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Posted: 2/28/2002 3:07:18 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/28/2002 3:13:48 PM EDT
A$$holes!
Link Posted: 2/28/2002 3:22:02 PM EDT
Uhmmm,... Don't New York City and California have some of the strictest gun laws now? Oh, ya. They do. Seems to be working doesn't it.
Link Posted: 2/28/2002 3:25:08 PM EDT
i almost thought i was reading from the onion. if the thinking weren't so flawed, it might actually be amusing. that is just sad. is his solution to the abundance of already illegal guns in california and new york really "lockers"?? i had to read it a few times and am simply stunned. ps. are their really gang shoot outs with automatic weapons in compton? and what is up with the bazooka comment? i didn't know i could even get one.
Link Posted: 2/28/2002 3:25:43 PM EDT
jeezus-tap-dancing-christ! These clueless assholes make me so freakin' mad I can't even speak! ARGHHHH!!!
Link Posted: 2/28/2002 3:27:32 PM EDT
...and what is up with the bazooka comment? i didn't know i could even get one.
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nothing like bringing up an obsolete weapon that NOBODY has to drive home the point that he is UTERLY clueless!
Link Posted: 2/28/2002 3:28:06 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/28/2002 3:34:25 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/28/2002 4:11:40 PM EDT
Will we ever be left alone? Not until all the leftists and statists are all killed off by muggers, rapists, robbers, and other full-blown wackaloons! DoubleFeed - let's not give these morons any ideas. It might be worthy to note that the short-barreled shotgun ban was upheld by a few important factors... 1) The lawyer for the United States was a WWI veteran - who lied about the weapons used. 2) Emerson was not effectively notified of the US appeal in circuit court - and therefore was neither present nor represented by counsel. 3) The common use of the short-barreled shotgun (or "trench gun" for its most common use) in military engagements was "outside of judicial notice" and was therefore not considered at appeal. Therefore, the SBS was not considered a common militia firearm. Short form - a liar and a know-nothing managed to uphold one of the longest-running and most blatantly repugnant firearms bans running in modern jurisprudence. I think the case went thru in 1936, as Emerson v. United States. Check it out, I know there's information online. FFZ
Link Posted: 2/28/2002 4:56:20 PM EDT
Originally Posted By FreeFireZone: Will we ever be left alone? Not until all the leftists and statists are all killed off by muggers, rapists, robbers, and other full-blown wackaloons! DoubleFeed - let's not give these morons any ideas. It might be worthy to note that the short-barreled shotgun ban was upheld by a few important factors... 1) The lawyer for the United States was a WWI veteran - who lied about the weapons used. 2) Emerson was not effectively notified of the US appeal in circuit court - and therefore was neither present nor represented by counsel. 3) The common use of the short-barreled shotgun (or "trench gun" for its most common use) in military engagements was "outside of judicial notice" and was therefore not considered at appeal. Therefore, the SBS was not considered a common militia firearm. Short form - a liar and a know-nothing managed to uphold one of the longest-running and most blatantly repugnant firearms bans running in modern jurisprudence. I think the case went thru in 1936, as Emerson v. United States. Check it out, I know there's information online. FFZ
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I take it you mean Miller, not Emerson. Emerson is the recent case that the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals ruled the 2nd protects an individual right. Miller is the 1930's case about the sawed off shotgun... Both cases are still advantageous to us!
Link Posted: 2/28/2002 5:22:05 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/28/2002 5:24:03 PM EDT
"Eddie has a B.A. in Political Science and is currently attending law school in California." Isnt their a way we can get Kalifornia to fall off into the ocean or something. Maybe if all the gun owners went accross the state line, jumped up and down 3 times then ran accross the border. Ya think that would do it??? If it did happen, it would make for some cool SCUBA diving. IceMan
Link Posted: 2/28/2002 5:24:48 PM EDT
Divide and Conquor. Why is it that the DEMS seem to think that the way to make America a better place is by pitting one group of people against another. It may not seem like they are playing class warfare on the surface, but think about it. Different groups operate under different levels of the law, with given privilages and punishments as they seem fit to dispense. This naturally leads to discontent and dischord. I think that this strategy is only leads to one end-an America that is worse off. [/rant]
Link Posted: 2/28/2002 5:36:39 PM EDT
I guess I'm one of the people they are scared of....I have an AK-47 and I'm a gang member (NRA, Lutheran Church,Rattlesnake Mt. Shooting Club etc). Thanks Goodness I don't live in Compton, I would be a real threat!
Link Posted: 2/28/2002 5:39:27 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/28/2002 6:08:38 PM EDT
Quit directing me there, it is not good for my ulcer. This was a nice find while I was there [img]http://democraticunderground.com/store/images/home_axis.gif[/img]
Link Posted: 2/28/2002 6:24:53 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/28/2002 6:49:18 PM EDT
Originally Posted By 1GUNRUNNER: Quit directing me there, it is not good for my ulcer. This was a nice find while I was there img: Axis of Evil
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Sweatshirts, mugs, and mousepads also available!
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Dude!! I want that coffee mug bad!! Bwhahahaha!!
Link Posted: 2/28/2002 7:16:07 PM EDT
"Safer Society"......What a wonderful thought. I think all the people who share this point of view should join together and put a sign, proudly displayed, on their front lawn. The sign should read " Safer Society! Another proud gun free home". After these folks are robbed 3 or 4 times then maybe they will reconsider their point of view. Also if you are a criminal which house will you pick? The house with a sign like this or the house without a sign. This will make you and I much safer at their expense and thats cool!
Link Posted: 3/1/2002 12:18:30 PM EDT
That article is all over the place. No wonder we have such inherent problems in our society. Me thinks they have been wathching too much "Hollywood style" T.V. Now where is my latest edition of The Onion. It beats the hell out of what I just read! pgo
Link Posted: 3/1/2002 12:36:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/1/2002 12:37:52 PM EDT by KBaker]
Calm down y'all. We're on it already. The commentary on the article has been uniformly negative both in the [url=www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-bin/duforum/duboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=1992&forum=DCForumID38]commentary forum[/url] and in the [url=www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-bin/duforum/duboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=590&forum=DCForumID32&omm=0]Justice/Public Safety[/url] forum. The author is a college law student. AKA air-head. Education is the answer, not a flamethrower.
Link Posted: 3/1/2002 12:54:06 PM EDT
[b]"Then again - we do value our Constitution, and our founders obviously thought guns were okay under some circumstances."[/b] If that were true wouldn't the Founding Fathers have included the circumstances in the constitution? DUH! [stick] Shok
Link Posted: 3/1/2002 1:22:36 PM EDT
Hey, I got an idea: We should set up a Democrap rating system. 1-10 ratings on categories like (higher scores for worthless nonsense): Ignoring critical points (like self-defense) 10 - need I say more? Misinterpreting the constitution 8 - "guns were okay under some circumstances". Yeah, that's why it says "the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" Total lack of facts, or facts whose "proof" would make Bill Clinton cringe 10 - author doesn't even try to include any actual facts promotion of socialism 0 - not much of that here, maybe indirectly Rampant, undirected speculation with no point 2 - well, it does have a point, even if it's a pretty dumb one
Link Posted: 3/1/2002 1:34:04 PM EDT
Rifles, shotguns, and yes, even handguns are useful tools for farmers and ranchers.
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How generous of them. To allow 2% of the population the "right" to own a gun.
Link Posted: 3/1/2002 1:38:29 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/1/2002 2:11:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/1/2002 2:14:45 PM EDT by Watch-Six]
The writer of this crap obviously has very limited powers of observation. He does not see any "vermin" or "stalking coyotes" in the inner cities. I, on the other hand, always see plenty of them there. Watch-Six
Link Posted: 3/1/2002 2:35:41 PM EDT
1GUNRUNNER...I sent that pic Axis-of-Evil image to Drudge. Let's see what happens. Arock Gonna miss you at Angelo's tomorrow. My offer still stands. [:D]
Link Posted: 3/2/2002 5:16:30 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/3/2002 5:42:10 AM EDT
Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:
Rifles, shotguns, and yes, even handguns are useful tools for farmers and ranchers.
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How generous of them. To allow 2% of the population the "right" to own a gun.
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Yes, that is clever. Instead of outright gun prohibition and "gun control", they now advocate to allow "2nd amendment hunting rights", ala Al Gore, for farmers and rural citizens (which means single-shit rifles and shotguns), while banning of actually useful guns for everyone else. Oh, and they push for "gun safety" legislation (no self-defense). I didn't go the the DU forums posted, because its morning and I'm cranky already. But I think I got the gist of the subject there.
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