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Posted: 2/22/2002 5:13:38 AM EDT
Thought that would grab your attention![:D] Here's a sweet little story that is just made for our philosphy - an armed Israeli [u]woman[/u] puts a quick end to a suicide bomber! [size=4](08:30) Alert customer shoots terrorist in Efrat supermarket[/size=4] By The Jerusalem Post Internet Staff An alert customer shot dead a terrorist who tried to set off an explosive device in a supermarket a few minutes ago in Efrat. The town is in Gush Etzion, a block of Jewish communities in Judea, south of Bethlehem. At least one small explosion did take place, leaving one customer lightly wounded but causing no casualties, said Jerusalem Post reporter Margot Dudkevitch. Nails from one of the explosions littered the floor. Further tragedy was averted when a [b]woman[/b] shopping in the packed supermarket apparently saw the terrorist trying to set off a second explosion and [b]shot him twice in the head from close range[/b]. A police source told Israel Radio the terrorist apparently intended to detonate a small bomb in the supermarket and then blow himself up with the explosive belt when police forces came to the scene. The terrorist was a Palestinian who had a permit allowing him to work in Efrat, Israel Radio reported. Sources in Bethlehem revealed the terrorist was Muhammad Ashimali, 22, from the village Adoha, south of Bethlehem. [b]Ashimali wanted to be a martyr, his father said[/b]. The circumstances of the attack are still being investigated. See article at:[url]http://www.jpost.com/Editions/2002/02/22/News/News.43961.html[/url] [b][i]Shabat Shalom![/i][/b], my dear sweet [b][i]Sabra[/i][/b], whoever you are! Eric The(Dad?PleaseComePickUpYour'Martyred'Son!Bri­ngASponge,Mop,AndBucket!)Hun[>]:)]
Link Posted: 2/22/2002 4:42:29 PM EDT
A girl with a gun has more fun!
Link Posted: 2/22/2002 5:03:56 PM EDT
Sheesh, for a second I was afraid you were posting nekkid pictures.
Link Posted: 2/22/2002 9:20:01 PM EDT
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Sheesh, for a second I was afraid you were posting nekkid pictures.
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'Afraid'? [:D] Eric The(ComeToTheLodge)Hun[>]:)]
Link Posted: 2/22/2002 9:28:15 PM EDT
Well, at least he got to die....just not the way he wanted!!!! A women with a gun is what I call true female empowerment, just wish the N.O.W. would see things that way. Sgtar15
Link Posted: 2/22/2002 9:32:03 PM EDT
That's why I married one!
Link Posted: 2/22/2002 9:35:01 PM EDT
Mandatory military service saves the day, YET again! GOOD GIRL!
Link Posted: 2/22/2002 9:52:20 PM EDT
and of course the schmucks at CNN reported this as a shooting by a security guard employed by the supermarked. God forbid they should ever, EVER let the truth get in the way of their agenda Shabat Shalom from me too, anyone know where I can send the little lady a box of ammo?
Link Posted: 2/22/2002 11:32:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/22/2002 11:42:02 PM EDT by ArmdLbrl]
The deceased bomber... and the crowd that gathered. [left][img]http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20020222/i/2751881253.jpg[/img][/left][right][img]http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20020222/capt.1014390613mideast_israel_palestinians_jrl103.jpg[/img][/right] Look at all the wonderful toys those Isralies can own. Shame the neighborhood sucks...
Link Posted: 2/22/2002 11:49:27 PM EDT
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Sending the bot to disarm the body... [img]http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20020222/capt.1014387223.mideast_israel_palestinians_jrl102.jpg[/img] Three things came to mind when I saw this... This is why your mother always said to make sure you had clean underwear on when you left the house [i]PURPLE[/i]... He went to meet Allah in [i]purple[/i] briefs?!? We have GAY suicide bombers now? Umm... where is the head??[:o]
Link Posted: 2/23/2002 6:43:12 AM EDT
Yep, looks like this guy gets 72 virgin males. Hope they stretched out his orifice with that large poking device [:D] They should return the body to the family with pig entrails hangin out his @ss
Link Posted: 2/23/2002 7:32:26 AM EDT
Two head shots! Very nice shooting my dear! [:D]
Link Posted: 2/23/2002 7:39:21 AM EDT
[b]OUTSTANDING![/b]
Link Posted: 2/23/2002 12:58:50 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Chaingun: They should return the body to the family with pig entrails hangin out his @ss
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I keep waiting for Mossad to send one of these guys back loaded with explosives...How much C4 do you think you can stuff in a human torso?
Link Posted: 2/23/2002 2:14:15 PM EDT
Originally Posted By ArmdLbrl: The deceased bomber... and the crowd that gathered. [left][img]http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20020222/capt.1014390613mideast_israel_palestinians_jrl103.jpg[/img][/right] Look at all the wonderful toys those Isralies can own. Shame the neighborhood sucks...
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Nobody in Israel can own AR of any kind. These settlers have Colt Carbine issued by the IDF for self defence.
Link Posted: 2/23/2002 9:03:56 PM EDT
Hey! That settler with the beard and the M-16 looks a lot like my Israeli cousin, Ezra Ben Hun. Not to be confused with [u]Ezra Ben Hur[/u], the central character from Union General Lew Wallace's famous novel, [i][b]Ben Hur[/b][/i], and portrayed by President Charlton Heston in the 1959 movie by the same name! The movie's Prologue: [b]Anno Domini - In the year of our Lord, Judea for nearly a century had lain under the mastery of Rome. In the seventh year of the reign of Augustus Caesar, an imperial decree ordered every Judean each to return to his place of birth to be counted and taxed. Converging ways of many of them led to the gates of their capital city Jerusalem, the troubled heart of their land...Even while they obeyed the will of Caesar, the people clung proudly to their ancient heritage always remembering the promise of their prophets that one day there would be born among them a Redeemer to bring them salvation and perfect freedom.[/b] Eric The(OneOfTheBest)Hun[>]:)]
Link Posted: 2/23/2002 9:25:14 PM EDT
As Paolo said, The guys with ARs are probably auxilary police for the settlement, or something along those lines. Private gun ownership is actually really (disgustingly) restricted in Israel, and American RKBA organizations are really off sometimes when they point to Israel as an example. Israel provides many good examples of how guns in the hands of normal folks can stop crimes/terrorism/etc, and that's about it. The guns are almost all issued to people for the performance of their military duties. Since so much of the Israeli populace is involved in a military capacity, many people assume that all those heavily armed people = very little firearms restrictions, Israeli society is more of a facade of democracy and exhibits alot of socialist/marxist traits (the collectivism of the kibbutz, etc). I don't particularly like many Palestinians, but some of the Israeli Gov't. practices towards Arab citizens and even sometimes Jewish citizens bear little resemblance to anything but the practices of the Third Reich. It is the most sad kind of irony that some of the best (worst?) examples of nazi-like behavior in the modern world are the actions of Jews. Before you start arguing.. Chuck Schumer. :) Regardless, kudos to the woman who refused to be a victim. And also, does the guy with the beard have an ACOG or what on his CAR-15?
Link Posted: 2/23/2002 9:33:58 PM EDT
Good thing he was only trying to plant a bomb------had he been shop-lifting, well then, things might have gotten pretty ugly!
PURPLE... He went to meet Allah in purple briefs?!? We have GAY suicide bombers now?
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LMAO!
Link Posted: 2/23/2002 9:57:32 PM EDT
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Isn't the M-4 built on an A1-e2 upper?? kind of makes this on old one.
Link Posted: 2/23/2002 10:29:05 PM EDT
Israeli Women? No not all, this one did though, they all are not super women. Infact the overwelming majority 99% would not have done what she did, let alone most of the men. Good job though.
Link Posted: 2/25/2002 6:23:47 AM EDT
Originally Posted By maelcum: As Paolo said, The guys with ARs are probably auxilary police for the settlement, or something along those lines. Private gun ownership is actually really (disgustingly) restricted in Israel, and American RKBA organizations are really off sometimes when they point to Israel as an example.
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No. They are civilians that live in "areas of strategical interest". The IDF supply them AR, an since then they are under military jurisdiction.
Israeli society is more of a facade of democracy and exhibits alot of socialist/marxist traits (the collectivism of the kibbutz, etc). I don't particularly like many Palestinians, but some of the Israeli Gov't. practices towards Arab citizens and even sometimes Jewish citizens bear little resemblance to anything but the practices of the Third Reich. It is the most sad kind of irony that some of the best (worst?) examples of nazi-like behavior in the modern world are the actions of Jews. Before you start arguing.. Chuck Schumer. :)
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Third Reich? Where? Some methods were of questionable morality, but, folks, Americans didn't fight for their own survival in their own land since Indian Wars. And methods to fight Indians and colonize West, and methods to fight arabs and colonize Israel are curiosely similar. With a big difference: The Founding Fathers didn't have any root in the New World. No cultural, no ethnical, nothing. Israelis had all their cultural heritage coming from this land. Nazi behavior? Tell me one thing, dude: how come that a jerk like the Walker the Taliban has rights, even if he betrayed his own country, and a foreign citizien can "disappear" in USA without notice? Maybe Israel is becaming nazist as USA is becaming a south american "banana" republic? Or, facing the truth, Israel and USA have to face a mortal threat? For the moment we Europeans don't have to face such a thing... FOR THE MOMENT...
Regardless, kudos to the woman who refused to be a victim. And also, does the guy with the beard have an ACOG or what on his CAR-15?
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The one in the foreground has an ACOG... is it possible to find used Acogs in USA? I'd like to put one of them on my AR...
Link Posted: 2/25/2002 4:13:42 PM EDT
Funny, that's how the palestinian women seem to do it as well, Eric. At least there is equality in killing.
Originally Posted By PaoloAR15: [Tell me one thing, dude: how come that a jerk like the Walker the Taliban has rights, even if he betrayed his own country, and a foreign citizien can "disappear" in USA without notice? Maybe Israel is becaming nazist as USA is becaming a south american "banana" republic?
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Allright, I was following what you said until you got to this part. You are equating the US with the Junta in Argentina that "disappeared" so many? Please spell it out for me. I think a little of that last sentence IS TRUE actually, but there are death squads running around in Peoria? The only foreign citizens I know of that fit that criterion are the ones who "disappeared" INTO THE WORLD TRADE CENTER...
The one in the foreground has an ACOG... is it possible to find used Acogs in USA? I'd like to put one of them on my AR...
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Yes it is. But remember if you are buying used: The tritium inside of an acog only lasts for ten years (you have to redo it) - so consider the age of the acog in any deal you make.
Link Posted: 2/25/2002 7:59:24 PM EDT
Chances are those "toys" the men were carrying were paid for by American tax dollars. I'm getting sick and tired of supporting the assholes in Israel killing freedom fighters with my money. They should never have taken the land away from the Arabs. I don't blame the Arabs for fighting back. I would too and I think most people that post to this site would fight if oppressed by the likes of the Israelis. My next door neighbor spent some time in Israel as an American military liaison officer. He said the Israelis are the biggest bunch of pricks he has ever seen. Everything is about money and having things their way. They only share intelligence with the US for a price. I have nothing against Jews. I just can't stand the most obnoxious country on the face of the earth. Sorry Hun, I know how much you love them and you think they can do no wrong.
Link Posted: 2/25/2002 8:21:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/25/2002 8:26:49 PM EDT by ArmdLbrl]
So Flash 66, when are you heading back to Europe? And which tribe are you going to return you property to? No American can criticize Israels policies toward the Muslim Palistinians because when our country was 54 years old we were doing the SAME DAMN THING to the Native Americans. And EVERYTHING you have, your property, your wealth, your job, you owe to those people who were bastards enough to kill and disposses those Indians. You can choose not to get involved but its hypocracy to call the Israelis "assholes" for wanting what we have and trying to get it. And you sir are double hypocrite for claming not to hate Jews and then resorting to one of the oldest anti-semetic stereotypes in the world, "Everything is about money and having things their way". I dont blame them at all for demanding a price even on cooperative ventures. They know that there are plenty of people like YOU who consider them to be either a hastle or outright vermin. If they don't drive a bargan they would be quickly deserted... And that is the whole reason Isreal exists, they got tired of being dependant on gentile "frends" who always desert them in the time of need. Even the United States did when we restricted Jewish immigration right at the time Hitler was begining to round them up. The existance of Isreal means that Jews would always have some place to go and someone to defend them...
Link Posted: 2/26/2002 12:59:58 AM EDT
Originally Posted By ArmdLbrl: So Flash 66, when are you heading back to Europe? And which tribe are you going to return you property to? No American can criticize Israels policies toward the Muslim Palistinians because when our country was 54 years old we were doing the SAME DAMN THING to the Native Americans. And EVERYTHING you have, your property, your wealth, your job, you owe to those people who were bastards enough to kill and disposses those Indians. You can choose not to get involved but its hypocracy to call the Israelis "assholes" for wanting what we have and trying to get it. And you sir are double hypocrite for claming not to hate Jews and then resorting to one of the oldest anti-semetic stereotypes in the world, "Everything is about money and having things their way". I dont blame them at all for demanding a price even on cooperative ventures. They know that there are plenty of people like YOU who consider them to be either a hastle or outright vermin. If they don't drive a bargan they would be quickly deserted... And that is the whole reason Isreal exists, they got tired of being dependant on gentile "frends" who always desert them in the time of need. Even the United States did when we restricted Jewish immigration right at the time Hitler was begining to round them up. The existance of Isreal means that Jews would always have some place to go and someone to defend them...
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Maybe you told with too much emphasys, but you told it right. Most of the americans don't want to recognize that USA were made the same way Israel was made. American natives were expropriated, christianazed, gettoed in reserves, considered at all effects "2 class" citiziens, and why? Because settlers wanted their land, the resources that those lands (gold, ore, petroleum, wood, and so on) could offer, so it's again the same model "everything for the money and my way". With difference: that Israelis culture belongs to Middle East, and instead of "getting" resources they created them and enriched what once was a "waste land". About the "old story" of rifle and taxpayer: with all the respects to them, most of the AR used by the settlers are BOUGHT with money collected by US Jews, sent to Israel, where the IDF has the task to ditribute them to the settlers. Anyway, your money is better spent than money of us Europeans. You give money to Israelis mainly for high tech weapons (ALL the M16 I saw in Israel were aged... or restored by the battallion armory), but EU funds for Palestinian education programs are spent to make antisemitic book, as reported in the biggest italian newspaper some weeks ago. Anyway, I'll always been grateful to the USA to exist, otherwise in Europe we would celebrate still now Uncle Adolf's birthdays all the years...
Link Posted: 2/26/2002 1:24:02 AM EDT
Originally Posted By EricTheHun: [b]shot him twice in the head from close range[/b]
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EXCELLENT. Sucks being a terrorist doesn't it?
Link Posted: 2/26/2002 4:07:44 PM EDT
ARMDLBRL Lets see if I can dispel some of your assumptions. My Grandmother was a Seminole Indian so that makes me partially a "native American". My best friend of 40 years is Jewish. I'll repeat what I said in my original post, I have nothing against Jews. As a Christian I consider myself a "spiritual Jew" If you look at my post you will see that the comment about money and getting their way was a comment from someone who had spent some time in Israel. I have always thought that Israel was an obnoxious country. I understand why the Jews left Europe but I can't understand why they have treated the Arabs like crap. Of all people they should know what it is like to be brutalized by an unyielding and well funded enemy. I hope they wake up one day and strike a deal with the Arabs that everyone can live with. I don't think the Arabs are terrorist. I think they are more like the patriots in America who fought against the British.
Link Posted: 2/26/2002 4:33:06 PM EDT
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Funny, that's how the palestinian women seem to do it as well, Eric.
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Nope, not even close. The only Palestinian woman that I know of that's done 'anything' is that loser (being divorced in Islam is the end of the line for a woman) who killed a 81 year old man, as he walked peacefully along a quiet street in Jerusalem. She also succeeded in ripping her own body apart so well that the forensic team had a tough time determining that she was a woman! And injuring almost 100 other innocent men, women, and children! Innocent, remember that concept? This Israeli woman (a veritable Hero, a modern day Ruth, who saved her people) shot a scumbag suicide-bomber [u]before[/u] he had killed any innocent men, women, and children!
At least there is equality in killing.
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Only in the strange and bizarre world of Osama Bin Laden and shooter69! BTW, what in Lord's name is 'funny' in this thread? Oh yes, the dead douchebag's purple underwear! That must be the part you were referring to in your statement! Eric The(RightThinking)Hun[>]:)]
Link Posted: 2/26/2002 4:48:48 PM EDT
Who shot that pregnant Israeli woman recently???? DaMan
Link Posted: 2/26/2002 8:56:21 PM EDT
bbbbeeeeeeeeee, bbbbeeeeeeee, bbbeeeeeeeee sound familiar goys?
Link Posted: 2/27/2002 12:10:03 AM EDT
Originally Posted By EricTheHun: Post from shooter69 -
Funny, that's how the palestinian women seem to do it as well, Eric.
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Nope, not even close. The only Palestinian woman that I know of that's done 'anything' is that loser (being divorced in Islam is the end of the line for a woman) who killed a 81 year old man, as he walked peacefully along a quiet street in Jerusalem. She also succeeded in ripping her own body apart so well that the forensic team had a tough time determining that she was a woman! And injuring almost 100 other innocent men, women, and children! Innocent, remember that concept? This Israeli woman (a veritable Hero, a modern day Ruth, who saved her people) shot a scumbag suicide-bomber [u]before[/u] he had killed any innocent men, women, and children!
At least there is equality in killing.
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Only in the strange and bizarre world of Osama Bin Laden and shooter69! BTW, what in Lord's name is 'funny' in this thread? Oh yes, the dead douchebag's purple underwear! That must be the part you were referring to in your statement! Eric The(RightThinking)Hun[>]:)]
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Funny, as in it strikes me as odd, that you would have found such a thing to be something to marvel over. "Hey everyone, look over here..." Like some carnival barker. Now, that was the first female suicide bomber, but hardly the first palestinian female to stab, shoot, lure the unsuspecting, or hijack a plane in pursuit of their terrorist agenda in this decades old ongoing conflict. The equality that I was referring to stems from the fact that women in muslim societies are little better than second class citizens by our western definitions. Perhaps that was too deep for you to get.
Link Posted: 2/27/2002 4:00:00 AM EDT
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Funny, as in it strikes me as odd, that you would have found such a thing to be something to marvel over. "Hey everyone, look over here..." Like some carnival barker.
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Anytime, anywhere a private individual uses a firearm to stop or deter a crime is very big and welcome news on a Board such as this that values the RKBA. Don't you agree? And the fact that the shooter was a woman, is even better from [b]our[/b] standpoint, right? So quit your bitching! You just don't like the 'Israeli' part of the story! Tough cookies!
The equality that I was referring to stems from the fact that women in muslim societies are little better than second class citizens by our western definitions. Perhaps that was too deep for you to get.
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They are little better than second class citizens by [b]any[/b] defitions or standards! Or is that too deep for you? Eric The(HowDeepWouldYouLikeToGo?)Hun[>]:)]
Link Posted: 2/27/2002 4:09:30 AM EDT
Originally Posted By EricTheHun: Anytime, anywhere a private individual uses a firearm to stop or deter a crime is very big and welcome news on a Board such as this that values the RKBA. Don't you agree? Eric The(HowDeepWouldYouLikeToGo?)Hun[>]:)]
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Absolutely! I think what she did was great! It should give American (or any other)women who fear attack, rape, etc. a good idea about arming themselves.
Link Posted: 2/27/2002 1:03:06 PM EDT
Sounds good to me Eric
Link Posted: 2/27/2002 2:29:33 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Flash66: ARMDLBRL Lets see if I can dispel some of your assumptions. My Grandmother was a Seminole Indian so that makes me partially a "native American". My best friend of 40 years is Jewish. I'll repeat what I said in my original post, I have nothing against Jews. As a Christian I consider myself a "spiritual Jew" If you look at my post you will see that the comment about money and getting their way was a comment from someone who had spent some time in Israel. I have always thought that Israel was an obnoxious country. I understand why the Jews left Europe but I can't understand why they have treated the Arabs like crap. Of all people they should know what it is like to be brutalized by an unyielding and well funded enemy. I hope they wake up one day and strike a deal with the Arabs that everyone can live with. I don't think the Arabs are terrorist. I think they are more like the patriots in America who fought against the British.
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You must be kidding... ARABS NO TERRORISTS? I suppose that also Usama Ibn Laden is a patriot that is fighting to free Saudi Arabia from infidels... notice that The Saudi govt. first called americans to free Kuwait, but after the Allies did the job (how bad they didn't complete it going up to Baghdad!!!) Saudis are emitting a lot of signals that westeners are no more welcomed and maybe they should take all their bases and go back home, instead of walking on the "holy" land of the Prophet... Arafat is concerned only about his ass and his bank account, otherwise he would get all the fucking 97% of the Territories (offered by a regular and democratic Israeli govt.!!!) and finally give a home state for all the Palestinians more than ONE YEARS AGO! What did the palestinans choose? Intifada! Is it patriottism to kill teenagers in front of a disco? Is it patriotism to kill people eating pizza? Is it patriotism to kill elders or pregant women waiting for the bus? And when I mean "kill" i mean INTENTIONALLY KILL! Not by mistake... I don't think that Israelis are liliwihite flowers, innocence is the first victim of the war. But Palestinians are MUD! How came, finally, that those "patriots" were expelled by Jordanians un the tip of their guns, Syria warned them even not to try to settle within Syrian borders, and they were also cordially hated even by Lebanese Muslims after they settled in South Lebanon? Palestinians are not welcomed by the arabs countries themselves, and we are still talking about how Israel is behaving bad with the arabs: can we talk about, once in a while, how ARABS behave with ARABS?
Link Posted: 2/27/2002 5:34:12 PM EDT
Eric: Obviously I am just not as enraptured in the endless cycle of tit for tat violence as you are ("This is how Israeli women do it!"). There is a difference between taking care of business and gloating over it. Somehow I suspect that the shooter in question isn't as jubilant as you are... It's amusing that you would suggest ANY kind of bias on my part when you are the one peppering your polemic with unnecessary biblical comparisons that go far beyond the RKBA self-defense position you articulated... clearly showing YOUR BIAS :) I'm also sorry that you take a myopic "ugly american" view of the world, by assuming that our mores and norms are the only ones in existence ("by [b]any[/b] defitions or standards!"). The civic standards of the world vary considerably outside the West. Many Asian, African, Arab & Muslim countries do not consider their women to be inferior in status or rights, only possessing a different status and set of rights. It is WE who consider them to be so. Others may not be able to see it but I appreciate the wry, subtle sense of humor in your writing, operating just below the surface. It takes chutzpah to say some of the things you do. The only conclusion one can draw is that you are a mensch! BTW Did that last reply warrant standing on your chair? Or, with only three sentences in a row ending with exclamation points, was it one of your less emotional outbursts?
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Predisposed? That's a friggin' understatement. I'd say fanatically driven would come closer to the truth. Much closer.
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Must be a very good thing to be a friend of ETH! You see how I will always defend my friends. Fanatically! Yes, indeed.
Just curious about your writing style here ETH. I notice that at about 2/3 of all of your sentences end with an exclamation point. Do these words come to you as some sort of revelation that require such intense puctuation? Do you actually speak like that in person?
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I'm actually standing on my chair while I type this reply - does that give you any hint at my level of emotion?
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