the sheets. If you will be there over the weekend go see Tommy Rocker's Friday or Saturday 10 PM show. 29 black, definitely 29 black! Oh and each and every time you take a taxi make sure to ask where the ugliest whores in town are; tell 'em Stokes sent ya. [:D]
Link Posted: 3/6/2002 8:50:44 PM EDT
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I’ll second the recommendation for visiting Hoover Dam. [url]www.hooverdam.usbr.gov[/url] Talk about a forbidding landscape! With luck, you might even see it as you fly into Vegas. It’s not quite an hour drive from Vegas. However, if the little lady doesn’t like heights, she may be an unhappy camper while there!
Link Posted: 3/6/2002 9:57:53 PM EDT
As far as gun shops, I guess it depends on what you mean by real good. If you are heading down to the Dam, Center Mass on Boulder Hwy has some nice, pricey toys. M16's MP5's etc. Machine Gun Kelly is right by the airport has good prices and a pretty good selection of stuff. Discount Firearms on Boulder Hwy in Henderson has good prices and rents machine guns and has an indoor range. Those are the ones I'm most familiar with but there are lots of others. The Dam as corny as it sounds is kind of cool to see especially this time of year when its not so hot. I did hear though that they had stopped doing the tours down into the dam. All the big new Hotels are cool to see. If your wife or yourself are into cats, go see the lions at the MGM. There are tons of very good restaurants so be prepared to diet when you get back.
Link Posted: 3/6/2002 10:53:44 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/7/2002 6:25:14 AM EDT
I heard there was a fireworks store north of Vegas. Anyone know where?
Link Posted: 3/7/2002 10:11:46 AM EDT
There is supposed to be a good late-night strip club, that the stipppers from the other clubs go to. I cannot remember the name but it starts up around 4-5AM. Wives and girlfriends are welcome there too. GunLvr
Link Posted: 3/7/2002 10:25:08 AM EDT
Don't I repeat don't wast your money on the two fruit cakes with white tigers. My wife said that she would have rather seen me get 10 lap dances for the same money rather than waste that kind of money again. Do see the Venitian theres lots of eye candy there artistic and otherwise.
Link Posted: 3/7/2002 2:39:18 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/7/2002 2:51:06 PM EDT
If you're into hiking, drive to either Redrock Canyon or the Valley of Fire, they are both unbelivably beautiful! VoF isn't much of a hiking place, but we absolutely loved it! Make sure to hit the Bellagio Gallery, very nice stuff there.
Link Posted: 3/7/2002 3:01:22 PM EDT
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I like to drive by Nellis AFB.
Link Posted: 3/7/2002 3:10:35 PM EDT
Hoover Dam was very, very cool. An engineering marvel!!!!
Link Posted: 3/7/2002 3:25:51 PM EDT
Don't forget NPA (Nevada Pistol Academy). A first class range and their SMG rentals are less than the others. If you liked "Star Tours" at Disneyland or Disneyworld, try the Star Trek Experience at the Hilton. It is easily twice as good.
Link Posted: 3/7/2002 4:35:48 PM EDT
Discount firearms out on Boulder Highway has MP5's and some other full auto gadgets... the people there are pretty good, and it's a nicer store than most. And for those of you that liked the Big Shot on the Stratosphere, they've proposed building a rollercoaster that runs vertically right down the side of the thing from just below the restaurant all the way to street level. Something like an 800 or so foot drop. I'm hoping they build it... you'll be able to hear tourists scream a mile away!
Link Posted: 3/7/2002 5:07:19 PM EDT
Give mama two hundred bucks in quarters and tell her to have fun at the slots.[:D] You go find a short thin beautiful hooker with big 'store bought" hooters [shock], negotiate a price and go have the best time of your life! You and mama will enjoy pleasent dreams long after the trip is over! [bounce]
Link Posted: 3/7/2002 5:54:22 PM EDT
First time, huh? I'll be back in a few months and I'm proud to say that I've lost track of how many times I've been out there. Maybe 10-12. Most recent was over New Years this year. [:)] 1. Look at everything. Take a good walk up and down the strip. Even if you don't step inside of a casino, you'll see nifty stuff. 2. You mention "old lady." Thus, I'm assuming you're not my age (23) and single. Thus, don't worry about the clubs. If you absolutely must see eye candy, head on down to the Hard Rock Hotel/Casino, the Luxor (my personal favorite), or to the Bellagio (the "Light" club kicks ass). 3. I'm partial to the comps at Paris/Bally's. Speaking of comps, if you pay for a drink you're doing something wrong. Play video poker at bars and the drinks are free. If you do it right, the drink will be $2.00- a buck in the machine and a buck tip. Incidentally, I've MADE money getting a Rusty Nail. 4. I don't know what you like playing, so I don't know what to recommend. 5. "The Gun Store" is a $8-$10 ride from the strip. You can rent submachineguns there for about $25.00 with two mags of ammo included. 6. During the day, you'll be fine. At night, don't go further than the Riviera on foot. The Stratosphere LOOKS close, but you have to walk through a not-so-great area to get there. Take a cab at night. 7. Good food can be found anywhere; bad places close QUICK. But, for great food, hit the California Pizza Kitchen (pizza and pasta) at the Mirage, PF Chang's (Oriental) in the Aladdin, the Caribe Cafe (American and anything else good) in the Mirage, and the Sidewalk Cafe (mushroom and barley soup) at Bally's. My personal favorite buffet is the one at the Mirage. AVOID the Dragon Noodle (Oriental) at Monte Carlo- My Dad and I got WICKED food poisioning there! 8. Monorails are free; slow but effective. The Strip Trolley is $2-$3 but hits more places. (Monorails only go between certain casinos.) 9. Safety is ONLY a worry at night in the area I described above. The casinos are some of the most secure places on the face of the planet. The public transport (#8, cabs, etc.) is VERY safe. Believe me, the Las Vegas police and the casino owners WANT you to be secure; tourism is that city's bread and butter. But, ALL bets are off on the north end and between the north end and downtown. Don't even think of walking beyond the Stratosphere during the DAY. Hope this helps! Mike
Link Posted: 3/7/2002 6:08:17 PM EDT
Well thanks for all the great information , I am really looking forward to seeing Vegas. I think we are going to have a great time !
Link Posted: 3/7/2002 9:05:49 PM EDT
Originally Posted By prebans: 6. During the day, you'll be fine. At night, don't go further than the Riviera on foot. The Stratosphere LOOKS close, but you have to walk through a not-so-great area to get there. Take a cab at night.
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Even the Riv is iffy. There have been two murders that I know of in the parking lot of the Stardust, which is across the street (and slightly south) of the Riv. Or maybe one of them was in the parking lot between the Stardust and the Circus-Circus; if you're curious, drop by the poker room at the Stardust around 1am or so, and look for the old guy whose wife works at the C-C, and ask him -- he hangs around and plays poker while waiting for her shift to end. (Tell him "JRC" said hi while you're at it. [:D])
7. ... AVOID the Dragon Noodle (Oriental) at Monte Carlo- My Dad and I got WICKED food poisioning there!
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Oh, also, don't eat ANYTHING at the Circus-Circus. Especially not the barfet, er, buffet. It is literally nauseating. [puke]
8. Monorails are free; slow but effective. The Strip Trolley is $2-$3 but hits more places.
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I strongly recommend never to take the "trolley". There is a bus that runs up and down the Strip, the 301. It is both slightly cheaper than the "trolley" and it stops on the street, thereby avoiding the ridiculous delay of "pull into the parking lot, drive up to the front door, wait a few minutes for more passengers, go to the exit, wait for the light to change, slowly move on". It's not really the trolley's fault; the city makes up all sorts of stupid laws so that it can't compete with the bus. But it's a lousy way to get around as a result.
9. Safety is ONLY a worry at night in the area I described above.
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BWAHAHAHAHA. Don't fool yourself. I've been tailed from the Bellagio all the way up to the Mirage at night. And I've been accosted during the day in the area around the Stratosphere/Holy Cow. And I've had aggressive punk panhandlers demand a handout while walking between Caesar's and the Mirage in mid-morning. The casinos and cops can't keep all of the human garbage out; when a city is based entirely on greed, there will always be plenty of dirtbags around.
Link Posted: 3/7/2002 9:13:27 PM EDT
I have 2 pieces of advice. 1st. Quit while you are ahead$$$ 2nd. See Sigfreid & Roy, Your wife will love/remember the white tigers and forget about the drunken idiot she married. I know mine did. Seriously, I saw the show 2 weeks ago and it was worth every penny.
Link Posted: 3/7/2002 9:32:14 PM EDT
Originally Posted By 71-Hour_Achmed: I've been tailed from the Bellagio all the way up to the Mirage at night. And I've been accosted during the day in the area around the Stratosphere/Holy Cow. And I've had aggressive punk panhandlers demand a handout while walking between Caesar's and the Mirage in mid-morning. The casinos and cops can't keep all of the human garbage out; when a city is based entirely on greed, there will always be plenty of dirtbags around.
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Where the hell are you hanging out at? I live here, been here for going on five years and have never been harassed at all on or around the strip. Granted the Strat is bordering the ghetto, but there's so many Metro bike cops around there! I've been to the Holy Cow several times and have never had an issue, not a single time, unless the greasy dudes handing out porn are what bothers you. Obviously with tourism, the city doesn't f*ck around with criminals on the strip... crime in Vegas is not what a lot of people make it out to be... no different than any other city. The only incident I've ever had happened miles from the strip, or any major casino for that matter. And I'm not the big, intimidating type that criminals avoid, hell if a criminal's gotta go after a male, I'm the kind he'd hit; 5'7" & 170 is not exactly a huge threat, you know? All I want is to put out there that crime in Vegas is not, IMHO, as bad as it's being portrayed.
Link Posted: 3/7/2002 9:39:10 PM EDT
I've gone to Vegas 3 times a year for the past 10 years and never run out of things to do. FREE Watch the pirate show in front of Treasure Island Watch the dancing fountains in front of Bellagio Ceasars Palace in the shopping forum- Talking statues Lion Habitat at MGM grand. RIDES Star Trek adventure at the Hilton Big Shot on top of Stratosphere, but dont waste your time on their roller coaster. Roller Coaster in the Sahara Roller coaster at NYNY.
Link Posted: 3/7/2002 9:42:48 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/7/2002 11:31:29 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Gunbert:
Originally Posted By 71-Hour_Achmed: I've been tailed from the Bellagio all the way up to the Mirage at night. And I've been accosted during the day in the area around the Stratosphere/Holy Cow. And I've had aggressive punk panhandlers demand a handout while walking between Caesar's and the Mirage in mid-morning. The casinos and cops can't keep all of the human garbage out; when a city is based entirely on greed, there will always be plenty of dirtbags around.
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Where the hell are you hanging out at? I live here, been here for going on five years and have never been harassed at all on or around the strip.
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Oh, here and there. Stardust still gives me free rooms; I have no idea why, but every year (admittedly during the slowest part of summer) they tell me they miss me. [spank] I usually wandered up and down the Strip from the Bellagio to the TI, then would take a cab to where the [i]real[/i] action was at the Western. ("That's a joke, son!") A stop at the GN, Binion's, and Lady Luck would round out the day, usually with a comp to the GN's buffet. The Bellagio tail was weird. I think they must have seen me playing inside and hoped to get a shot at my wallet. [stick] Then there were all the usual assortment of riffraff who just wanted to be my buddy and talk me out of some money -- Harrah's was particularly bad for that, for some reason. Ah, the good old bad old days. [rolleyes] The illegal aliens handing out hooker leaflets never bothered me. I think they go out of their way to be polite so that they won't get busted. I used to have a huge collection of the hooker business cards; I once got rid of an annoying girlfriend by leaving them out on my dinner table by "mistake". [:D]
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