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Link Posted: 12/4/2001 10:35:35 PM EDT
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Unlock Steyr Aug and ask him to return to this forum. He is one of the best members here and this site will not be the same untill he returns and returns as Steyr Aug. This site has become more and more moderated for a while now, and locking a tread because a mod thinks it is going to need locking soon anyway is just too much. What may just happen if this keeps up is people may stop posting and this site will die a slow death. This used to be a fun place to spend some time but lately things  around here are not as much fun.


VINCE AUT MORIRE (Conquer or Die)
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Ill second that.
Link Posted: 12/5/2001 12:22:30 AM EDT
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Good Grief you idiots!!!

Will you PLEASE do me a favor? and GET THE HELL OVER IT?!?!

I don't know what happened and I really don't care, but some of you act as though your mother was just shot by Sarah Brady herself! I mean for crying out loud, SteyrAUG could just be another random post generating program like Imbroglio, but some of you act like he was your personal Jesus.
Don't get me wrong, I appreciate Steyr's input (and Imbro's too!) but crimeny! the guy DID try to , shall we say "push the limits" by inviting the rest of you to participate in the BOTD threads. I'm not saying he did anything wrong 'technically' except for he did probably incite the riot. But does that alone equal a banning?

I don't know, and don't really care. I'm not a moderator, yet I know what the rules are and expect a thorough bashing/banning when I break them.
And so should the rest of you.


Just My .02
Link Posted: 12/5/2001 12:44:25 AM EDT
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"The topics SteyrAUGs PERFECT 10s was completely compliant you fucking shitbag asshole."

SteyrAUG, you really need to get a life! This stuff you post is not even pornography. Its pictures that little boys look at. You act like you have never seen a woman in your life!
Why do you keep sharing your pictures of the half-naked girls that you have, when you have been told a number of times to chill out. If you have an uncontrollable obsession with girlie pictures why don't you hang out on a pornography site, or go to a strip bar, or better yet why don't you take all the time that you waste here and spend it with your wife. If I remember correctly you just recently got married didn't you? Are you lacking something in your marriage that obsesses you to look at and share your girlie pictures with the people here on this gunsite? If anything, why don't you show a little more respect for your wife!
Link Posted: 12/5/2001 4:14:15 AM EDT
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[rolleyes]


Caution: Children at Play.

Link Posted: 12/5/2001 4:23:26 AM EDT
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... I don't know what happened ...
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... Read [b]SteyrAUG[/b]'s own strict rules, look at the pix, and judge for yourself. I for one, [u]do not[/u] like to see porn [u]here[/u] because sometimes I surf/lurk from work. However, nothing there even remotely smacked of porn compared to some of the stuff I had to kabash post haste because the secretary walked by last week.
... the thread that started it all:
[url]http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?id=75278[/url]
Link Posted: 12/5/2001 4:34:00 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/5/2001 4:50:03 AM EDT
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[i][i]7) No personal attacks towards ANYONE. If you have a problem with someone, then take it offline with them. If it's with a member of the staff or a moderator, then contact someone from the Senior Staff. Attacking a person, ANY PERSON, in a non-joking manner (clearly visible as a joke) will not be tolerated. Joking and teasing are fine, but if you cross the line, apologize before things get worse. This includes provoking someone into an attack.

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if i call someone a dirty liberal, do i get banned too?
Link Posted: 12/5/2001 4:53:13 AM EDT
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Striker -

You are wasting your keyboard.

They don't want a reasonable explanation, and the one you gave is more than resonable.

They want their own way. And they won't be satisfied until they get it.


NOTE TO THE CHILDREN THAT POPULATE THIS SITE:

Life is FULL of rules. The fact that you CANNOT and WILL NOT follow the simple (and VERy lenient) rules here (one of them being to NOT stir up shit unnecessarily) is indication that you MAY never learn to follow rules, and that you will quite possibly, in time, make poor citizens.

Life is full of rules. DEAL WITH IT. In fact, better yet, use AR15.com as an opportunity to practice your OBVIOUSLY deficient rule-following skillz.



Link Posted: 12/5/2001 5:10:10 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/5/2001 6:05:10 AM EDT
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After telling a 3 year old to stop doing something 3-4 times you need to punish them. Right? Exactly...
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I don't have a problem with him personally but I am glad because I almost decided to leave the GD forum altogether because I grew tired of the immaturity and all the wining and crying like some little girl.

Grow up people...
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Link Posted: 12/5/2001 6:26:31 AM EDT
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Rock on big guy.
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Yeah,yeah...........I know I am getting "heavier", but give me a break!.

I've been deer hunting hard since mid Oct and have not gotten in the gym for a serious workout since then! [:)]
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What about the workout from dragging deer out of the woods?  How have you done?
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For real!!

Man I hope your doing better than I am, havnt seen anything since my first day out, that was the day 7 does decided to parade around in front of me, knowing damn well I couldnt shoot em.
Link Posted: 12/5/2001 6:39:00 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/5/2001 6:41:03 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/5/2001 7:00:33 AM EDT
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Dear Mods,
[-!-][-!-][-!-][-!-][-!-][-!-][-!-][-!-][-!-]
Alway Hating Power Hungry Moron Mods,

cc48510
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That is so eloquently stated.  
("Alway" ?? ...  you might just want to invest in a spelling/grammar checker)

By the way--->  


Goatboy and the moderators here try their hardest to please everyone.
If you do not like this place or the way that it is run, simply LEAVE !
Link Posted: 12/5/2001 7:02:20 AM EDT
[#21]
OK, after all the ruckus, the main question still has not been answered. Was the post bigpig locked violating any of the posted rules ??? If so, then fine, he was justified. BUT if not, then he screwed up and initiated this entire fiasco.  
"accept responsibility for what you do and say"
Link Posted: 12/5/2001 7:12:17 AM EDT
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Well good morning all, hound is back from mexico and willing to share a few words of wisdom with all of you peeps....first on the subject of SA,
If it was premature moderation, we have a problem....but it looks like to me that SA shot himself in the foot in the second round of the gun-fight.
For the arguments about content, all of your arguments about BOTD can be turned against any of you and used to run you off. Example...Garand and his constant christianity---aren't there milllions of sites to discuss this non-gun related topic on. Isn't it offensive to a few of our members? (I know G-man---you're on a mission from God and I am writing examples) Some of the people on here obviously hate libertarians,muslims,democrats,women,cats,squirrels,rugers, and imbroglio....aren't there other sites where they can do this?
THIS IS MY HOME!!! I spend eight hours a day on this place, five days a week and I am really fed up with other people not treating it like the wonderful place it is. Don't come to my house and put your feet on the coffee table. Please?
I get more from this site than any other site ever in the history of the WWW and I see you guys doing your best to drive goatboy and his ass off the bridge. He let's most of us come to this fine country club for free and instead of acting like we would at a real country club, we act like 4-years olds at Toys-R-Us. Just think about it and try to make this place a place other people want to visit. And stop slamming the content.....if we have pretty pictures on the walls, it is ok! If we have bible verses, it is ok! If we have Imbroglio nailed to the wall it is ok! Come in have a beer and relax.
Link Posted: 12/5/2001 7:20:47 AM EDT
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I don't know much but I do know this -"ATTACKING" GoatBoy or the mods will not solve anything.  We simply put them in a position where they have to "DEFEND."

"GoatBoy" is there any way you can see to bring back the "AUG ?"

I think a fitting punishment would be to have him agree to read all posts above his before posting for a period of 30-days !!  For such a prolific poster that's a large whack on the knuckles.
[soapbox]
Link Posted: 12/5/2001 7:25:25 AM EDT
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In my opinion there is a difference between a personal attack and using cuss words to describe someone.  A personal attack is an attack against something particular to that individual.  What SteyrAUG said was not particular to that person.  It was directed AT that person and contained language some might find offensive, but it wasn't any more personal than responses made every day on this board.
Link Posted: 12/5/2001 8:10:36 AM EDT
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Less talk about deer, more flaming! Someone pass the popcorn please. This is better than Jerry Springer!


Aviator  [img]www.milpubs.com/aviator.gif[/img]
Link Posted: 12/5/2001 8:10:51 AM EDT
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I have been "holding out" for a large 10 pointer I saw on the last few days of archery season.I passed on literally dozens of deer during "shotgun" (regular) season.

On Thanksgiving morning I saw a small 8 pointer that I was going to let go.I changed my mind and shot it (under 30 yds) when I saw he had a neck wound on the side exposed to me (L).

I later found out it was a recent arrow wound (little foreign body reaction to it and no sign of infection).There was a broadhead and the forward 5" of an arrow in the neck.

I could not let the deer go like that.

It made up for the 2 small bucks I arrowed and could not find during archery season.

Yes,dragging the 8 pointer was a good aerobic workout,but if I get one of the heavy deer we have seen recently (over 200 pounds easily)I am going to need help! [:)]
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Hey, buddy boy!

I don't know WHO you think YOU are, but this belongs in the HUNTING forum!  Unless this is YOUR site, then you follow the rules like the rest of us!  Grrrr....


ROFLMAO

TheRedGoat
Link Posted: 12/5/2001 8:24:37 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/5/2001 8:36:42 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/5/2001 8:51:54 AM EDT
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That was some of the worst Moderating I've seen so far, and this is my first real complaint.
I guess you can put me in the whiner category now.

Ever see the kids in the hall really bad doctor
skit?  Le pig is a really bad moderator.
Link Posted: 12/5/2001 8:54:42 AM EDT
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If you wish to criticize me, feel free...

I [red]clamly[/red] lock the topics and leave all accounts unlocked and I get ripped or another mod gets ripped.
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I hope you will forgive me...

But I just HAD to post this.

Was it a Freudian slip?  [:D]

Did this make you smile and get you out of your shitty mood?
Link Posted: 12/5/2001 9:00:34 AM EDT
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I just noticed something else.

Almost ALL of the people that complain about your actions and abuse their priviledges are NON-CONTRIBUTING members !

Actually, there only seems to be a few paying members here.

A lousy 60 bucks to help support the site seems like a great investment to me.
(it's gotta costs the Avila's a shitload of cash to maintain this site)

If you can't afford the measly $60 bucks due to legitimate reasons, then you are forgiven.

If you are just a cheapskate, keep your criticism to yourself!
Link Posted: 12/5/2001 9:28:13 AM EDT
[#33]
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If you wish to criticize me, feel free...
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* The CAR in the logo is an evil pre-ban!
* Your javascript is 2nd rate!
* There's no pictures of goats in your profile!
* I didn't get my free AR-15 when I signed up on this forum!
* We know you secretly have raunchy pictures of Diane Feinstein as your wallpaper!
* Your mamma dresses you funny!
* You like Duran Duran!

and...er...what was the rest of this thread about again?
Link Posted: 12/5/2001 9:36:17 AM EDT
[#34]
you fucking shitbag asshole.
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If I had to venture a guess I would say that this is where Styer went wrong.

Though the public may have access to it, this is private/personal forum. Therefore Goatboy, and by extension his mods CAN EDIT/BAN YOU FOR ANYTHING THEY DAMN WELL PLEASE. If you don't like it then find another place to hang out. They do a lot to keep this place running and have more than earned the right. The are open to constructive criticism, but what Styer did was rash and stupid, and he paid the price for it.

Kyle
Link Posted: 12/5/2001 10:27:18 AM EDT
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It wouldn't be so bad if Steyer could just stopy crying like a damned little girl when he gets his feelings hurt (no offense ladies) and behaving like an adult.  The crap he pulled after his perceived slighting from AntiUSSA made it loud and clear how childish and silly he could be.  Some of his posts were very informative and helpful, but most of them were utter crap.  I'll miss him, but only so much because he's proven he's not capable of acting like an adult all the time or playing by the rules.  I liked his religous posts, but the BOTD threads did nothing for me.

I think everyone who hasn't become a paying member, including myself, has very little right to bitch about anything around here.  That's why I keep my mouth shut about the way Goatboy runs the site, though I really have no problems with the current rules.  If I did, I wouldn't spend so much time hanging out here. [:D]

God Bless Texas
Link Posted: 12/5/2001 10:34:18 AM EDT
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you fucking shitbag asshole.
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Could someone explain to me what a "shitbag" is??? I'm familiar with the other two expletives, what possible application could a "shitbag" have??

Is it a litle baggie that these eco nuts take with them when hiking in the woods, so they don't "pollute' and can carry  their crap out with them?

Inquiring minds want to know.



Link Posted: 12/5/2001 10:48:13 AM EDT
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What I don't like is the hypocrisy of certain mods/staff. A mod sayz something to you, and if you cut/paste and say it right back to him, BOOM, you're gone. And I wont mention any names.. no, wait, I think I will, DonR,.. but while locking someone's account for useing rash, vulgar and insulting language is one thing, locking someone's account for DARING to post, in a civil manner, their disagreements is totally unacceptable.[:(!]

edited for poor grammar
Link Posted: 12/5/2001 11:04:53 AM EDT
[#38]
... a word in edgewise...

Just wanted to get a word in edgewise in this EXPLOSIVE thread.
Link Posted: 12/5/2001 11:44:01 AM EDT
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you fucking shitbag asshole.
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Could someone explain to me what a "shitbag" is??? I'm familiar with the other two expletives, what possible application could a "shitbag" have??
Inquiring minds want to know.
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Colostomy(sp?) bag?
Link Posted: 12/5/2001 11:54:59 AM EDT
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Niether side was right. BigPig should have stated all the "Babe" threads were going to be consolidated to save bandwith and Moderators time if that was the case. However he acted in a very insulting and pompous manner. That being said, Steyr Aug`s response was totally unwarranted in it`s use of profanity.

As for constructive criticism, I think some quality control is in order for the moderators. I`ve read some topics that were locked for obvious reasons (i.e. race or ethnic slurs), and some where I was left scratching my head as to why. To the mods credit, I`ve seen a couple of instances where they reversed themselves where they made an error. Perhaps a review of all threads locked should be done by the moderators in their forum to see if certain mods have trouble with certain subjects or members. I don`t think Goatboy should have to be the preschool teacher for everyone and solve all the problems that crop up. It might also calm down some of the more excitable people here to know the mods were trying to police themselves in a responsible manner. Just my 0.02 $.
Link Posted: 12/5/2001 12:41:57 PM EDT
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Rules to live by:

Don't fight a bear in its cave.

Don't argue with an idiot.

Both seem to have applied.
Link Posted: 12/5/2001 12:49:10 PM EDT
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Oops, forgot the most important one:

F' with the bull and ya get the horn.

or in this case, F' with the goat.
Link Posted: 12/5/2001 1:06:43 PM EDT
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Hey, buddy boy!

I don't know WHO you think YOU are, but this belongs in the HUNTING forum!  Unless this is YOUR site, then you follow the rules like the rest of us!  Grrrr....


ROFLMAO

TheRedGoat
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[b]ROFLMAO![/b] [:D]

You are probably right (still LMAO),this SHOULD be on the Hunting Forum,[b]unless [/b]you were trying to defuse the issue and let things cool off a bit! [:)]
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Yup!  Just trying to insert a little brevity.

 Besides, I will be seeing some of these guys/mods in about a week in Decatur for a weekend hog roast/shoot.  

You really think I am going to join the mod/site/goatboy bashing, then attend a shooting meet with moderators who have already talked about having guns, a back hoe, and a remote location???  

[b]ROFLMAO![/b] [:D]

TheRedGoat
Link Posted: 12/5/2001 1:16:44 PM EDT
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The fact remains that this site is private property, and the owners have appointed Goatboy to run it (a job I would NEVER accept!). He makes the rules, and the mods jobs are to enforce them.
Some of you folks remind me of a brat that insists on messing with the dog, no matter how many times he is told to leave it alone. When the dog has finally had his fill and bites the little rascal, he cries and says it's the dog's fault.
There are literally hundreds or thousands of outright porn sites on the net. This is a gun site. Why is it absolutely necessary to have naked women pics here???  I like smut as much as the next guy, but I don't come HERE to see it! I understand the "but it's the GD forum" arguement, but I don't think it flies when the pics are in violation of board policy.
Some of us obviously need to do some growing up.
That being said, I don't want Steyr to be banned either, but he has to take responsibility for his actions (or in this case statements). I'm sure he'll be back.
Sheeesh!
Link Posted: 12/5/2001 1:33:53 PM EDT
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The fact remains that this site is private property, and the owners have appointed Goatboy to run it (a job I would NEVER accept!). He makes the rules, and the mods jobs are to enforce them.
Some of you folks remind me of a brat that insists on messing with the dog, no matter how many times he is told to leave it alone. When the dog has finally had his fill and bites the little rascal, he cries and says it's the dog's fault.
There are literally hundreds or thousands of outright porn sites on the net. This is a gun site. Why is it absolutely necessary to have naked women pics here???  I like smut as much as the next guy, but I don't come HERE to see it! I understand the "but it's the GD forum" arguement, but I don't think it flies when the pics are in violation of board policy.
Some of us obviously need to do some growing up.
That being said, I don't want Steyr to be banned either, but he has to take responsibility for his actions (or in this case statements). I'm sure he'll be back.
Sheeesh!
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... mom, is that you?
Link Posted: 12/5/2001 1:35:42 PM EDT
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... mom, is that you?
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You better get your ass back up those stairs until I SAY you can come out!!!!![;D]
Link Posted: 12/5/2001 1:43:33 PM EDT
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you fucking shitbag asshole.
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Could someone explain to me what a "shitbag" is??? I'm familiar with the other two expletives, what possible application could a "shitbag" have??
Inquiring minds want to know.
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Colostomy(sp?) bag?
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Somebody always beats me to it.
Link Posted: 12/5/2001 1:44:23 PM EDT
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Yup!  Just trying to insert a little brevity.

[b]ROFLMAO![/b] [:D]

TheRedGoat
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Since our grammar nazi seems to be on vacation, I thought I'd point out that the word you were probably looking for here is "levity" (meaning humor).  Brevity, on the other hand, means very brief or just "short" (and no, I won't go *there*).

I did find this little tidbit, just in case you're interested in brevity on purpose...

[url]http://www.creativenonfiction.org/brevity/brevity.html[/url]

[:)]
Link Posted: 12/5/2001 1:49:11 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/5/2001 2:22:44 PM EDT
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Yup!  Just trying to insert a little brevity.

[b]ROFLMAO![/b] [:D]

TheRedGoat
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Since our grammar nazi seems to be on vacation, I thought I'd point out that the word you were probably looking for here is "levity" (meaning humor).  Brevity, on the other hand, means very brief or just "short" (and no, I won't go *there*).

I did find this little tidbit, just in case you're interested in brevity on purpose...

[url]http://www.creativenonfiction.org/brevity/brevity.html[/url]

[:)]
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Yeah, I just used brevity to see if anyone would catch it. I knew it should be levity, yeah that's the ticket!  I just did it to see if anyone was paying attention... yeah.. paying attention... that's it!  LOL

TheRedFacedGoat

edited before the Grammar Nazi caught me twice in a row....
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