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Posted: 2/15/2002 5:33:06 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/15/2002 5:34:03 AM EDT by EricTheHun]
[size=4]Chinese official eyed in bugging of plane[/size=4] By Bill Gertz, THE WASHINGTON TIMES Chinese President Jiang Zemin believes fellow Politburo member Li Peng is behind the planting of electronic listening devices aboard the president's new U.S. jetliner, according to a classified State Department intelligence report. Mr. Jiang is said by U.S. intelligence officials to be convinced that Mr. Li ordered the aircraft bugging to listen in on the Chinese president's discussions of financial corruption related to Mr. Li's wife and children. The assessment of China's discovery of 27 electronic eavesdropping devices inside a new Boeing 767 jetliner helps explain why Beijing has had a muted reaction to the incident, which Beijing initially blamed on U.S. intelligence, the officials said. A Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman said in Beijing last month, when the bugging was first disclosed, that he had no knowledge of the incident but that it would not have "any impact upon other issues." "I said last time that if someone wants to bug China, it will be a stupid act by some individuals," the spokesman said. Disclosure of the State Department report comes as President Bush prepares to embark tomorrow on a trip to China, Japan and South Korea. White House National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice told reporters yesterday that Mr. Bush will meet with Mr. Jiang and give a speech at a Chinese university. The president expects to discuss the war on terrorism, homeland-security issues and economic-security matters with the Chinese leader. China's suppression of human rights and religious freedom also will be discussed, along with Beijing's records of shipping missiles and weapons of mass destruction to unstable regions. Mr. Li heads the National People's Congress, China's nominal legislature and is considered one of the three most powerful leaders in China, after Mr. Jiang and Prime Minister Zhu Rongji. All three are members of the ruling Communist Party Politburo standing committee, the real power in China, and are expected to step down in the next year after a party congress in October. The bugging incident — as well as its disclosure — appears to be part of domestic politics and pre-congress political maneuvering among Chinese leaders, the U.S. officials said. The State Department report said Mr. Jiang is "90 percent certain" Mr. Li was behind the bugging, even though initial reports suggested that U.S. intelligence agencies had planted the devices, either by circumventing Chinese security guards or co-opting them. Officials said Mr. Jiang's suspicions are a sign the electronic devices found inside the aircraft were traced to China, probably its military intelligence services. Senior Bush administration officials, including Secretary of State Colin L. Powell and Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld have been silent on the issue, declining to comment on what they regard as an intelligence matter. - continued -
Link Posted: 2/15/2002 5:33:48 AM EDT
A State Department spokeswoman declined to comment yesterday when asked about the report by the department's intelligence bureau, known as INR. The listening devices were found in September or October aboard a new Boeing 767 jet that had been outfitted under Chinese military supervision by a U.S. company in Texas. The bugs reportedly were planted in a bathroom and in a bedroom aboard the jet, intended exclusively for the Chinese president's travel use. The jet is sitting at an airfield north of Beijing, where it is part of the official investigation into the bugging. The officials said Mr. Li was one of the Chinese leaders who backed the Chinese military assault on protesters in Tiananmen Square in 1989 and was a key backer of Mr. Jiang's rise to top Chinese leader after the massacre by Chinese troops. Chinese press accounts in recent weeks have carried unusual articles about corruption among Chinese leaders and their relatives. A Chinese magazine, Securities Market Weekly, ran an article implying that Mr. Li's wife and son had used their political connections to help a Chinese power company. The magazine later was forced to apologize for the article. But a short time later, about 100 protesters gathered outside the Beijing National People's Congress, which Mr. Li heads. The protesters demanded an inquiry into an investment company said to be linked to Mr. Li's son. James Lilley, a former ambassador to China, said it is plausible that domestic Chinese politics are behind the bugging. "Li Peng came out with a fairly strong statement on human rights inviting us to butt out," Mr. Lilley said in an interview. Mr. Lilley said Chinese communist officials are known to have carried out electronic eavesdropping against political rivals in the past, notably during the upheaval of the Cultural Revolution in the 1970s. "Factions have used this technique in the past," he said. "With the run-up to the party congress, we're obviously seeing tensions building [among Chinese leaders]," Mr. Lilley said. "There's a struggle, and Jiang is under attack for being soft on America." Mr. Li is the logical opponent because he has been known as a leading anti-American hard-liner, Mr. Lilley said. Vice President Hu Jintao, considered the favorite candidate to succeed Mr. Jiang after the party congress in October, recently gave a positive speech about U.S.-Chinese relations. See article at:[url]http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20020215-209632.htm[/url] Eric The(Informative)Hun[>]:)]
Link Posted: 2/15/2002 8:02:46 AM EDT
Although I am terribly peace-loving. I would really be disappointed if we hadn't. Really! [;)] P.s. Don't ruin my misconceptions anymore, ok?
Link Posted: 2/15/2002 8:12:48 AM EDT
Originally Posted By EricTheHun: [size=4]Chinese official eyed in bugging of plane[/size=4] By Bill Gertz, THE WASHINGTON TIMES
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So?
Link Posted: 2/15/2002 8:17:51 AM EDT
Link Posted: 2/15/2002 10:18:56 AM EDT
Originally Posted By raf: Does the Chinese president often hold sensitive political conferences in his plane's bathroom? Bedroom? And does it take 27 bugs to monitor these two presumably confined spaces? Something's very odd about this incident.
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raf, gives this a thought. The bugs that were 'meant' to be found have been found. [?]
Link Posted: 2/15/2002 10:22:39 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Badseed: I would really be disappointed if we hadn't.
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Have faith and hold your disappointment. No way, noooo waaaaay we let that plane out of here with out it being wired at least for sound - probably video on demand too !
Link Posted: 2/15/2002 10:33:27 AM EDT
Originally Posted By EricTheHun: "With the run-up to the party congress, we're obviously seeing tensions building [among Chinese leaders]," Mr. Lilley said. "There's a struggle, and Jiang is under attack for being soft on America." Mr. Li is the logical opponent because he has been known as a leading anti-American hard-liner, Mr. Lilley said. Eric The(Informative)Hun[>]:)]
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Uhhh they crashed into our plane! Bring it on sucka's!
Link Posted: 2/15/2002 10:53:24 AM EDT
So that's why they found those bugs so fast..."made in China." The bugs planted by our boys probably remain intact. How did we get this recent information anyway?
Link Posted: 2/15/2002 11:57:46 AM EDT
This is very sad news, I was so proud of our spy boys, well there is always nextime.
Link Posted: 2/15/2002 12:31:56 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/15/2002 1:42:23 PM EDT
All's fair in love and (cold) war.
Link Posted: 2/15/2002 1:54:07 PM EDT
It was Century Arms that did it, they were looking for info on cheap SKS's to import! [;)] (j/k)
Link Posted: 2/15/2002 2:45:15 PM EDT
was "bill gertz" trying to be funny with his "bugging eye" title?...
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