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Posted: 1/9/2002 12:50:20 PM EDT
From: [url]http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20020109/ts/food_stamps_1.html[/url] WASHINGTON (AP) - The Bush administration, seeking to reverse part of the 1996 welfare overhaul, on Wednesday proposed to restore food stamp benefits to 363,000 legal immigrants who have lived in the country for at least five years. Under current rules, adult immigrants must have worked in the country for at least 10 years or be a refugee or member of the military to qualify for benefits. There is no work requirement in the White House proposal, which will be part of President Bush (news - web sites)'s 2003 budget. A senior administration official who described the proposal on condition of anonymity said the change would go a long way toward meeting the needs of a number of children and adults. The Senate is considering revisions in farm and nutrition programs that would lower the existing work requirement for immigrants from 10 years to four years. Congressional Republicans have argued that a work or residency requirement is necessary to keep people from moving to the United States to take advantage of the welfare system. The administration's plan would cost $2.1 billion over 10 years. The White House has not said how it would pay for the proposal. The food-stamp program costs about $17 billion annually. Food stamp rolls fell from 25.5 million in 1996, when Congress overhauled the welfare system, to below 17 million early last year. By October, the number swelled to 18.4 million. [b][red][i]Libertas an Mortis![/b][/red][/i]
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Originally Posted By DarkHelmet: And they don't even use "Stamps" anymore... they have these fancy new-fangled ATM like cards to use..... it's supposed to help restore their dignity and make them feel good. [puke] PHUCK THAT!!! BRING BACK THE STAMPS!!! MAKE THEM BRIGHT COLORED and scrawl "I'M A LAZY BASTAGE" on the front of them!!!! I hope you feel like the lazy worthless bastage you are that is nothing more than a drain on our economy and a pain in the side of every hard working American. Don't get me wrong... I'm all for helping a person out when they are down. I'd be happy to. But when it becomes nothing but a hand out to a lazy, ten-kid-toting crack ho I get pissed off. Get a job and work like the rest of us!!!
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Damn right, make those lazy-assed bastards beg for food until they get a goddamned JOB! Bad move on the Bush admins part. THUMBS DOWN!
Link Posted: 1/9/2002 1:25:05 PM EDT
Careful guys! Believing that they should work and speak engrish will get you labeled a bigot! Or worse......insensitive! Freakin' food stamps, why would you want to EXPAND their use? When will ANYONE finally figure out that welfare/foodstamps is the biggest enslaver of the human spirit EVER??? Handouts kill the soul, period.
Link Posted: 1/9/2002 1:35:13 PM EDT
Originally Posted By DoubleFeed: I don't know about all the other states, but down here in Texas, we have a lot of trouble with Mexicans who pretend to not understand English. They use this to try and scam over sympathetic checkers at the grocery stores. There is a specified quantity of staples like milk and cereal they can get on the WIC card, and some of those people pretend to not understand you when you tell them they can't get that much. Most of them seem to be purposely scamming the system.
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Dude, you are 100% right. In high school, I worked in a grocery store in Austin bagging groceries. The amount of government aid flowing through that place was astounding. But what got me was that they would use the food stamps and WIC to pay for the bread and milk, and then have a separate order of candybars and several cases of beer. I also think there is a 10 kid/3 boyfriend minimum for each of those "ladies". And yes, they would sometimes invoke a language problem when it came to getting government money to pay for non-essentials. If I were so poor that I needed food stamps to pay for my 15 kids, I wouldn't be spending the rest of my money on beer and candy bars. Of course, I may be a little bitter because I was actually working for my money. [(:|)]
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Originally Posted By DoubleFeed: Where are you now, PoliticalScience?
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Lets see how happy you are when you have to share your chickens[:D] [:)>]
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Hey you guys don't expect non English speaking babyfactories to pay for their own food? Come on now and lets be nice. How would the Liberal Communists who want to take over this fine country ever get any votes if they made people work for a living. Don't you know that the Government in there to take care of us and protect us from all evil. We need them because we are too stupid to make our own choices in life. No, just kidding, but you better believe that lots of jokers out there think that way!! Welfare Bastards make me want to [puke]
Link Posted: 1/9/2002 2:51:51 PM EDT
Make the stamps be 6x6", hunter-orange and unbendable plastic and only in $1 and $2 denominations. Requiring the person to cry out "I am a lazy bastard who has no job, too many kids, smoke too much crack/crank/pot/drug of choice. I refuse to work because you pay for me to eat, sleep and have more kids, thanks to the socialists. Please vote democat in the next election so I will get even more of these cards for free each month." once for each card they are redeeming would take too long, so we'll add that later when the welfare rolls drop a little. Kharn
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Originally Posted By DoubleFeed: Where are you now, PoliticalScience?
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I've moved around a bit, but I'm back in the Austin area. [(:|)]
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Wonder why old W pulled a move like this I'm thinkin to get the poor lazy minority vote?
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Originally Posted By DoubleFeed: PS, which side of town?
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Check your mail. [(:|)]
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Originally Posted By DoubleFeed:
Originally Posted By Rudison:
Originally Posted By DoubleFeed: Where are you now, PoliticalScience?
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Lets see how happy you are when you have to share your chickens[:D] [:)>]
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You need to get right with God, or burn in hell. You are being tempted by Satan. If you loved God, you wouldn't be coveting my chickens. [0:)]
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Not me my brother, God showed me the light and now I am a 260 pound 6'5" vegitarian, I figure they can feed 2 or 3 families on my meat allotment. [:)>]
Link Posted: 1/9/2002 11:51:51 PM EDT
Hey I am from a hispanic background, and have absolutely no racist inclinations at all.....BUT here in Oregon, social programs for immigrants are basically bankrupting the state. There needs to be some real changes in immigration, how benefits are distributed, etc.....before anything will be solved. RW
Link Posted: 1/10/2002 1:21:03 AM EDT
Originally Posted By GNR Surplus: Hey I am from a hispanic background, and have absolutely no racist inclinations at all..... RW
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All the rest of you racists need to shut up and pay your taxes. 2009 is coming and we will need your money more than ever... What happens in 09, you ask? Why that is when YOU become the minority in the good Ole US of A. Have fun! A party is coming, and you are invited! [IMG]http://www.freakygamers.com/smilies/s2/contrib/aahmed/sad.gif[/IMG]
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I'm not racist either. I just call it as I see it. [(:|)]
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Originally Posted By ph119: Careful guys! Believing that they should work and speak engrish will get you labeled a bigot! Or worse......insensitive! Freakin' food stamps, why would you want to EXPAND their use? When will ANYONE finally figure out that welfare/foodstamps is the biggest enslaver of the human spirit EVER??? Handouts kill the soul, period.
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Actually, you won't be called insensitive, you'll be called "intolerant." After all, tolerance as defined by punkatomic is the wanton ass-kissing of any group that is the PC arena at the current date. That would include all the worthless, lazy shits on welfare, and the non-English-speaking boat people from where ever.
Link Posted: 1/10/2002 8:06:18 AM EDT
Saw a Hispanic women on Fox News in NYC. She was complaning because the mayor was going to cut off her welfare check. She said she was only on welfare for the last 20 years and couldn't understand why she was going to be cut off!! Go figure!! Guess she has no understanding of the word "trabajo"
Link Posted: 1/10/2002 8:14:46 PM EDT
once i was in a market in a not so nice part of town and i saw this black woman buying live lobsters w/food stamps,she had her hair and nails all done up ghetto style and was talking on a cell phone.when she left,everyone had a comment about her from the grocery bagger to the cashier,to other customers in line. the average food stamp experience i have while in the market is that 1) these people eat way better than i do,or 2)they have grocery baskets full of junk food and about 4-6 snotty nosed,dirty,fat assed kids.i really like to know that my tax dollars go to a good cause.
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Originally Posted By DarkHelmet: And they don't even use "Stamps" anymore... they have these fancy new-fangled ATM like cards to use..... it's supposed to help restore their dignity and make them feel good. [puke]
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That's what they were told. In reality, it tracks what they buy if the system works properly. However, you still have some shady merchants that will ring up cigarrettes as "meat" and the like. We used to have a family on food stamps rent a house from us, and they were the epitomy of white trash. They spent more on smokes and beer than they did on food or personal hygiene. Their 14 year old daughter turned into a baby factory, and her brother was getting pimped out to a lonely truck driver, which we found out years after they left. That same house, when I was a kid, was rented by a mexican immigrant, his wife, and their young son Julio. The man refused to take any sort of assitance and worked 3 jobs to take care of his family. He was a good man, but sadly there aren't enough like him of any ethnicity. My mom qualified for food stamps and my brother and I for free lunches after my dad died, but we NEVER did it. She busted her ass and even on a $12K/year job kept us afloat. She taught me everything I know about sacrifice, and God bless her. As long as people believe that there is a fundamental Human Right to have your lazy ass taken care of, then the system will continue to be this way. I can't mention how many times I've heard socialists and leftists talk about how food is a basic human right. No, freedom is a basic human right, and we're all free to get off our lazy asses and put food on the table. God Bless Texas
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Originally Posted By Kharn: Make the stamps be 6x6", hunter-orange and unbendable plastic and only in $1 and $2 denominations. Requiring the person to cry out "I am a lazy bastard who has no job, too many kids, smoke too much crack/crank/pot/drug of choice. I refuse to work because you pay for me to eat, sleep and have more kids, thanks to the socialists. Please vote democat in the next election so I will get even more of these cards for free each month." once for each card they are redeeming would take too long, so we'll add that later when the welfare rolls drop a little. Kharn
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I like the basic idea, that is if we "must" have this despicable system to begin with. I would re-word the part on what party to vote for considering who was in the oval office in '96 and who is the seat now! Sad isn't it? It is enough to make many say there isn't a nickels worth of difference between the Jackass and the Elephantitus. A republican giving CPR to a social "program" that was being dismantled under the worst democratic president in decades. Yuck. rDAm
Link Posted: 1/11/2002 3:45:56 AM EDT
How about telling those losers to get a job and pay for food with actual $$
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They do have job....They used the food stamp to live here and send their earned cash home.
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I have been in dire situations twice in my life, where I qualified for assistance. I refused, worked 2 and 3 jobs that paid shyte rather than take money from others. When I grew up in the Seabrook, TX area around Houston (late '60's to early '70s), there was a Mexican family whose son (Jose, but NEVER, even in his home, was called anything but Jesse or spoke anything but English) went to school with me. His mother spoke very broken english, and stayed home with the kids while dad worked several jobs. Their philosophy was that they came here to be Americans, to work for the dream, not to use America as Mexico North. They still did the pinata thing on birthdays, and ate mexican food, but truly represented the melting pot ideal that made this country great.
Link Posted: 1/11/2002 4:41:05 AM EDT
I've got a simple alternative to food stamps...eliminate them for everyone. That people are leeches and on food stamps shows they are incapable of being responsible for themselves and all their little welfare brats...so why would we expect them to show any ability to choose the correct food for their brood? Let's have food banks where nuitricious food would be distributed to the great unwashed. Bulk cheese, bread, macaroni, powdered milk, canned veggies...use all that food not grown by farmers to feed these dregs of society. Why give them a choice...let them have to line up to get their food allocation, this will eliminate fraud and selling stamps for drugs etc. They won't like it though, too bad.
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