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Posted: 12/2/2001 11:47:15 AM EDT

Last year when I was on my air cadets .22 rifle team I was helping a younger female cadet with her air rifle shooting. Anyway she showed up every week for air rifle and she tries really hard. I was the best shot in the .22 program but it was cancelled so I migrated over to the air rifle program. This cadet was going to make the team this year since a spot opened at the end of last year. Anyway I realized that if I continue to do well in air rifle this year she will be of the team. I don't think this is fair since she showed up every time and I just now show up and get a spot simply because I am a natural shooter. What do you guys think? Should I drop out I mean I can shoot at home if I really want and besides I really don't like air rifle much. Or is it just tough luck for her? I would really hate to hurt her feelings since she is so nice and tries so hard while I can grab ahold of any rifle and shoot well.

Thanks for any advice.

Posted: 12/2/2001 11:51:50 AM EDT

[#1]

Well, if it were me, I would graciouslly bow out.
after all you did say you really weren't that interested, Right? and she obviously is interested, and dedicated in the sport.

Thas' what I'd do.

Posted: 12/2/2001 11:53:26 AM EDT

[#2]

What Ruckus said!

Posted: 12/2/2001 11:55:48 AM EDT

[#3]

give it to her. you might get some ass.

im kidding of course.

Posted: 12/2/2001 11:56:21 AM EDT

[#4]

You're hurting the Team by bowing out and letting a lesser shooter take your place.
In any sport the slots go to be qualified (usually)[rolleyes]

Posted: 12/2/2001 12:02:43 PM EDT

[#5]

I would bow out as well. We need all the women in the shooting sports we can get. If she gets kicked off the team, there's no telling what it would do to her love of the sport.

I have also been raised to be chivalrous (even though it has gotten me into trouble). Bow out, but coach her on the side. Teach her to do well enough to take your spot.

Posted: 12/2/2001 12:03:47 PM EDT

[#6]

thanks for the advice guys. I am leaning towards dropping out since when you're not on the team you don't shoot. I can shoot at home while this is the only place she could shoot and I am not interested in getting any ass since she is 13 while I am 16.

Posted: 12/2/2001 12:52:51 PM EDT

[#7]

btt, any more input from anyone would be great.

Posted: 12/2/2001 12:56:54 PM EDT

[#8]

If it were me I would drop out, but be around to help her out with her shooting skills.

Posted: 12/2/2001 1:02:37 PM EDT

[#9]

See about getting a coaching position. Then you're not stepping "down" or "across", but upwards. This creates a spot to be filled by a dedicated up and coming shooter. Win/win.

Posted: 12/2/2001 1:06:19 PM EDT

[#10]

All things considered, at least the information that you've offered. I think that it would be the gentlemanly thing to bow out as already suggested. I mean you aren't gung ho for it anyway, so why not let her continue to go on with the program. She may get better and better, and as said more women involved in shooting is a very good thing...plus it'll make you feel warm and fuzzy [:D]

Posted: 12/2/2001 1:06:56 PM EDT

[#11]

the coach one is a no-go. While I was best at .22 I am not at air rifle. The team captain is two ranks and years ahead of me and a better shot(at air rifle anyway).

Posted: 12/2/2001 1:45:35 PM EDT

[#12]

I would quit. I mean, who really wants to shoot an air rifle anyways? Let the girl have the spot.

Michael

Posted: 12/2/2001 1:50:16 PM EDT

[#13]

Thanks for all the advice. I think I will slowly pull myself out of the air rifle scene.

Posted: 12/2/2001 1:50:42 PM EDT

[#14]

Let the girl have it. [:)]

Posted: 12/2/2001 1:58:08 PM EDT

[#15]

I think, bow out. Like you and others have said, you aren't that interested in air rifle!

Also giveN that she is 13 years old, if she get's bumped off the team, she may lose all interest in shooting.

You might want to ask her to come over shooting at your place. Coach her and keep her interest in the shooting sports going strong!

Posted: 12/2/2001 2:08:40 PM EDT

[#16]

No matter what you decide, The fact is you stopped thinking about yourself long enough to consider the feelings of someone else.

Your parents did a good job.

Posted: 12/2/2001 2:22:34 PM EDT

[#17]

Stay in man,she was there every day and she will still be there untill her day comes.

DON'T step on her DON'T talk crap but do take your due if it comes your way,she willl get there if she really wants it.

I had to deal with something like this once,I wanted on the football tam and there was a guy that worked to get on for two years and I got it the first year.
He said he should get the spot and should be able to play in all the big games(what we saw as big in high school)
That made me think,I took to spot cuz I was wanted to play and he wanted to show his a$$.

If she is there to shoot she will shoot team or no team,and people like that don't get passed up for long.

BTW: still be cool about it and stay friends.

Posted: 12/2/2001 3:07:49 PM EDT

[#18]

What does she look like?

I'm with big bore. It's fake if you give it to her.

Would you want accolades you didn't deserve?

Posted: 12/2/2001 3:12:46 PM EDT

[#19]

You're thinkin' with the wrong head again. If it was a guy, would you be so chivalrous and concerned?

The team is there to compete. If you want to compete, and you beat someone else out, tough titties for them and good for the team. Maybe you should just go up to the team cap'n and say,"Coach, I'm a better shooter than this chick cadet, but she's tried [i]really[/i]hard so maybe she deserves it more" and watch the veins rise in his neck.

You might actually be doing air cadet a favor. Don't cut her any slack.

shooter

Posted: 12/2/2001 3:24:55 PM EDT

[#20]

Let her have it, bow out quietly, but don't tell her why you are doing it. You wouldn't want her to think it was handed over too easily. If someone thinks that they earned a spot on the team it will boost thier confidence, but if it is handed to them it is easy come easy go. You guys are the future of this sport and the younger the better. You might want to take her and her friends to the range and shoot some real weapons. That will get someone very interested in shooting, after they realize that they can handle real guns they lose the fear of them. Anti-gunners are always preaching about the danger of guns and people have an un-natural fear of guns. Besides, female shooters are not very common and we need to be represented by a larger cross section of society. Good Luck in your decision.

Posted: 12/2/2001 3:35:40 PM EDT

[#21]

Have you considered talking to her about it? Ask her just how serious she is about shooting.

Oh BTW where does your wing shoot?

We just had 28 Air Cadets out at our club. They use our range all the time.

Posted: 12/3/2001 4:29:58 AM EDT

[#22]

What Ruckus said.

Bow out of air rifle, and get into real shooting like in .223 or .308 then later ask that girl if she want to joint in.

Posted: 12/3/2001 11:40:09 AM EDT

[#23]

I have to consider that this is the only oppurtunity she has to shoot at all. I mean have guns and a large property to use them on. I think I should let her have it so she doesn't lose interest cuz that would be a shame.
She is too nice to ever ask me to drop out but I think it would the right thing to do.

Posted: 12/3/2001 11:57:54 AM EDT

[#24]

IF you are gonna stay in air rifle, and compete to teh best of you ability, and you are committed to a FULL season.

STAY IN. Is she REALLY benefitted from gettin a spot she DOES NOT deserve??? What will give her the better life lesson - getting a spot she doesn't deserve, or learning to practice harder and EARN it next year?? (Think "gov't welfare program" here)

If you aren't gonna commit to a whole season, then don't compete at all, and she will then have EARNED the spot.

I'm just glad to see you care about doing the right thing.

Posted: 12/3/2001 12:01:46 PM EDT

[#25]

I'll also say I like JohnnyGT's idea.

See above.

Posted: 12/3/2001 12:04:51 PM EDT

[#26]

Is she hot? (I can't believe I'm the first one to ask this).

BTW, since you said don't like airguns to begin with, I'd bow out. Maybe a another spot will open up later or next year.

Posted: 12/3/2001 12:07:28 PM EDT

[#27]

What are the criteria for making the team? Just showing up & pulling the trigger? Or does include the results (scores)? If she improves enough to outshoot you, will she step aside for you?

What if she improves enough to outshoot the next person up? That might be a "best of both worlds" solution. If you can coach her enough to move up a couple of spots, maybe she can make the team on her own.

Posted: 12/3/2001 4:01:58 PM EDT

[#28]

Thanks alot guys for all the advice. This is somewhat of a hard decision to make. The main reason I think she deserves the spot more than me is because I just showed up now and basically replaced her with no warning. I would feel really badly if I caused her to lose interest in shooting. While she isn't the best shooter she has improved greatly in the last year.

Posted: 12/3/2001 5:46:40 PM EDT

[#29]

If you were really excited about Air Rifle, I'd say stay in. But it really doesn't sound like you care all that much about the class, and that means you're a "ringer" that will bump out another shooter who really really wants that spot on the team. Taking this girl's spot would be a crappy thing to do.

Also, you keep talking about how nice this girl is, but then you deny any interest because she's 3 years younger. Yeah, but when you're 20 and she's 17 you'll sing a different tune. [:D]

My advice - tell the team that you really like .22s and let the girl have the spot. Then invite her out to your house to practice and give her some pointers. In a couple of years you may find you have a perfect shooting buddy. [;)]

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