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Posted: 1/26/2002 7:13:19 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/26/2002 8:03:13 AM EDT by 5subslr5]
I spent a good time yesterday and last night attempting to determine if Walker still was an American citizen. From everything I can gather Johnny Walker remains an American citizen and as such is entitled to full protection under the constitution. This guy 'may' Walk ?? [X] Edited to add - the good old 'conspiracy' charges will probably stick.
Link Posted: 1/26/2002 7:37:48 AM EDT
yep he may 'walk', but I wonder how far?
Link Posted: 1/26/2002 7:44:46 AM EDT
Big deal. The guy's life aint worth a boot full of piss wheather he goes to jail or not.
Link Posted: 1/26/2002 8:14:30 AM EDT
Originally Posted By geezhound: Big deal. The guy's life aint worth a boot full of piss wheather he goes to jail or not.
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Agree, but sadly he's probably going to be able to sell his "story" for a book or movie deal and make a sh!tload of bucks
Link Posted: 1/26/2002 8:24:01 AM EDT
Originally Posted By xsquid:
Originally Posted By geezhound: Big deal. The guy's life aint worth a boot full of piss whether he goes to jail or not.
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Agree, but sadly he's probably going to be able to sell his "story" for a book or movie deal and make a sh!tload of bucks
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Former squid, Actually I hadn't thought of that angle but unfortunately you're right. Johnny Boy will get a book 'AND' movie deal. [X]
Link Posted: 1/26/2002 8:56:59 AM EDT
Originally Posted By 5subslr5:
Originally Posted By xsquid:
Originally Posted By geezhound: Big deal. The guy's life aint worth a boot full of piss whether he goes to jail or not.
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Agree, but sadly he's probably going to be able to sell his "story" for a book or movie deal and make a sh!tload of bucks
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Former squid, Actually I hadn't thought of that angle but unfortunately you're right. Johnny Boy will get a book 'AND' movie deal. [X]
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If he lives that long. If I were him, I'd find the quickest damn way out of this country. But then again if I were him, we wouldnt have this problem. Jumpin Johnny Jihad is one of the dumbest f@#4ing people on the planet.
Link Posted: 1/26/2002 9:04:23 AM EDT
In the interest of protecting his civil rights, I hope he is allowed to go free so that he may be treated to some American hospitality.
Link Posted: 1/26/2002 9:09:04 AM EDT
Walker and Enron get my vote for being the two most unimportant stories of the day. They're just distractions so the American people forget that the "war" is not achieving any of its original goals.
Link Posted: 1/26/2002 9:18:10 AM EDT
Originally Posted By trickshot: Walker and Enron get my vote for being the two most unimportant stories of the day. They're just distractions so the American people forget that the "war" is not achieving any of its original goals.
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trickshot, forgetting Enron and Walker for the moment which original war goals are we not achieving ?
Link Posted: 1/26/2002 9:21:43 AM EDT
Originally Posted By geezhound: Big deal. The guy's life aint worth a boot full of piss wheather he goes to jail or not.
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g.hound, in jail I believe you're correct - Walker would be killed. I'm not trying to be funny here but prisoners do tend to be patriotic. If Walker walks ??
Link Posted: 1/26/2002 9:55:35 AM EDT
Simply because he 'may' not have renounced his American citizenship, that does not mean that he is free to take part in a criminal conspiracy to kill American military and government personnel. Let me try to remember, did the Branch Davidians renounce their American citizenship? No, but yet they were tried for basically the same thing! And you don't have to prove that 'Jihad' Johnny pulled a trigger, just that he was part of the conspiracy of others who did! I firmly believe that his confession will be upheld by the Courts. Even in the unlikely event that they're not, he still made more than enough incriminating statements to the press, which will be used against him in all likelihood. Eric The(EvenMoreIncensed'CauseHe'sAnAmerican)Hun[­>]:)]
Link Posted: 1/26/2002 10:16:26 AM EDT
* HOW TO LOSE CITIZENSHIP: It's almost impossible to lose U.S. citizenship without renouncing it in writing, and even then Uncle Sam may refuse. Only 612 people either renounced their citizenship or had it taken away in 1996, according to the INS. The number of people who have lost their citizenship during the 1990s has been only about a third as large as the number during the Vietnam War, when many young men renounced their citizenship to avoid the draft. The list of crimes he can be accused of goes up considerably when viewed in light of his citizenship. If he were not a citizen he would be in Cuba at worst and would likely be released after questioning. His role, as much as can be assumed was as a foot soldier in armed conflicts withing Afghanistan. He was not leadership in Taliban or Al-quaeda. His knowledge of terrorist actions seem to be after the fact. Should have just left him in Afghanistan. He is just a red herring the Dems and bed-wetters will agonize over. It's hard to stress how unimportant he really is but we have chosen the correct path of justice and hopefully the "rocket docket" court in VA will expedite the matter. He is a pimple on an elephant's ass.
Link Posted: 1/26/2002 10:40:44 AM EDT
As I've continuously said since it happened - why take the POS out of Afghanistan in the first place? The State Department could just have referred all questions to the new Afghan government and indicated that it will be 'up to his captors to establish his true identity.' That way the Walker and Lindh family would be spending all of their money traveling to Kabul instead of paying for well-heeled lawyers! 'Oops, better hurry Mom and Dad, I'm supposed to make an appearance at the soccer stadium next week and they've already told me no soccer games are schduled anytime soon!' - Your Traitorous Son, 'Jihad' Johnny Eric The(PlayBall!)Hun[>]:)]
Link Posted: 1/26/2002 11:06:55 AM EDT
This guy is pretty acerbic. Family Trouble The mediaÕs big gay secret. [url]www.nationalreview.com/goldberg/goldberg012502.shtml [/url] January 25, 2002 4:50 p.m. Long-time readers of this column may recall that I'm a big believer in the "looking for trouble" school of justice (See, Restoring the Hidden Law, for example). If you climb over a zoo fence in order to see if it bothers a polar bear when you kick him in the gizatz, I won't feel particularly sorry for you when he uses you as a loofah.
Link Posted: 1/26/2002 12:04:43 PM EDT
Originally Posted By 5subslr5:
Originally Posted By trickshot: Walker and Enron get my vote for being the two most unimportant stories of the day. They're just distractions so the American people forget that the "war" is not achieving any of its original goals.
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trickshot, forgetting Enron and Walker for the moment which original war goals are we not achieving ?
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Have you ever noticed that trickshot never answers when someone questions him about his statements? Lots of criticism from him, but no answers.
Link Posted: 1/26/2002 12:17:03 PM EDT
OK here is a thought? What if the survivors of the WTC, sued him for his part? That his meeting with OBL and being involved with Al Queada, caused them losses? Sort of the OJ civil suit.
Link Posted: 1/26/2002 12:21:42 PM EDT
Who cares, the boy is a dead man walking in or out of jail. His days are numbered no matter where he is. [beer]
Link Posted: 1/26/2002 12:28:03 PM EDT
If anyone saw the Fox News Channel the other night (Wed?), their retired SF expert with the goatee, Major Bob Bellacquva(sp?), stated," Why did they bother taking him alive? That problem could`ve been solved with a full magazine and good sight alignment." I nearly laughed myself silly. Even Laurie Dhue, the anchor, said to the liberal defense attorney present, " He`s basically toast isn`t he?" Is that great TV or what?
Link Posted: 1/26/2002 1:03:31 PM EDT
Originally Posted By LARRYG:
Originally Posted By 5subslr5:
Originally Posted By trickshot: Walker and Enron get my vote for being the two most unimportant stories of the day. They're just distractions so the American people forget that the "war" is not achieving any of its original goals.
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trickshot, forgetting Enron and Walker for the moment which original war goals are we not achieving ?
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Have you ever noticed that trickshot never answers when someone questions him about his statements? Lots of criticism from him, but no answers.
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No I had not. But I'm beginning to get the idea now. [:D]
Link Posted: 1/26/2002 1:07:11 PM EDT
Originally Posted By TheWind: OK here is a thought? What if the survivors of the WTC, sued him for his part? That his meeting with OBL and being involved with Al Queada, caused them losses? Sort of the OJ civil suit.
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As you point out the criminal court jury let him walk but he was nailed solid in the the civil trial. (For one thing the rules of evidence being different.) If so, I hope the book and movie deal bring in lots of money for the victims families.
Link Posted: 1/26/2002 1:18:47 PM EDT
Originally Posted By EricTheHun: ... that does not mean that he is free to take part in a criminal conspiracy to kill American military and government personnel. Eric The(EvenMoreIncensed'CauseHe'sAnAmerican)Hun[­>]:)]
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E.T. Hun, I went back and added "probably conspiracy will stick" to my post after a little thought. No matter what I may think of the conspiracy laws (and I don't think much) maybe this time the conspiracy laws will prove useful - to America. (There have been several posts of late about Johnny Boy but I have been hesitant to respond until I could determine whether J. B. was still an American citizen if not an American.)
Link Posted: 1/26/2002 5:43:48 PM EDT
Face it the phuker is going to be RICH. Mega million bucks of tax payer money spent to prosicute the lil pecker head and millions paid to him for the book and movie rights! Corse that won't be comforting to him when he becomes some gorillas bitch inside.
Link Posted: 1/26/2002 5:48:03 PM EDT
Originally Posted By HighlandMac: Who cares, the boy is a dead man walking in or out of jail. His days are numbered no matter where he is. [beer]
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Link Posted: 1/26/2002 6:48:20 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/26/2002 6:58:16 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Aimless: I would be surprised if is confession does not end up in court. Apparently he knew of that there was some kind of planned suicide attack back in June. Also the televisions interviews are certainly coming into evidence. That doesn't look good for Johnny. Once in jail, not only does he have to worry about patriotic criminals, but also some inmates would kill him just for the fame of doing it. If he does get off the hook on the criminal charges I would assume he'd high tail it back to an arab/islamic country hostile to the US as he probably would not last long here, or have much of a life if he did leave. (Gee Mom I only got my ass kicked 42 times on the way to Blockbuster and back this time. I think people are starting to warm up to me!) Unfortunately there are parts of the world where being seen as a traitor to the US is favorable. Don't most states have laws that prohibit profiting from book movie rights if you are convicted of a crime? Also I suppose you could make some kind of claim that he was involved in a conspiracy that could result in some civil judgments against him, or at least keep him tied up paying for lawyers to defend lawsuits until the end of time.
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Aimless, I believe you are correct in that at least some states have laws addressing convicted criminals profiting from books and movies. Some one in an earlier reply mentioned the possibility of a civil trial. The judge in this trial will need the wisdom of Solomon but won't be so gifted. I'm just not sure what evidence will make it into trial. Still too many unknowns.
Link Posted: 1/26/2002 7:43:04 PM EDT
Originally Posted By HighlandMac: Who cares, the boy is a dead man walking in or out of jail. His days are numbered no matter where he is. [beer]
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We all fit that remark to one degree or another! I just hope Jihad Johnny's days are a lot fewer in number then ours!
Link Posted: 1/26/2002 8:00:45 PM EDT
Originally Posted By DPeacher:
Originally Posted By HighlandMac: His days are numbered no matter where he is. [beer]
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We all fit that remark to one degree or another!
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My favorite optimist is the person who says "Now "IF" I die........! [:D]
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