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Posted: 1/30/2002 5:00:40 AM EDT
[size=4]Did ally Pakistan play role in 9-11?[/size=4] [b]Indian intelligence finds more links to terrorist attacks in U.S., Delhi[/b] By Paul Sperry © 2002 WorldNetDaily.com WASHINGTON -- India's Central Bureau of Investigation is turning up evidence that is proving inconvenient for the Bush administration as it tries to maintain its shaky alliance with Pakistan. As administration officials, led by State Secretary Colin Powell, praise Pakistan for its help in the war on terrorism, FBI agents responding to Indian leads are quietly investigating Pakistan-based terrorist groups connected to al-Qaida and the Sept. 11 hijackings. While the American press has largely ignored the Pakistan angle, the Indian press has been putting together pieces to a puzzle that makes Islamabad look more like a willing sponsor of terrorism than a trusted ally in the fight against terrorism. [b]The Pakistani connection[/b] First, rewind to 1999. On Dec. 24, five Pakistani nationals armed with knives hijacked Indian Airlines Flight IC-814 from Katmandu to Kandahar, Afghanistan. Led by Sunny Ahmed Qazi, alias "Burger," the hijackers slashed the throat of one of the 178 passengers, a honeymooner, and forced pilots to open the cockpit door. On Sept. 11, of course, five al-Qaida terrorists armed with knives hijacked American Airlines Flight 11 and steered it into the first World Trade Center tower. Led by Mohamed Atta, the hijackers slit the throats of at least two flight attendants and forced pilots to open the cockpit door. Their confederates, also operating in groups of five and wielding knives, hijacked two other jetliners. Another group of four, reportedly one man short, hijacked a fourth plane. What's the connection, besides the mode of operation? Plenty. Burger demanded the Indian government release three Pakistani terrorists from prison in exchange for the airline hostages. After an eight-day stand-off, New Delhi agreed to free Ahmed Omar Sayeed Sheikh among the three. Sheikh turns out to be one of Osama bin Laden's chief money men. About a year before the Sept. 11 attacks, Sheikh wired $100,000 from Pakistan to Atta from an account in the United Arab Emirates capital of Dubai. Sheikh was spotted in Islamabad at the time the money was transferred. The $100,000 covered the hijackers' flight-school tuition and airfare, as well as living expenses. Sheikh picked up an unspent residual of more than $25,000 from Atta and three other hijackers in Dubai right before the attacks, then fled back to Karachi, Pakistan. The 28-year-old Sheikh is a leader in Pakistan-based Jaish-e-Mohammed (J-e-M), an Islamic militant group. Its founder, Mohammad Masood Azhar, aka Maulana Masood, is closely linked to bin Laden. In fact, bin Laden is understood to have helped fund the well-financed, well-organized J-e-M, making it al-Qaida's arm in Pakistan. J-e-M also runs terrorist training camps in Pakistan-occupied Kashmir. [b]But don't stop there.[/b] Azhar was freed along with Sheikh in the 1999 India Airlines hostages-for-prisoners deal. Delhi's capitulation proved a fatal error, as Azhar is now accused of masterminding the J-e-M's Dec. 13 suicide attack on India's Parliament House in which 14 were killed, including five J-e-M terrorists. - continued -
Link Posted: 1/30/2002 5:01:38 AM EDT
And there's more: Delhi police believe that the leader of the suicide squad was none other than Burger, the lead hijacker of the India Airlines flight. [b]'Pampered' terrorist[/b] The Indian government thinks Pakistan's military spy agency, Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), has sponsored and protected Azhar and his protégé, Sheikh. And it accuses ISI of sponsoring the Dec. 13 suicide attack on the Indian Parliament. What's more, it suspects ISI was tied to the 1999 hijacking. "Azhar is considered to be a pampered terrorist of Pakistan's ISI," said The Press Trust of India. India Abroad says ISI has been "instrumental" in recruiting terrorists for training camps in Kashmir. But here's what's really disturbing. According to accounts in both The Times of India and India Today, former ISI chief Lt. Gen. Mahmud Ahmad instructed Sheikh to send the $100,000 to Atta. "A direct link between the ISI and the WTC attack could have enormous repercussions," the Times article said. "The U.S. cannot but suspect whether there were other senior Pakistani Army commanders who were in the know of things." It added: "Evidence of a larger conspiracy could shake U.S. confidence in Pakistan's ability to participate in the anti-terrorism coalition." The Times says Ahmad lost his job only after India shared with the FBI evidence showing a link between the general and Sheikh's wiring of funds to Atta. Dennis M. Lormel, director of FBI's financial crimes unit, confirmed the transaction. Not long after, J-e-M's accounts were frozen. The Bush administration has said the money trail is a crucial link in uncovering the support network for the 19 hijackers, and then destroying that network. However, a major hub of that network is in Pakistan, and it's still active, as India learned, tragically, last month. Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf has banned J-e-M and arrested Azhar. But Azhar is not the only terrorist on India's list of wanted terrorists from Pakistan. Sheikh reportedly now lives near the Binori mosque in Karachi, on the Pakistani coast. And the four remaining hijackers of Indian Airlines Flight 814 are still hiding in Pakistan. - continued -
Link Posted: 1/30/2002 5:05:55 AM EDT
The FBI has trusted Pakistani authorities to question Azhar. But according to the Gulf News, the FBI earlier this month asked the Pakistani government for permission to question Azhar. U.S. officials are reportedly interested in his links to bin Laden, Sheikh and the Sept. 11 attacks. They also want to ask him about bin Laden's whereabouts. Asked about the request, an FBI spokesman demurred. "I can't answer that question at this point because of the diplomatic issues involved," FBI's Jay Spadafore told WorldNetDaily, referring to the administration's tender alliance with Pakistan. Have any FBI agents traveled to Islamabad recently? Spadafore put down the phone and checked with a superior before returning to the line. "I can't comment on where we've deployed agents," he said. It's become increasingly clear that Pakistan is the epicenter of terrorism, and is most likely sheltering bin Laden. Yet, at least publicly, the Bush administration continues to trust the Pakistani government to help capture bin Laden and other anti-American terrorists. At a Jan. 16 press conference in Pakistan, for example, Powell stubbornly insisted that Pakistan is not running a base for terrorism, or sponsoring and harboring terrorists linked to al-Qaida. He suggested the terrorists there are nothing more than free radicals. Asked by an Indian reporter about the seemingly well-organized network of terrorists still operating there, he said that no country is immune from terrorism. [b]Even America has its own "home-grown" terrorists, Powell said dismissively.[/b] See article at:[url] http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=26249[/url] Yes, America does have its own 'home grown' terrorists, Mr. Powell, but was Tim McVeigh funded by the FBI or the CIA? You know, the more I think about it, the more likely it appears that if Bin Laden is not resting under tons of rock in Tora Bora, he's most likely resting in a hut in Pakistan! Why risk leaving the area by boat on the open sea? Eric The(HomeGrown)Hun[>]:)]
Link Posted: 1/30/2002 5:45:56 AM EDT
That musharref guy seems way too shady for me. I wouldn't doubt it one bit. Keving67
Link Posted: 1/30/2002 6:40:38 AM EDT
Wow! What a surprise! Who would have thunk it? [:P] Eric, I've got news for you. This ain't any recent revelation. The Pakistani government, intelligence services and military have had rogue elements in them before we entered the country. How do you think Osama got out of the Afghanistan? The Indians will use this situation to their best advantage to squeeze foreign aid money and military assistance from the US. They want what we're giving Pakistan! And they want to stop the delivery of the $ and military hardware we promised Pakistan. This is what happens when you start giving handouts to spoiled children. The other spoiled brats see it and want some too! Once you've started, it never ends. What do YOU think we (the United States) should do about it that we haven't already done? DaMan Some of these rogue elements snatched a US journalist the other day.
Link Posted: 1/30/2002 7:22:48 AM EDT
Originally Posted By DaMan: The Pakistani government, intelligence services and military have had rogue elements in them before we entered the country. How do you think Osama got out of the Afghanistan? The Indians will use this situation to their best advantage to squeeze foreign aid money and military assistance from the US. DaMan
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Might simply add the source seems to be India. Still info may be correct. Musharref did some purging of military intelligence early-on. Finally, despite what may have occurred Pakistan has allowed the saving of American lives during the Afghan campaign.
Link Posted: 1/30/2002 7:27:34 AM EDT
Did I ever say that [b]I[/b] was surprised? Eric The(Hmmmm?)Hun[>]:)]
Link Posted: 1/30/2002 7:53:32 AM EDT
Originally Posted By 5subslr5: Might simply add the source seems to be India. Still info may be correct. Musharref did some purging of military intelligence early-on. Finally, despite what may have occurred Pakistan has allowed the saving of American lives during the Afghan campaign.
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5subslr5, I agree with you. The poster (Eric)and source of this of this article definitely have common agendas when it comes to Pakistan. Although some of the facts are correct, the Indians (and Eric)would like you to believe that the ISI had prior knowledge and supported the terrorists in the their 09-11-01 attacks. This is one GIANT LEAP from the "evidence" presented in the article! There is no question that there are still ROGUE elements in ISI and the Pakistani military. But the keyworld is "rogue". They are not following Pakistani government orders or secret instructions. They are doing this on their own. DaMan
Link Posted: 1/30/2002 8:23:58 AM EDT
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The poster (Eric)and source of this of this article definitely have common agendas when it comes to Pakistan.
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Oh yes, please tell me what my agenda might be, DaMan! When I have editorial comment about an article I post, you can count on me to supply it! If there is no comment, it may be that I just want folks to know what's being said! Simple, isn't it! In the meanwhile, get a grip, [b][i]cretina![/i][/b] Eric The(Editorializing)Hun[>]:)]
Link Posted: 1/30/2002 8:27:15 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/30/2002 12:37:22 PM EDT by 5subslr5]
Originally Posted By DaMan: ... the "evidence" presented........
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Never before have I called for a "MOD" but I do so now. Clearly rules have been broken. None of this would have happened had the rule prohibiting presenting "evidence" or facts not been violated. "STRIKER" (Where are you ?)
Link Posted: 1/30/2002 8:31:21 AM EDT
Hey, 5subslr5, I'm a Moderator! I rule in favor of.... Eric The(Nevermind!)Hun[>]:)]
Link Posted: 1/30/2002 8:44:45 AM EDT
Originally Posted By EricTheHun: Hey, 5subslr5, I'm a Moderator! I rule in favor of.... Eric The(Nevermind!)Hun[>]:)]
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I axed for that ! [:D]
Link Posted: 1/30/2002 9:19:07 AM EDT
Oh, how dare I accuse Eric (the moderator) of having an "agenda". Maybe I should just say that your posts have certain "reoccurring and predictable themes", easily recognizable to anyone who has read a few. Is that OK? [:P] If not, and you're still feeling frustrated, please feel free to use your position as moderator to call me names! [:P] DaMan
Link Posted: 1/30/2002 9:34:48 AM EDT
Can't we allll just get along?? [@:D]
Link Posted: 1/30/2002 10:02:59 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/30/2002 11:57:28 AM EDT by EricTheHun]
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Oh, how dare I accuse Eric (the moderator) of having an "agenda". Maybe I should just say that your posts have certain "reoccurring and predictable themes", easily recognizable to anyone who has read a few.
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Hello! I didn't say I didn't have an 'agenda' I asked you what you thought it might be! You didn't answer the question at all.
If not, and you're still feeling frustrated, please feel free to use your position as moderator to call me names!
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Frustrated? Who, me? Not at all dear boy! If you don't want to answer any questions, that's all right with me. I never use my position as moderator to do anything so personal as to respond to you! Or hadn't you noticed that by now? Eric The(Edited)Hun[>]:)]
Link Posted: 1/30/2002 11:27:06 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Minman72: Can't we allll just get along?? [@:D]
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Sure we can! I actually like Eric (the respect my AUTHORITEE) Cartman/Hun. Guess I'll just have to not disagree with anything he says! 'Cause he might "stroke-out" on us! [:P] DaMan
Link Posted: 1/30/2002 11:46:52 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/30/2002 11:47:34 AM EDT by deadeye47]
Will the last ally (that we've given Billions to) that hasn't shit on us please turn out the light after you flush please.......
Link Posted: 1/30/2002 12:02:28 PM EDT
Post from DaMan -
I actually like Eric (the respect my AUTHORITEE) Cartman/Hun.
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You're a good egg yourself, [u]when[/u] you're not questioning my patriotism, or calling me a 'sh|thouse lawyer' (you see how long Huns' remember stuff!).
Guess I'll just have to not disagree with anything he says!
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That's the spirit![:D] Eric The(Friendly,Forgiving,Apologetic)Hun[>]:)]
Link Posted: 1/30/2002 1:55:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/30/2002 2:36:29 PM EDT by 5subslr5]
Eric The(Friendly,Forgiving,Apologetic)Hun[>]:)][/quote] ------------------------------------------------ Something for the archives !!!!
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