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Posted: 2/23/2002 8:39:22 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/23/2002 10:46:49 PM EDT
See! You should never try to use a gun to attack someone! They'll just take it away from you and shoot you with it. [ducks]
Link Posted: 2/23/2002 10:58:06 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/24/2002 12:05:31 AM EDT
charges will likely be filed against the suspect, but no decision has been made whether the owner will also face charges.
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hey this guy should be given a medal, why are they even considering pressing charges??
Link Posted: 2/25/2002 3:02:24 AM EDT
country is headed for the sewer.... Someone PISTOL WHIPS a victim and puts a GUN to the victim's mother's HEAD, and "charges will ?**LIKELY**? be filed against the suspect". Why would there be any questions as to charges being filed? Because the attacker got shot? Secondly - "no decision has been made whether the OWNER will also face charges"? What will they charge him with - self defense? Failing to accept the pistol whipping and imminent murder of his mother like a good victim should?
Link Posted: 2/25/2002 7:13:51 AM EDT
From a friend who is former leo - I sent the story to him - here was his reply: The victim will most likely be filed on for agg assault against the suspect. As soon as the Grand Jury receives the charges, they "no bill" the victim and charges are dropped. When my partner and I were in a shooting, they filed charges against my partner. The reason they do this is to clear the police dept of civil liability and possible allegations of corruption. Basically, the police dept wants an external group of people (Grand Jury) to look at the presented evidence and make certain that the police were correct in there assumption of self defense. And, the only way they can do this is to file charges against the victim or else the grand jury will not review the case. I was quite upset about the charges, because it felt like I and my partner were being criminalized. As you can imagine, our lives were a living hell for about 2 weeks anyway with internal affairs. At the same time, I can see where the chief of police was coming from about charging his own officers. Corruption allegations and civil liability are serious problems for Police dept to deal with, so they have to protect themselves at every angle. I can also see where you would be upset by the charges. Its really a smoke and mirror display to cover the police dept. The police dept knows the charges will be dropped and have no intention to pursue them. Hope that helps. Not an excuse for a poor system, just an explaination.
Link Posted: 2/25/2002 7:40:07 AM EDT
Milli Vanilli was shot with his own gun?? DAMN!
Link Posted: 2/25/2002 7:54:25 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Tate: From a friend who is former leo - I sent the story to him - here was his reply: The victim will most likely be filed on for agg assault against the suspect. As soon as the Grand Jury receives the charges, they "no bill" the victim and charges are dropped. When my partner and I were in a shooting, they filed charges against my partner. The reason they do this is to clear the police dept of civil liability and possible allegations of corruption. Basically, the police dept wants an external group of people (Grand Jury) to look at the presented evidence and make certain that the police were correct in there assumption of self defense. And, the only way they can do this is to file charges against the victim or else the grand jury will not review the case. I was quite upset about the charges, because it felt like I and my partner were being criminalized. As you can imagine, our lives were a living hell for about 2 weeks anyway with internal affairs. At the same time, I can see where the chief of police was coming from about charging his own officers. Corruption allegations and civil liability are serious problems for Police dept to deal with, so they have to protect themselves at every angle. I can also see where you would be upset by the charges. Its really a smoke and mirror display to cover the police dept. The police dept knows the charges will be dropped and have no intention to pursue them. Hope that helps. Not an excuse for a poor system, just an explaination.
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Its not a poor system, it is one that ensures that the victim will be cleared of a civil suit if the bad guy brings charges. After a grand jury releases him, he can use that in his motion for summary judgement if the BG persists.
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