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Posted: 9/14/2008 5:37:08 PM EDT

[#1]

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I had similar thoughts regarding it.

My problem is he used to be "Mike Venturino". Now he's Mike "Duke" Venturino and I have seen him refer to himself as "duke".

I reminds me of when george gives himself the name "T-Bone". You can't give yourself a nickname.

BO-BO! BO-BO! BO-BO!

a classic seinfeld.

Posted: 9/14/2008 5:38:10 PM EDT

[#2]

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Venturino got the nickname "Duke" because he had a horse by that name.

I now return you to you regularly scheduled stupidity.

do you put your nickname in your email address or in anything you write?

I didn't think so.

Posted: 9/14/2008 6:04:18 PM EDT

[#3]

"Lighten up Francis"

Posted: 9/14/2008 6:12:56 PM EDT

[#4]

Venturino? Honestly, I thought he was dead. Quite a long time ago actually.

Posted: 9/14/2008 6:16:24 PM EDT

[#5]

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DUKE is the Rosie O'Donnell of the gun industry.

Ayoob is Geraldo Rivera.

Ayoob may not be my favorite writer but he is nothing like Geraldo.

He's a duche just like Geraldo.

Posted: 9/14/2008 6:27:30 PM EDT

[#6]

Jerry Rivers is a TURD, the "Duke" don't bother me at all

Posted: 9/14/2008 6:40:11 PM EDT

[#7]

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DUKE is the Rosie O'Donnell of the gun industry.

Ayoob is Geraldo Rivera.

Ayoob may not be my favorite writer but he is nothing like Geraldo.

He's a duche just like Geraldo.

You have to be a tremendous douche to walk in Jerry's footsteps and Ayoob just isn't there IMO. What is it that you hate about him so much?

Posted: 9/14/2008 6:44:54 PM EDT

[#8]

Nice rant. I could almost see the flecks of spit flying from your lips. Well done.

Posted: 9/14/2008 6:50:57 PM EDT

[#9]

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I seem to recall an issue in which a reader wrote in, complaining of his use of the name "Duke". His response was that it was a nickname given to him a long time ago, and he now uses it as a sort of "nom de plume".

That being said, I'm not overly thrilled with the state of G&A lately. They recycle the same material and hearsay that they have been spouting for years. I don't believe they have any writers on staff anymore who have "seen the elephant" so to speak. They're mostly a bunch of buddies who write about guns.

I still enjoy Handgunner, though. Connor is fun to read, and his oft-photographed redhead daughter is mind-numbingly gorgoeous. Nagata's photos are incredible, and the articles are more geared towards equipment selection and review than most other mags. That is not to say it doesn't have its shortcomings, but overall it's a fun read. The last issue had a piece about a Cylinder and Slide custom-made 1903 chambered in .45ACP. Cool stuff.

Prove it. With pics.

Left side of the page here.

HA.

I'm pretty sure I took her to home-coming. Been at least a year since I talked to her though.

Dayum! I thought Boddington's daughter was cute!

Posted: 9/14/2008 6:58:52 PM EDT

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John Wayne was a homosexual.

Repo Man is not a reliable source of information. In fact that rumor was sarted by the left in an attempt to discredit him, as when the world was spinning with leftard BS he was firmly and proudly an American.

John Wayne was a great American. Read about him sometime and unblock your colon.

Tim "Swinging Beef" J

I think they called him Doof, as in Doofus, but he misheard them. I think it's in poor taste, because of it's association with Wayne. Specifically as the real Duke was known for his westerns, and Doof writes about the firearms of that era. And why the hell would you need to put your nickname in print?

Posted: 9/14/2008 7:08:12 PM EDT

[#11]

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DUKE is the Rosie O'Donnell of the gun industry.

Ayoob is Geraldo Rivera.

Ayoob may not be my favorite writer but he is nothing like Geraldo.

He's a duche just like Geraldo.

You have to be a tremendous douche to walk in Jerry's footsteps and Ayoob just isn't there IMO. What is it that you hate about him so much?

I hate his pontification about using handloads for self defense.

Posted: 9/14/2008 7:13:29 PM EDT

[#12]

This is why I don't read any gun rags. ARFCOM GD has more accurate firearms information than most of the magazines do. And we all know what a cesspool GD can be...

Posted: 9/14/2008 7:17:55 PM EDT

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Nice rant. I could almost see the flecks of spit flying from your lips. Well done.

The OP should take this as high praise, coming as it does from a master of the genre.

Posted: 9/14/2008 7:21:15 PM EDT

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John Wayne was a homosexual.

Provide some evidence.

His best friend was Rock Hudson.

Posted: 9/14/2008 7:21:47 PM EDT

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DUKE is the Rosie O'Donnell of the gun industry.

Ayoob is Geraldo Rivera.

Ayoob may not be my favorite writer but he is nothing like Geraldo.

He's a duche just like Geraldo.

You have to be a tremendous douche to walk in Jerry's footsteps and Ayoob just isn't there IMO. What is it that you hate about him so much?

I hate his pontification about using handloads for self defense.

The man's legal expertise is practically unmatched in the gun-writer community... and that one admonition of his regarding handloads makes him a tremendous douche?

A piece of advice: don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

Posted: 9/14/2008 7:22:12 PM EDT

[#16]

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DUKE is the Rosie O'Donnell of the gun industry.

Ayoob is Geraldo Rivera.

Ayoob may not be my favorite writer but he is nothing like Geraldo.

He's a duche just like Geraldo.

+100

He does have the GunLaws down, but otherwise is out of his lane regarding equipment, tactics, and firearms. I saw him at NTI one year.

Posted: 9/14/2008 7:23:35 PM EDT

[#17]

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John Wayne was a homosexual.

Provide some evidence.

His best friend was Rock Hudson.

Is that all you've got?

Posted: 9/14/2008 7:25:53 PM EDT

[#18]

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DUKE is the Rosie O'Donnell of the gun industry.

Ayoob is Geraldo Rivera.

Ayoob may not be my favorite writer but he is nothing like Geraldo.

He's a duche just like Geraldo.

You have to be a tremendous douche to walk in Jerry's footsteps and Ayoob just isn't there IMO. What is it that you hate about him so much?

I hate his pontification about using handloads for self defense.

The man's legal expertise is practically unmatched in the gun-writer community... and that one admonition of his regarding handloads makes him a tremendous douche?

A piece of advice: don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

His expertise lies in use of force, not admissibility of evidence. He is neither an attorney not a forensic pathologist. Yet he talks like he's both and a cop on top of it.

Posted: 9/14/2008 7:29:30 PM EDT

[#19]

Nice rant

Posted: 9/14/2008 7:32:59 PM EDT

[#20]

Quoted:

Quoted:
DUKE is the Rosie O'Donnell of the gun industry.

Ayoob is Geraldo Rivera.

Ayoob may not be my favorite writer but he is nothing like Geraldo.

He's a duche just like Geraldo.

You have to be a tremendous douche to walk in Jerry's footsteps and Ayoob just isn't there IMO. What is it that you hate about him so much?

I hate his pontification about using handloads for self defense.

The man's legal expertise is practically unmatched in the gun-writer community... and that one admonition of his regarding handloads makes him a tremendous douche?

A piece of advice: don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

His expertise lies in use of force, not admissibility of evidence. He is neither an attorney not a forensic pathologist. Yet he talks like he's both and a cop on top of it.

He is a part time cop, or at least he was when he was in NH. I think he's in Florida now.

I don't recall seeing him mention what evidnce was admissable. I have seen articles where he analyzed cases like the Fish case in Arizona where weapon and ammo choice played a big part in the prosecution's case and the jury's decision.

I'm pretty far from being an Ayoob supporter but he is probably the most qualified gunwriter out there when it comes to this subject.

Posted: 9/14/2008 7:36:29 PM EDT

[#21]

Say what you want about Ayoob. The man can flat out shoot. I never personally shot with him, but I know some damn good shooters that have. They said the man would talk you into a stupor, but the man could cut centers all day long.

Posted: 9/14/2008 7:40:36 PM EDT

[#22]

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DUKE is the Rosie O'Donnell of the gun industry.

Ayoob is Geraldo Rivera.

Ayoob may not be my favorite writer but he is nothing like Geraldo.

He's a duche just like Geraldo.

You have to be a tremendous douche to walk in Jerry's footsteps and Ayoob just isn't there IMO. What is it that you hate about him so much?

I hate his pontification about using handloads for self defense.

The man's legal expertise is practically unmatched in the gun-writer community... and that one admonition of his regarding handloads makes him a tremendous douche?

A piece of advice: don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

His expertise lies in use of force, not admissibility of evidence. He is neither an attorney not a forensic pathologist. Yet he talks like he's both and a cop on top of it.

He is a part time cop, or at least he was when he was in NH. I think he's in Florida now.

I don't recall seeing him mention what evidnce was admissable. I have seen articles where he analyzed cases like the Fish case in Arizona where weapon and ammo choice played a big part in the prosecution's case and the jury's decision.

I'm pretty far from being an Ayoob supporter but he is probably the most qualified gunwriter out there when it comes to this subject.

Fish did not get convicted because he carried JHP. He got convicted because he chose to give the charging dogs a warning shot, but not the angry dog owner who charged him with empty hands. Under those circumstances, neither FMJ nor JHP or a rubber bullet would have made a difference. He would have been convicted in ANY jurisdiction.

Posted: 9/14/2008 7:42:05 PM EDT

[#23]

I'm confused and horney

Posted: 9/14/2008 7:47:02 PM EDT

[#24]

Quoted:

Quoted:
DUKE is the Rosie O'Donnell of the gun industry.

Ayoob is Geraldo Rivera.

Ayoob may not be my favorite writer but he is nothing like Geraldo.

He's a duche just like Geraldo.

You have to be a tremendous douche to walk in Jerry's footsteps and Ayoob just isn't there IMO. What is it that you hate about him so much?

I hate his pontification about using handloads for self defense.

The man's legal expertise is practically unmatched in the gun-writer community... and that one admonition of his regarding handloads makes him a tremendous douche?

A piece of advice: don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

His expertise lies in use of force, not admissibility of evidence. He is neither an attorney not a forensic pathologist. Yet he talks like he's both and a cop on top of it.

He is a part time cop, or at least he was when he was in NH. I think he's in Florida now.

I don't recall seeing him mention what evidnce was admissable. I have seen articles where he analyzed cases like the Fish case in Arizona where weapon and ammo choice played a big part in the prosecution's case and the jury's decision.

I'm pretty far from being an Ayoob supporter but he is probably the most qualified gunwriter out there when it comes to this subject.

Fish did not get convicted because he carried JHP. He got convicted because he chose to give the charging dogs a warning shot, but not the angry dog owner who charged him with empty hands. Under those circumstances, neither FMJ nor JHP or a rubber bullet would have made a difference. He would have been convicted in ANY jurisdiction.

Seems I recall seeing an interview with one of the jurors who said that the 10mm hollowpoints were a factor in their decision. It was certainly a factor in the prosecution's case, just as similar factors have been in other cases.

I agree that he would have likely been convicted without it, but that doesn't make it any less of a factor.

Posted: 9/14/2008 7:49:20 PM EDT

[#25]

He has bugged the shit out of me for years

I am quite surprised he is still alive

Posted: 9/14/2008 7:51:54 PM EDT

[#26]

Quoted:

Quoted:
DUKE is the Rosie O'Donnell of the gun industry.

Ayoob is Geraldo Rivera.

Ayoob may not be my favorite writer but he is nothing like Geraldo.

He's a duche just like Geraldo.

You have to be a tremendous douche to walk in Jerry's footsteps and Ayoob just isn't there IMO. What is it that you hate about him so much?

I hate his pontification about using handloads for self defense.

The man's legal expertise is practically unmatched in the gun-writer community... and that one admonition of his regarding handloads makes him a tremendous douche?

A piece of advice: don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

His expertise lies in use of force, not admissibility of evidence. He is neither an attorney not a forensic pathologist. Yet he talks like he's both and a cop on top of it.

He is a part time cop, or at least he was when he was in NH. I think he's in Florida now.

I don't recall seeing him mention what evidnce was admissable. I have seen articles where he analyzed cases like the Fish case in Arizona where weapon and ammo choice played a big part in the prosecution's case and the jury's decision.

I'm pretty far from being an Ayoob supporter but he is probably the most qualified gunwriter out there when it comes to this subject.

Fish did not get convicted because he carried JHP. He got convicted because he chose to give the charging dogs a warning shot, but not the angry dog owner who charged him with empty hands. Under those circumstances, neither FMJ nor JHP or a rubber bullet would have made a difference. He would have been convicted in ANY jurisdiction.

Seems I recall seeing an interview with one of the jurors who said that the 10mm hollowpoints were a factor in their decision. It was certainly a factor in the prosecution's case, just as similar factors have been in other cases.

I agree that he would have likely been convicted without it, but that doesn't make it any less of a factor.

Fish did not use handloads.

Posted: 9/14/2008 7:57:54 PM EDT

[#27]

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Fish did not use handloads.

I never said he did. I simply pointed out that his choice of weapon was used against him by the prosecution in his case and had some influence on the jury. The same can happen with handloads, modified weapons, or weapons with "aggresive" names.

I don't neccessarily believe that it is very likely, but you'd have to be pretty naive to think that it wasn't possible. ayoob has carved himself a niche in the gunwriting community by writing about legal issues associated with self defense. The truth is that there are only a limited number of legal issues that may arise and he has covered them all, which leads to his picking apart stuff like handloads. I get sick of seeing the same material repeatedly in his writing but I'm sure he isn't going to stop as long as he's still getting paid.

Posted: 9/14/2008 8:08:28 PM EDT

[#28]

By that standard, one should not use a firearm for self defense because a prosecutor may pull some argument against it out of his ass. One should use a golf club or an umbrella, or just bend over.

If you have a legit self-defense argument, the fact you used JHP or a handload will not make or break you. Hell, you can even drown your assailant in a bucket of piss if you want.

Posted: 9/14/2008 8:16:11 PM EDT

[#29]

Back to the topic at hand, Venturino is a pole-smoking mongoloid.

He licks the windows of his camper van when parked across the street of the local middle school.

He has been known to try and bite his own ears on more than one occasion.

I've even heard it said that the man isn't even a man. Allegedly the C cup titties he sports are real and his original birth certificate read "Marcia Venturino".

Posted: 9/14/2008 8:32:26 PM EDT

[#30]

He pleasures himself with a half-round half-octagon HiWall...

Posted: 9/14/2008 8:36:47 PM EDT

[#31]

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All gun magazines blow ass. Why should i pay to read 80+ pages of bullshit opinions, biased reviews and retarded "it could happen to you stories."?

Yeah!!! I can get *that* here on ARFcom!!! Ooops...

Just kidding. My 2 years here have been very educational. I'm starting to like ARs almost as much as 1911s.

Posted: 9/14/2008 8:49:15 PM EDT

[#32]

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He pleasures himself with a half-round half-octagon HiWall...

dont forget his fetish for anything colorcased

Posted: 9/14/2008 8:55:56 PM EDT

[#33]

He once keestered a hoglegg.

Posted: 9/14/2008 9:00:47 PM EDT

[#34]

You said "indian" instead of native American- I like you already.

Posted: 9/14/2008 9:16:37 PM EDT

[#35]

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I enjoyed the rant.

+1

Posted: 9/14/2008 9:39:27 PM EDT

[#36]

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First off this Montanna meatball has the nerve to call himself the "DUKE"

You know .....Montanna ......

WTF is "Montanna"?

Posted: 9/14/2008 9:43:00 PM EDT

[#37]

Speaking of gun writers daughters, Craig Boddington who writes for Guns&Ammo has a beautiful daughter who appears in some of his articles. John Connors daughter is no slouch either. Those are two daughters of men who I'd never mess with and I pity the man who ever hurt their little girls.

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