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Posted: 1/29/2002 4:20:58 PM EDT
[#1]
So, would you sell him the gun?
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Posted: 1/29/2002 4:22:39 PM EDT
[#2]
Sounds like a man who needs a RG-14 or a Clerke 1st model...
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Posted: 1/29/2002 4:22:57 PM EDT
[#3]
Too bad they let mental defectives in the union. Didn't used to be that way.
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Posted: 1/29/2002 4:26:09 PM EDT
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Too bad they let mental defectives in the union. Didn't used to be that way. I think as long as you are a socialist it does not matter what your mental state is when getting into a union. |
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Posted: 1/29/2002 4:27:29 PM EDT
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Quoted: So, would you sell him the gun? Didn't have what he was looking for besides, Big Bob my local pundit was on him like stink on shit all the way out the door. his best quote "Well Nixon was impeached!" |
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Posted: 1/29/2002 4:27:56 PM EDT
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Did you take him over to the corner and show him a nice $1200 Lorcin? |
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Posted: 1/29/2002 4:34:38 PM EDT
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feed him the truth.
Convert him. He's probably been brainwashed by the local union pinko-commie libs. |
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Posted: 1/29/2002 4:51:35 PM EDT
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Feel sorry for him, do not shun him. If he is an example of the Unionists that I have met he has adopted this belief as his defacto religion and believes whatever the local pres tells him as surely as Our friend Garandman believes in his version of the bible. He does not associate liberal causes with anti gun causes, just was not mentioned by the high priest of the union boss. He truly believes what he said not because he looked up from his beer to pay attention to the news but because he was told to by the high priest of Unionism. The union is mother, the union is father, do as the union commands and ye shall come to no harm.
Think I'm joking, I lived in heavy union country for 3 years and this is an accurate reflection. |
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Posted: 1/29/2002 4:53:01 PM EDT
[#9]
Bitch Slap the MoFo.
And give him another good bitch slapping for being a socialist to boot. |
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Posted: 1/29/2002 5:01:51 PM EDT
[#10]
Tell him I have 109 rounds of IMI 7.62 I want to sell him for REAL cheap. Yeah, it's headstamped "TZ 80."
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Posted: 1/29/2002 5:02:06 PM EDT
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I have read a lot things on this board.
I have learned recipes for Cordon blu. I have learned to appreciate fine, and not so fine, art. I have learned how to disassemble and re-assemble and AR-15, and practically any other firearm known to man here at this site. I have even learned rudimentary Latin. But the best advice I have ever heard just came from hielo. |
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Posted: 1/29/2002 5:02:37 PM EDT
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Quoted: Feel sorry for him, do not shun him. If he is an example of the Unionists that I have met he has adopted this belief as his defacto religion and believes whatever the local pres tells him as surely as Our friend Garandman believes in his version of the bible. He does not associate liberal causes with anti gun causes, just was not mentioned by the high priest of the union boss. He truly believes what he said not because he looked up from his beer to pay attention to the news but because he was told to by the high priest of Unionism. The union is mother, the union is father, do as the union commands and ye shall come to no harm. Think I'm joking, I lived in heavy union country for 3 years and this is an accurate reflection. Nah, it's probably just that everyone from Ohio, whether a union member or not, is an utterly retarded backwoods inbreeder. Ain't stereotypes grand? [:)] |
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Posted: 1/29/2002 5:12:47 PM EDT
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Boomer:
Perhaps it is different where you are from. I however base my beliefs not on stereotype but on widespread observation. I have watched many good people make decisions that cost them their homes, savings, families, and ultimately their lives based on the say so of the union boss. I am totally anti union and make no appologies to anyone for it. If I thought that unions truly acted in the best interests of the members I would probably not feel so strongly. In one ten month strike I watched people lose it all including three suicides in our city. What was the outcome of the strike, Union settled for the same offer that the company had put forward on the first day of negotiation. The purpose of the ten month standoff, to better position the international to deal with LTV steel. The end result. Both companies have now closed their doors, and all of the good little unionists are out of work and running out of unemployment. Inbreeding in Ohio you say, I would have expected a better reply from the left coast. |
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Posted: 1/29/2002 5:21:49 PM EDT
[#14]
If he comes back, you should sell him a gun with something lodged in the barrel.
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Posted: 1/29/2002 5:27:32 PM EDT
[#15]
Did you asks him how he managed to wander that far away from the rest of the sheep herd?
Damn, talk about a fish out of water, he must have been 50 miles from the nearest liberl. I gotta come down and check out your shop one of these Saturdays. Yeah Yeah, I'll bring the Visa card. |
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Posted: 1/29/2002 5:45:17 PM EDT
[#16]
For God's sake (and yours) [b]DON'T[/b] sell him a gun until he shows some signs of responsibility and intelligence.
The LAST thing the country needs is armed idiot liberals. |
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Posted: 1/29/2002 5:50:41 PM EDT
[#17]
OK then ,how do you explain me then?
I'm a 3rd generation UNION Steamfitter,I own PLENTY of guns,I'm a REPUBLICAN CONSERVATIVE, I VOTE TOO!!NRA member,Navy vet(Desert Storm)and I'm a pro-constitutional rights advocate. OBVIOUSLY NONE of you are union,AND, I probably make 3 times the money you all make anyway.(you all probably think I am over paid too) I make a good honest living and take care of my family working union.I was raised this way and I see nothing wrong with making a good living for my family and not to live in poverty as you all would have me do (if you had it YOUR way) [removed additional personal attack - Paul] UNION,WE DO IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME!!!!! |
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Posted: 1/29/2002 6:02:31 PM EDT
[#18]
DAYUM, John, you should't be so bashful!
Why dont'cha just tell us how ya really feel? [:D] BS |
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Posted: 1/29/2002 6:03:46 PM EDT
[#19]
Quoted: OK then ,how do you explain me then? I'm a 3rd generation UNION Steamfitter,I own PLENTY of guns,I'm a REPUBLICAN CONSERVATIVE, I VOTE TOO!!NRA member,Navy vet(Desert Storm)and I'm a pro-constitutional rights advocate. OBVIOUSLY NONE of you are union,AND, I probably make 3 times the money you all make anyway.(you all probably think I am over paid too) I make a good honest living and take care of my family working union.I was raised this way and I see nothing wrong with making a good living for my family and not to live in poverty as you all would have me do (if you had it YOUR way) [removed personal attack - Paul] UNION,WE DO IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME!!!!! YO! Mac-Daddy! I'm a union member too. Quit jumping to conclusions about people you don't know, and lighten up. |
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Posted: 1/29/2002 6:06:02 PM EDT
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MAC-DADDY
Chill out. We all like you. We just don't like the unions taking your hard earned union dues and giving it to the liberals. The unions were the 2nd largest contributor to Gore's campain. We also don't like union members who are not as smart as you. Ones that support the union liberal views over their own conservative values. We are glad to have you on our side. When the liberals who are funded by union dues come to take our guns away we know you will stand with us. Heck, with the values you have you might even sue the union leadership to prevent them from giving your hard earned money to our enemies. |
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Posted: 1/29/2002 6:13:05 PM EDT
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HEY ,MY WHOLE FAMILY IS UNION.NONE ARE MENTALY
CHALLENGED......... and DnPRK started union bashing and i felt like putting him in his place I apoligize too my friends for my foul conduct sorry all |
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Posted: 1/29/2002 6:19:22 PM EDT
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Quoted: Boomer: Perhaps it is different where you are from. I however base my beliefs not on stereotype but on widespread observation. I have watched many good people make decisions that cost them their homes, savings, families, and ultimately their lives based on the say so of the union boss. I am totally anti union and make no appologies to anyone for it. If I thought that unions truly acted in the best interests of the members I would probably not feel so strongly. In one ten month strike I watched people lose it all including three suicides in our city. What was the outcome of the strike, Union settled for the same offer that the company had put forward on the first day of negotiation. The purpose of the ten month standoff, to better position the international to deal with LTV steel. The end result. Both companies have now closed their doors, and all of the good little unionists are out of work and running out of unemployment. Yeah, I'm sure your sampling is just huge. And gee whiz, why don't we pick out a few worst case scenarios to hold up as typical occurances? You probably don't like it when the media finds some nutball, psycho, or pot bellied redneck to depict as the typical gun owner yet you can turn around use similar tactics against union members. Strikes have done me and my family far more good than harm. Maybe you're just one of those types who would rather cut and run when the going gets rough instead of standing up for yourself and fighting for what you have and what you believe in. |
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Posted: 1/29/2002 6:20:50 PM EDT
[#23]
Quoted: OK then ,how do you explain me then? I'm a 3rd generation UNION Steamfitter,I own PLENTY of guns,I'm a REPUBLICAN CONSERVATIVE, I VOTE TOO!!NRA member,Navy vet(Desert Storm)and I'm a pro-constitutional rights advocate. OBVIOUSLY NONE of you are union,AND, I probably make 3 times the money you all make anyway.(you all probably think I am over paid too) I make a good honest living and take care of my family working union.I was raised this way and I see nothing wrong with making a good living for my family and not to live in poverty as you all would have me do (if you had it YOUR way) [removed personal attack - Paul] UNION,WE DO IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME!!!!! Amen! |
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Posted: 1/29/2002 6:23:26 PM EDT
[#24]
He needs one of these.
[url]http://www.joke-a-week.com/HilariousStuff/polishpistol.htm[/url] |
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Posted: 1/29/2002 6:24:06 PM EDT
[#25]
Quoted: Too bad they let mental defectives in the union. Didn't used to be that way. Mac-Daddy, please re-read his post. He said it is too bad they let mental defectives in, not that all people in unions are mentally defective. If you are active (attend meetings) you must know that most unions are virulently leftist to the point of being communist. Very little that they embrace fits in with beliefs held by those on this board. Please be careful before you explode. It is important for gun owners to get along and play nice with one another. [:D] |
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Posted: 1/29/2002 6:24:22 PM EDT
[#26]
TY BOOMER AND FLASH66 Y'ALL ARE GOOD FOLKS
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Posted: 1/29/2002 6:27:36 PM EDT
[#27]
Well 1Gunrunner ,since you've actually run into a Unionist liberal you must be in Seattle . For those not living in WA Seattle its where we banish all liberals to in this state . I can't remember when I ever run across a liberal in a gun store ... ever .
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Posted: 1/29/2002 6:34:39 PM EDT
[#28]
Yeah, what do you think there are more of in Seattle, liberal union members or liberal non-union members?
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Posted: 1/29/2002 6:41:11 PM EDT
[#29]
Quoted: Very little that they embrace fits in with beliefs held by those on this board. Bullshit. Or do mean that you don't believe in 40 hour work weeks, livable wages, overtime pay, health care benefits, paid vacation, some semblence of job security, safe work environments, employer accountability, etc? If so, then [i][b]I[/b][/i] believe that you will find yourself in a very small, lonely group. Yes indeed. By the way, are you a member of the NRA? If so, why? I thought you didn't "embrace" the idea of speaking collectively..... |
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Posted: 1/29/2002 6:41:23 PM EDT
[#30]
Thats all you'll ever get from a union(commie) man.
If he knew the truth he would not be a union guy now would he. |
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Posted: 1/29/2002 6:42:47 PM EDT
[#31]
Quoted: Thats all you'll ever get from a union(commie) man. If he knew the truth he would not be a union guy now would he. Yeah, we might be flipping burgers at McDonald's with you. |
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Posted: 1/29/2002 6:43:08 PM EDT
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Boomer
Not much difference it is? I work at Hanford with many union members. I see these guys at the gun shows and they have Bush stickers on their pickups. It is hard to get into a discussion with them because we all are in agreement. HOWEVER, when I bring up the union support issues of liberal causes it gets mighty quite. I guess the good news is that we really have their support on the things that matter. |
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Posted: 1/29/2002 6:48:53 PM EDT
[#33]
Quoted: Feel sorry for him, do not shun him. i too have lived the 'union experience'.[BD] pay no attention to the man behind the curtain, he means well, but that unionist cannot be saved (too many ohms, not enough watts).[:O)] do as heilo says, then shun him. |
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Posted: 1/29/2002 6:52:02 PM EDT
[#34]
Just exactly what DO you do smarty pants?
(pick one) a.sack groceries? b.flip burgers? c.live off of the rest of us (welfare) |
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Posted: 1/29/2002 6:56:23 PM EDT
[#35]
Well I guess I will (possibly unwisely) chime in here.
International Union Of Operating Engineers member. Guess what? I think their politics are for shit. I own a few guns, I hunt, I belong to several gun and/or hunting organizations, and vote republican. I am our steward and I dont hide my political beliefs when dealing with the union. If they dont like it, tough. The only reason I am in the union is that it is a requirement of my employment. I wish I had the schooling to do it another way but I don't. I really fail to understand why so many of you seem to be so hateful of us that are in unions. Whenever the topic comes up it seems like we are hated as bad as the Antis hate you. Does the fact that I make fair money in any way affect your quality of life? Should I not be allowed to have decent health care or retirement? For those of you who can do so good outside of a union, I commend you. Please don't think that because some of us are in a union that we follow the party line. In some areas it is the only way to make a living without a college education. I will never attain the quality of life many members here have but hey, I am making a living instead of leaching off the system. Lumpy(disapointed in some of my shooting brothers)223 |
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Posted: 1/29/2002 6:57:26 PM EDT
[#36]
Quoted: Quoted: Very little that they embrace fits in with beliefs held by those on this board. Bullshit. Or do mean that you don't believe in 40 hour work weeks, livable wages, overtime pay, health care benefits, paid vacation, some semblence of job security, safe work environments, employer accountability, etc? If so, then [i][b]I[/b][/i] believe that you will find yourself in a very small, lonely group. Yes indeed. By the way, are you a member of the NRA? If so, why? I thought you didn't "embrace" the idea of speaking collectively..... I usually don't engage in pissing matches on this board, as I prefer to get along with fellow gun owners. BUT, you touched a nerve, in a most abrasive manner. I believe in the various things you listed, and I am knowledgeable enough of history to know unions played a major role in obtaining them--60 or so years ago. Then the unions were taken over by card-carrying communists and started moving the country to collectivism/statism/socialism to the detriment of all of us. Unions have outlived their usefulness to society. Most union members these days are government employees. If you wish to belong to one, more power to you, I have no problem with that. If you seriously believe the union is doing you a ton of good, then you are either delusional, a slackard/drunk, or other type who couldn't hold a job without the union protecting you. I've seen it. I hold a withdrawal card from the AFL-CIO from my high school grocery store job. I have held my present job for nearly 24 years, beginning at age 19, through my hard work, excellent work record, and making myself valuable to my company. It is a classic symbiosis that allows the company to be profitable, and me to hold a well-paying job with excellent benefits. BTW, my company making a profit does not (to me) mean they are exploiting the proletariat. LOL P.S.: If you wish to know my NRA membership status I would refer you to the tacked thread. You are attempting to make a silly analogy between NRA membership and union membership. Please be serious when attempting to address adults as you are making yourself look juvenile. |
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Posted: 1/29/2002 6:57:55 PM EDT
[#37]
I never had to rely on anyone to hold my job for me. Never been fired in my life. Never asked someone to get my job back. Never filed a complaint. Never counted on someone else to get my raise for me. Never filed for unemployment. Never been on welfare. Never turned down a job because I made more on the last one I had. Never went to a steward for anything. Never needed a steward for that matter. Is that guy working? Is he contributing to the bottom line? Never needed a herd to keep me safe. Never gave a dime to a liberal cause, pre-tax or otherwise. Dues are for gun clubs. Unions are the apex of the peter principle, sheeple style.
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Posted: 1/29/2002 7:01:50 PM EDT
[#38]
Quoted: I never had to rely on anyone to hold my job for me. Never been fired in my life. Never asked someone to get my job back. Never filed a complaint. Never counted on someone else to get my raise for me. Never filed for unemployment. Never been on welfare. Never turned down a job because I made more on the last one I had. Never went to a steward for anything. Never needed a steward for that matter. Is that guy working? Is he contributing to the bottom line? Never needed a herd to keep me safe. Never gave a dime to a liberal cause, pre-tax or otherwise. Dues are for gun clubs. Unions are the apex of the peter principle, sheeple style. -elliott [/game on] Ditto what Elliot said- and to answer MAC-DADDY about my situation, I'm a Digital Imaging tech for a photography studio-and we have no union. You see, I have these things called "marketable skills" that I use to keep my job(and my pay rate high, for a college kid). So does everyone else who works here-sorry to hear about your situation, though. Those who can...do! Those who can't...join a Union! Juggernaut |
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Posted: 1/29/2002 7:03:08 PM EDT
[#39]
He was probably looking for a Heckler und Koch.
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Posted: 1/29/2002 7:05:55 PM EDT
[#40]
Quoted: Guess what? I think their politics are for shit. I own a few guns, I hunt, I belong to several gun and/or hunting organizations, and vote republican. I am our steward and I dont hide my political beliefs when dealing with the union. If they dont like it, tough. The only reason I am in the union is that it is a requirement of my employment. Lumpy, I deleted some of your post and kept the pertinent parts. You are the exception within most unions. Certainly no one here would fault you in any way. It is the leftists who are our enemy, many of whom belong to unions. Teachers unions have been complicit in "dumbing down" Americans to the point most under age 30 can't spell "shit" when they take one. Please don't feel assaulted here--you are a valuable member. I hope you live a good life, work hard, retire healthy, and enjoy the shooting sports. Union or not, it's all about the same stuff. Best wishes! [beer] |
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Posted: 1/29/2002 7:15:43 PM EDT
[#41]
Quoted: I never had to rely on anyone to hold my job for me. Never been fired in my life. Never asked someone to get my job back. Never filed a complaint. Never counted on someone else to get my raise for me. Never filed for unemployment. Never been on welfare. Never turned down a job because I made more on the last one I had. Never went to a steward for anything. Never needed a steward for that matter. Is that guy working? Is he contributing to the bottom line? Never needed a herd to keep me safe. Never gave a dime to a liberal cause, pre-tax or otherwise. Dues are for gun clubs. Unions are the apex of the peter principle, sheeple style. -elliott [/game on] elliot, I've been in the union for 13 years and MOST of the men I work with work thier ASS OFF I am definetly(sic)NOT a f**king sheep!!! BTW, Unions MAKE non-union companies pay more money so you have UNIONS to thank for your GOOD pay.DO YOU ACUALLY BELIEVE YOUR COMPANY PAYS YOU WHAT THEY THINK YOU ARE WORTH? YOU WOULD BE MAKING A DOLLAR A WEEK IF IT WAS UP TO THEM!! WAKE UP D**KHEAD |
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Posted: 1/29/2002 7:18:39 PM EDT
[#42]
I will clarify my position.
I know many union members who are and were wonderful people. It is obvious from Boomer's attack that he is not familiar with the Steel, UAW, or other unions in the rust belt. I despise unions. A union member does not a unionist make but unions thrive because of unionists. I have seen the union hall rock with the fervor of a shaker meeting house and I have seen the factories close because it was simply cheaper to go out of business than cave to extortion. I am not opposed to people making a decent living have good working conditions and well, job security is really window dressing at best under any conditions. I note that in the place of the previous union facilities new owners opened non union shops and guess what, the workers got the same pay as before, and no union dues. They also got 401k stock ownership plans and a say in the operation. The union facilities are gone and peoples lives are ruined. I cannot speak to your experience but I will say that if I owned a manufacturing facility I would treat my employees fairly, as I always have. I would pay a competitive wage and would expect maximum performance encourage employees to join savings plans and provide the same health benefits to line workers and management. If that was not good enough and my employees felt they needed a union I would simply choose to go out of business and liquidate my assets. |
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Posted: 1/29/2002 7:21:37 PM EDT
[#43]
OK lets put an end to this. We should not be fighting amoung ourselves. When we go to the shooting range we don't care if the guy next to us is union or not. Our common interest far out weighs our differences. Lets fight the liberals and anti-gunners, not each other! Lets welcome the union people as our brothers.
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Posted: 1/29/2002 7:23:24 PM EDT
[#44]
thebeekeeper1 wrote:
It is the leftists who are our enemy Thanks. The only change I would make to the above statement would be to emphasize the word "[b]our[/b]". |
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Posted: 1/29/2002 7:23:45 PM EDT
[#45]
Quoted: OK lets put an end to this. We should not be fighting amoung ourselves. When we go to the shooting range we don't care if the guy next to us is union or not. Our common interest far out weighs our differences. Lets fight the liberals and anti-gunners, not each other! Lets welcome the union people as our brothers. [ /quote] AMEN TO THAT!! |
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Posted: 1/29/2002 7:25:19 PM EDT
[#46]
mac daddy testify brother ! 3rd generation union man myself ,plumbers and pipfitters local 430 tulsa,oklahoma. we do it right the first time . any time the bashing of unions start i just have to get in the mix ,some jealous dickhead starts crying commie. than tells how he is doing good without union support. i dont know lets put it down on the board to see what good wages are. here in tulsa that wage would be 21.45 an hour plus around 8.00 dollars in benefits.how good is the union bashers wages?
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Posted: 1/29/2002 7:25:49 PM EDT
[#47]
Quoted: I know many union members who are and were wonderful people. It is obvious from Boomer's attack that he is not familiar with the Steel, UAW, or other unions in the rust belt. I despise unions. A union member does not a unionist make but unions thrive because of unionists. I have seen the union hall rock with the fervor of a shaker meeting house and I have seen the factories close because it was simply cheaper to go out of business than cave to extortion. I am not opposed to people making a decent living have good working conditions and well, job security is really window dressing at best under any conditions. I live a few blocks from the Firestone plant in Decatur, Illinois. The union just got their wish Dec. 27. They called for a boycot of Firestone tires, it worked, the company closed the plant down, ending the jobs of 2,400 workers, mostly union. Boycot the company we work for, and we're too stupid to realize they won't need us to build tires no one is buying. Real freaking smart. [rolleyes] Next union rant I will tell the story of the A.E. Staley company and Caterpillar in the same town. Pretty much the same story, although Staley is doing good now sans union. Archer Daniels Midland (ADM) too. |
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Posted: 1/29/2002 7:25:59 PM EDT
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Now, now - not all us union folks are backwards Liberals...
Teamsters #665 - come from a mainly USW family. All of us are Libertarian in bent, mostly firearms owners (my mother likes swords and bows) and NONE of us are afraid to defend ourselves - because we know we're the only ones who are really ready to do it... Causes I advocate - Radical restructuring of welfare - change from a lifetime programme to a crutch, include trade school and make it a timed programme (eligible two years out of five, perhaps.) Abolition of the Federal Income Tax, replace with a National Retail Sales Tax (perhaps 5-7%.) Concomitant restructuring of the Federal Goverment to accomodate the reduced Federal intake. Unlimited concealed carry per Vermont, extended under "Privileges and Immunities" clause in the COnstitution. Ban of NFA34, 89 Ban, and the assorted later Crime Bills. Introduction of a comprehensive holistic health plan to help reduce or eliminate the dependence upon the pharmaceutical industry - at ALL ages. Elimination or full privatisation of Social Security. Elimination of the widespread use of the SSAN as an identifier. Tie in with above, run SS Programme as originally concieved (programme was to run for five years.) I have some others, but I need to flesh them all out... FFZ |
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Posted: 1/29/2002 7:28:44 PM EDT
[#49]
Hey MAC,
I make "high five" figures a year because I am valuable. Not because bubba over there said so. You see, the president of the company values my time, not my steward. The president signs the checks, not the steward. The president is watching the bottom line of the company. The steward is looking at his botom line. In the steward's eyes you fall in somewhere below that, no matter what he/she tells you. -elliott |
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Posted: 1/29/2002 7:36:59 PM EDT
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Steelworkers Union member here chiming in...
I guess the beauty of a union is all in the eye of the beholder... I am now unemployed because our union protected the lazy and the unqualified... I was laid-off last week, losing my job to another based SOLELY on length of employment... Didn't matter that I could run circles around this guy... Meant a few dollars an hour raise for my replacement, and unemployment compensation for me... What a great service these unions provide... Now the whole company is going down the tubes, thanks to all the old, lazy, union protected non-productive freeloaders... They are only there to put thier hours in & collect thier union protected paychecks... Good for the union, they will have successfully run another company into the ground... HOORAY FOR THE UNION !!! [rolleyes] There you go Gunrunner...reply #50 puts you in the "hot topic hall of fame" [:D] |
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