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Posted: 1/29/2002 4:17:45 PM EDT
Our first clue was asking him if he would be watching the State of the Union. He stated he wasn't because he couldn't stand to look at the man. The long of the short was his man Gore had the election stolen from him. He was asking about a gun and when I questioned him about being a gun carrying liberal; his response was that the democrats had came to his door asking for his guns. He didn't know that Klinton had been impeached; He thinks when it comes out that Bush made millions on Enron his party will be vindicated. The Republicans have plunged the economy into a near depression, and welfare is a good program. BTW he is a union electrician and his wife works at a college.
Link Posted: 1/29/2002 4:20:58 PM EDT
So, would you sell him the gun?
Link Posted: 1/29/2002 4:22:39 PM EDT
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Sounds like a man who needs a RG-14 or a Clerke 1st model...
Link Posted: 1/29/2002 4:22:57 PM EDT
Too bad they let mental defectives in the union. Didn't used to be that way.
Link Posted: 1/29/2002 4:26:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/29/2002 4:26:39 PM EDT by ar15bubba]
Too bad they let mental defectives in the union. Didn't used to be that way.
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I think as long as you are a socialist it does not matter what your mental state is when getting into a union.
Link Posted: 1/29/2002 4:27:29 PM EDT
Originally Posted By DScott: So, would you sell him the gun?
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Didn't have what he was looking for besides, Big Bob my local pundit was on him like stink on shit all the way out the door. his best quote "Well Nixon was impeached!"
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feed him the truth. Convert him. He's probably been brainwashed by the local union pinko-commie libs.
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Bitch Slap the MoFo. And give him another good bitch slapping for being a socialist to boot.
Link Posted: 1/29/2002 5:01:51 PM EDT
Tell him I have 109 rounds of IMI 7.62 I want to sell him for REAL cheap. Yeah, it's headstamped "TZ 80."
Link Posted: 1/29/2002 5:02:06 PM EDT
I have read a lot things on this board. I have learned recipes for Cordon blu. I have learned to appreciate fine, and not so fine, art. I have learned how to disassemble and re-assemble and AR-15, and practically any other firearm known to man here at this site. I have even learned rudimentary Latin. But the best advice I have ever heard just came from hielo.
Link Posted: 1/29/2002 5:02:37 PM EDT
Originally Posted By shotar: Feel sorry for him, do not shun him. If he is an example of the Unionists that I have met he has adopted this belief as his defacto religion and believes whatever the local pres tells him as surely as Our friend Garandman believes in his version of the bible. He does not associate liberal causes with anti gun causes, just was not mentioned by the high priest of the union boss. He truly believes what he said not because he looked up from his beer to pay attention to the news but because he was told to by the high priest of Unionism. The union is mother, the union is father, do as the union commands and ye shall come to no harm. Think I'm joking, I lived in heavy union country for 3 years and this is an accurate reflection.
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Nah, it's probably just that everyone from Ohio, whether a union member or not, is an utterly retarded backwoods inbreeder. Ain't stereotypes grand? [:)]
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If he comes back, you should sell him a gun with something lodged in the barrel.
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OK then ,how do you explain me then? I'm a 3rd generation UNION Steamfitter,I own PLENTY of guns,I'm a REPUBLICAN CONSERVATIVE, I VOTE TOO!!NRA member,Navy vet(Desert Storm)and I'm a pro-constitutional rights advocate. OBVIOUSLY NONE of you are union,AND, I probably make 3 times the money you all make anyway.(you all probably think I am over paid too) I make a good honest living and take care of my family working union.I was raised this way and I see nothing wrong with making a good living for my family and not to live in poverty as you all would have me do (if you had it YOUR way) [removed additional personal attack - Paul] UNION,WE DO IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME!!!!!
Link Posted: 1/29/2002 6:02:31 PM EDT
DAYUM, John, you should't be so bashful! Why dont'cha just tell us how ya really feel? [:D] BS
Link Posted: 1/29/2002 6:03:46 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/29/2002 6:06:02 PM EDT
MAC-DADDY Chill out. We all like you. We just don't like the unions taking your hard earned union dues and giving it to the liberals. The unions were the 2nd largest contributor to Gore's campain. We also don't like union members who are not as smart as you. Ones that support the union liberal views over their own conservative values. We are glad to have you on our side. When the liberals who are funded by union dues come to take our guns away we know you will stand with us. Heck, with the values you have you might even sue the union leadership to prevent them from giving your hard earned money to our enemies.
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HEY ,MY WHOLE FAMILY IS UNION.NONE ARE MENTALY CHALLENGED......... and DnPRK started union bashing and i felt like putting him in his place I apoligize too my friends for my foul conduct sorry all
Link Posted: 1/29/2002 6:19:22 PM EDT
Originally Posted By shotar: Boomer: Perhaps it is different where you are from. I however base my beliefs not on stereotype but on widespread observation. I have watched many good people make decisions that cost them their homes, savings, families, and ultimately their lives based on the say so of the union boss. I am totally anti union and make no appologies to anyone for it. If I thought that unions truly acted in the best interests of the members I would probably not feel so strongly. In one ten month strike I watched people lose it all including three suicides in our city. What was the outcome of the strike, Union settled for the same offer that the company had put forward on the first day of negotiation. The purpose of the ten month standoff, to better position the international to deal with LTV steel. The end result. Both companies have now closed their doors, and all of the good little unionists are out of work and running out of unemployment.
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Yeah, I'm sure your sampling is just huge. And gee whiz, why don't we pick out a few worst case scenarios to hold up as typical occurances? You probably don't like it when the media finds some nutball, psycho, or pot bellied redneck to depict as the typical gun owner yet you can turn around use similar tactics against union members. Strikes have done me and my family far more good than harm. Maybe you're just one of those types who would rather cut and run when the going gets rough instead of standing up for yourself and fighting for what you have and what you believe in.
Link Posted: 1/29/2002 6:20:50 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MAC-DADDY: OK then ,how do you explain me then? I'm a 3rd generation UNION Steamfitter,I own PLENTY of guns,I'm a REPUBLICAN CONSERVATIVE, I VOTE TOO!!NRA member,Navy vet(Desert Storm)and I'm a pro-constitutional rights advocate. OBVIOUSLY NONE of you are union,AND, I probably make 3 times the money you all make anyway.(you all probably think I am over paid too) I make a good honest living and take care of my family working union.I was raised this way and I see nothing wrong with making a good living for my family and not to live in poverty as you all would have me do (if you had it YOUR way) [removed personal attack - Paul] UNION,WE DO IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME!!!!!
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Amen!
Link Posted: 1/29/2002 6:23:26 PM EDT
He needs one of these. [url]http://www.joke-a-week.com/HilariousStuff/polishpistol.htm[/url]
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TY BOOMER AND FLASH66 Y'ALL ARE GOOD FOLKS
Link Posted: 1/29/2002 6:27:36 PM EDT
Well 1Gunrunner ,since you've actually run into a Unionist liberal you must be in Seattle . For those not living in WA Seattle its where we banish all liberals to in this state . I can't remember when I ever run across a liberal in a gun store ... ever .
Link Posted: 1/29/2002 6:34:39 PM EDT
Yeah, what do you think there are more of in Seattle, liberal union members or liberal non-union members?
Link Posted: 1/29/2002 6:41:11 PM EDT
Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1: Very little that they embrace fits in with beliefs held by those on this board.
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Bullshit. Or do mean that you don't believe in 40 hour work weeks, livable wages, overtime pay, health care benefits, paid vacation, some semblence of job security, safe work environments, employer accountability, etc? If so, then [i][b]I[/b][/i] believe that you will find yourself in a very small, lonely group. Yes indeed. By the way, are you a member of the NRA? If so, why? I thought you didn't "embrace" the idea of speaking collectively.....
Link Posted: 1/29/2002 6:41:23 PM EDT
Thats all you'll ever get from a union(commie) man. If he knew the truth he would not be a union guy now would he.
Link Posted: 1/29/2002 6:42:47 PM EDT
Originally Posted By smarty_pants: Thats all you'll ever get from a union(commie) man. If he knew the truth he would not be a union guy now would he.
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Yeah, we might be flipping burgers at McDonald's with you.
Link Posted: 1/29/2002 6:43:08 PM EDT
Boomer Not much difference it is? I work at Hanford with many union members. I see these guys at the gun shows and they have Bush stickers on their pickups. It is hard to get into a discussion with them because we all are in agreement. HOWEVER, when I bring up the union support issues of liberal causes it gets mighty quite. I guess the good news is that we really have their support on the things that matter.
Link Posted: 1/29/2002 6:48:53 PM EDT
Originally Posted By shotar: Feel sorry for him, do not shun him.
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i too have lived the 'union experience'.[BD] pay no attention to the man behind the curtain, he means well, but that unionist cannot be saved (too many ohms, not enough watts).[:O)] do as heilo says, then shun him.
Link Posted: 1/29/2002 6:52:02 PM EDT
Just exactly what DO you do smarty pants? (pick one) a.sack groceries? b.flip burgers? c.live off of the rest of us (welfare)
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I never had to rely on anyone to hold my job for me. Never been fired in my life. Never asked someone to get my job back. Never filed a complaint. Never counted on someone else to get my raise for me. Never filed for unemployment. Never been on welfare. Never turned down a job because I made more on the last one I had. Never went to a steward for anything. Never needed a steward for that matter. Is that guy working? Is he contributing to the bottom line? Never needed a herd to keep me safe. Never gave a dime to a liberal cause, pre-tax or otherwise. Dues are for gun clubs. Unions are the apex of the peter principle, sheeple style. -elliott [/game on]
Link Posted: 1/29/2002 7:01:50 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By elliott: I never had to rely on anyone to hold my job for me. Never been fired in my life. Never asked someone to get my job back. Never filed a complaint. Never counted on someone else to get my raise for me. Never filed for unemployment. Never been on welfare. Never turned down a job because I made more on the last one I had. Never went to a steward for anything. Never needed a steward for that matter. Is that guy working? Is he contributing to the bottom line? Never needed a herd to keep me safe. Never gave a dime to a liberal cause, pre-tax or otherwise. Dues are for gun clubs. Unions are the apex of the peter principle, sheeple style. -elliott [/game on]
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Ditto what Elliot said- and to answer MAC-DADDY about my situation, I'm a Digital Imaging tech for a photography studio-and we have no union. You see, I have these things called "marketable skills" that I use to keep my job(and my pay rate high, for a college kid). So does everyone else who works here-sorry to hear about your situation, though. Those who can...do! Those who can't...join a Union! Juggernaut
Link Posted: 1/29/2002 7:03:08 PM EDT
He was probably looking for a Heckler und Koch.
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Originally Posted By elliott: I never had to rely on anyone to hold my job for me. Never been fired in my life. Never asked someone to get my job back. Never filed a complaint. Never counted on someone else to get my raise for me. Never filed for unemployment. Never been on welfare. Never turned down a job because I made more on the last one I had. Never went to a steward for anything. Never needed a steward for that matter. Is that guy working? Is he contributing to the bottom line? Never needed a herd to keep me safe. Never gave a dime to a liberal cause, pre-tax or otherwise. Dues are for gun clubs. Unions are the apex of the peter principle, sheeple style. -elliott [/game on]
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elliot, I've been in the union for 13 years and MOST of the men I work with work thier ASS OFF I am definetly(sic)NOT a f**king sheep!!! BTW, Unions MAKE non-union companies pay more money so you have UNIONS to thank for your GOOD pay.DO YOU ACUALLY BELIEVE YOUR COMPANY PAYS YOU WHAT THEY THINK YOU ARE WORTH? YOU WOULD BE MAKING A DOLLAR A WEEK IF IT WAS UP TO THEM!! WAKE UP D**KHEAD
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OK lets put an end to this. We should not be fighting amoung ourselves. When we go to the shooting range we don't care if the guy next to us is union or not. Our common interest far out weighs our differences. Lets fight the liberals and anti-gunners, not each other! Lets welcome the union people as our brothers.
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Originally Posted By Flash66: OK lets put an end to this. We should not be fighting amoung ourselves. When we go to the shooting range we don't care if the guy next to us is union or not. Our common interest far out weighs our differences. Lets fight the liberals and anti-gunners, not each other! Lets welcome the union people as our brothers. [ /quote] AMEN TO THAT!!
Link Posted: 1/29/2002 7:25:19 PM EDT
mac daddy testify brother ! 3rd generation union man myself ,plumbers and pipfitters local 430 tulsa,oklahoma. we do it right the first time . any time the bashing of unions start i just have to get in the mix ,some jealous dickhead starts crying commie. than tells how he is doing good without union support. i dont know lets put it down on the board to see what good wages are. here in tulsa that wage would be 21.45 an hour plus around 8.00 dollars in benefits.how good is the union bashers wages?
Link Posted: 1/29/2002 7:25:49 PM EDT
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Now, now - not all us union folks are backwards Liberals... Teamsters #665 - come from a mainly USW family. All of us are Libertarian in bent, mostly firearms owners (my mother likes swords and bows) and NONE of us are afraid to defend ourselves - because we know we're the only ones who are really ready to do it... Causes I advocate - Radical restructuring of welfare - change from a lifetime programme to a crutch, include trade school and make it a timed programme (eligible two years out of five, perhaps.) Abolition of the Federal Income Tax, replace with a National Retail Sales Tax (perhaps 5-7%.) Concomitant restructuring of the Federal Goverment to accomodate the reduced Federal intake. Unlimited concealed carry per Vermont, extended under "Privileges and Immunities" clause in the COnstitution. Ban of NFA34, 89 Ban, and the assorted later Crime Bills. Introduction of a comprehensive holistic health plan to help reduce or eliminate the dependence upon the pharmaceutical industry - at ALL ages. Elimination or full privatisation of Social Security. Elimination of the widespread use of the SSAN as an identifier. Tie in with above, run SS Programme as originally concieved (programme was to run for five years.) I have some others, but I need to flesh them all out... FFZ
Link Posted: 1/29/2002 7:28:44 PM EDT
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Hey MAC, I make "high five" figures a year because I am valuable. Not because bubba over there said so. You see, the president of the company values my time, not my steward. The president signs the checks, not the steward. The president is watching the bottom line of the company. The steward is looking at his botom line. In the steward's eyes you fall in somewhere below that, no matter what he/she tells you. -elliott
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Steelworkers Union member here chiming in... I guess the beauty of a union is all in the eye of the beholder... I am now unemployed because our union protected the lazy and the unqualified... I was laid-off last week, losing my job to another based SOLELY on length of employment... Didn't matter that I could run circles around this guy... Meant a few dollars an hour raise for my replacement, and unemployment compensation for me... What a great service these unions provide... Now the whole company is going down the tubes, thanks to all the old, lazy, union protected non-productive freeloaders... They are only there to put thier hours in & collect thier union protected paychecks... Good for the union, they will have successfully run another company into the ground... HOORAY FOR THE UNION !!! [rolleyes] There you go Gunrunner...reply #50 puts you in the "hot topic hall of fame" [:D]
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