That's not logic, I'm just ragging on ya. Where is that cabin of your?



Without us, you wouldn't have anything to bitch about. Boy.

Karl, you should see what a similar massive influx and population growth has done to the Puget Sound region. It's sad.

What the...?  Now I'm drawing fire?  Man, I was just kidding about the Cali laws.  You think I enjoying having the priviledge of shelling out $1400 for my AR?  I know it's gloomy up there but have a little humor in your life Washington.  "Rain rain go away, come again another day..."  Yeah right.

Sorry to disappoint you, bit I live in a nice 2 story home in a well to do part of town. And all this on the wages of a railroader and an aircraft mechanic. I do have to confess that I harbor a small amount of envy towards a friend of mine who is a bush pilot in a remote area of Alaska, however. That almost sounds like paradise to me.



Easy, I just wouldn't. Again, sorry to disappoint you, but I don't generally go through life complaining. Unlike those who visit another state and the only thing they have to note about it was their perceived lack of attractive women. [;)]

Karl,

I have no problems with Oregon. I think it's an interesting place to visit. I personally wouldn't live there, but that's just me.
I'm having fun with Boomer because he's so anti California.

Actually, the rain doesn't bother me at all. I wish it would snow more, though. I have publicly stated several times that I wish it would rain for about two years up here. Most of the non-hackers would then either move away or kill themselves.

Semi - yes one could make such an argument. Now let me give you the flipside:

The same old folks water down the economy due to the fact the income is transfer income. And because very few multi millionaires retire to So OR - we have an inordinately high number of non producing (salaries/goods/services) individuals that are largely recipients of social services.

Secondly, they are  a powerful voting block. They do not vote for anything which will not benifit them. That means roads, freeway intechanges, school bond measures, increased area public transit, etc, etc. All of which are necessary to entice industry to a community.

As a result, industry is hard pressed to locate here. Particularly high tech industry. The first question a techie asks when they get off the plane? What are your k-12 schools like? Well they suck. We lead in the drop out rate. And suck in the higher ed attendance ratios too.

We have an inordinant amount of service based jobs in our economy. We are actually in the bottom 20% of counties in the US.


Warehousing the elderly isn't a money maker in either the short or long term.

Adding another old person to the area is like adding .230 hitter to the team line up - it does nothing good.

Adding a factory? This is like a .400 hitter.

Well, I heard through the grape vine that Alaska doesn't want anyone from Washington to spoil their state. [:D]

Hey, I'm not really anti-Californian. I don't think they have any problems that a few 9.0 earthquakes, a million square mile wildfire, and several neutron bombs couldn't cure.

Well, at least not those who would have the nerve to go up there and then whine about it, right? [;)]

How sick are you? You wish death upon millions of people you don't even know. And I thought Osama was evil.

Hey, lighten up. I never literally said I wished anyone to be killed, did I? Just shaken back to their senses. [;)]

You implied. That's the same as wishing death. I don't think that cabin of yours is big enough.

It doesn't have to be. It's well armed and defended. We CAN still buy those evil "assault weapons" that so scare the typical Californian, remember? [;)]

Trust me, there are a lot of typical Californians that have the evil assault weapons, legal or otherwise.

SIX; I agree with your points.  You describe a condition much like most rural areas of Calif. or anywhere else.  So the big challenge is how to attract a factory that will give people decent jobs and provide better lifestyles without destroying the rural character of a particular area.  And we have all seen what happens to "company towns" when that one factory folds up and sends their manufacturing overseas.  I guess if I had the answers I would be one of those multi-millionares.

I've picked out some land near ashland and may be living there next fall. If there are any of you in the area who can tell the difference between an AR15.commer and the typical californian, feel free to say hey.

Are you a fan of Shakespeare?

Not enough to get it ???

I think one of the problems that people in
Oregon have with Californians is about attitudes
on certain issues.  Like the public right to beaches, for one example.  People have moved
here from California, built houses on the sand,
for Christ's sake, and tried to claim the beach
for themselves.  Another issue are navigable
rivers.  A lot of the new comers bought land
along the great rivers of Oregon and tried to
keep out fishermen.  There was one guy here
locally who bought land along the S. Santiam
and kicked out all the bank fishermen.  What
he did not know was that his property line was the "high water mark," not where ever the hell
he wanted it.  He got his justice, though.  During the winter he got slightly flooded, I was told.  I think Oregon ought to ship Eugene
and maybe parts of Portland to California.
Heh heh heh.  I ALSO BELIEVE THAT CALIFORNIA
HAS A TON OF NICE,DECENT FOLKS, HOWEVER.
Oregon has a couple of large areas full of kooks
of our own. I was truly embarassed by the Mayor
of Eugene over the Christmas tree issue, not to
mention the apparant haven for anarchists there.
As for Bend, like the earlier post said, it was a sleepy kind of town until folks from California discovered it.  Soon after, a drug
problem arrived. I can't really blame THAT on
the people from down south, I just know it happened.  Bend DOES have a nice rifle range, though - 1000 yards, etc. John

Axel:

Southern Oregon University (Ashland) is home of a well known Shakespeare festival.

Karl

Well, with all the ragging on PRK, I have to compliment the gun owners there...

About 95% of the owners of so-called "assault weapons" did NOT register their firearms, nor did they all march down to the local police station and line up in straight lines, and turn in their large capacity magazines.

One of these days, the powers that be in PRK are going to have a rude awakening.

There are a lot of good, decent folks here. We just hate assholes from Washington. If you don't like California, don't fucking come here.


A long range rifle range would be nice. My local range only goes out to something like 300 yards.

Unfortunately, I think the rude awakening will be for you.  You'll find out nobody will help you get back the freedoms you lost.  They will be too busy out on the beach checking out the hot chicks. [;)][:D]

Amen, checking out a gun isn't nearly as exciting as checking out hot chicks.