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Posted: 11/11/2001 4:40:09 AM EDT
Were the Marine Corps first created under the Dept. of Army or the Dept. of Navy? I had to break up a serious argument this evening between two patrons of my bar over this question. So which is it? Alex
Link Posted: 11/11/2001 4:47:18 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/11/2001 4:56:51 AM EDT
I posted this because I know that quite a few Marines post here. What I gander from the Marine website is that the marines were created by George Washington when he besieged a city to bolster the blockade on that city. This was about a week before the Navy was an official agency.
Link Posted: 11/11/2001 4:56:58 AM EDT
The Marines were "created" in a little pub called "Tunn Tavern", in Philadelphia, on November 10th, 1775. At the time there was no Department of the Army or Navy. There was no United States of America, either. Later, they ADMINISTRATIVELY, were placed in the Dept of the Navy. There is no uniformed member of the U.S. Navy in charge of Marines (except when were at sea, and that's merely a formality). Just the SecNv, and he's a civilian. The Marines DO, however have a bunch of Navy Doctors, Dentists, Chaplains and Corpsmen that in OUR charge.
Link Posted: 11/11/2001 5:09:26 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/11/2001 5:04:30 AM EDT by alexanderredhook]
So they were part of the Continental army.
Link Posted: 11/11/2001 5:29:03 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/11/2001 5:24:18 AM EDT by BarracudaBob]
The Marines DO, however have a bunch of Navy Doctors, Dentists, Chaplains and Corpsmen that in OUR charge.
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Although, as my father was a Navy Corpsman during WW2, serving in those most memorable island campaigns like Kwajalein, Aniwetok, Okinawa and Tarawa...there were many a Marine that was grateful for being under my fathers charge. Regardless...To all the heroic members of our armed services, whether active, reserve or retired, a hardy [b]Thank You[/b] to you all on this Veterans Day. Msgt Bob (Ret)
Link Posted: 11/11/2001 5:30:38 AM EDT
Originally Posted By alexanderredhook: So they were part of the Continental army.
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The Marines are and always have been Naval Infantry. Technically the Marines were part of the Continental Militia as was the Army.
Link Posted: 11/11/2001 5:37:10 AM EDT
from the Marine Corps Heritage Foundation, "The Marines" published 1998: On 10 November 1775, the Continental Congress passed a resolution to raise two battalions of American Marines. They were to be a part of a [b]Naval Expedition[/b] to help the inhabitants of Nova Scotia secure "the preservation of their rights and liberties." But George Washington, as commander of the Continental Army, was cool on the idea of the expedition, and it didn't happen. The Continental Congress still went ahead with raising the Marines. Captain Samuel Nicholas was authorized to recruit Marines for service with Commodore Ezek Hopkins's squadron, the Continental Navy's first, then forming at Philadelphia.
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Created separately, it sounds like we were considered to be a combat arms support service to the Navy. Now, we are part of the Department of the Navy ([b][i]the Men's Department![/i][/b])
Link Posted: 11/11/2001 5:37:50 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/11/2001 5:32:01 AM EDT by EOD_Guy]
The Army was "born" on June 14th 1775. The Marine Corps was "born" on November 10th 1775 (Happy Birthday, Marines). They were not connected. The Navy didn't come along until February of 1776. So, officially, the Marine Corps is older than the navy.
Link Posted: 11/11/2001 5:42:34 AM EDT
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Please read this and tell me your interpretation.............. [url]www.usmc.mil/historical.nsf/nav1[/url] Click on [i]Revolutionary War[/i]
Link Posted: 11/11/2001 5:44:25 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By EOD_Guy: The Army was "born" on June 14th 1775. The Marine Corps was "born" on November 10th 1775 (Happy Birthday, Marines). They were not connected. The Navy didn't come along until February of 1776. So, officially, the Marine Corps is older than the navy.
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Actually, the Continental Navy was established Oct 13th, 1775. [url]http://www.history.navy.mil/birthday.htm[/url]Can't have a Naval militia without the Naval part! edited 'cause I missed it by 6 days! Sorry about that, Chief Paul
Link Posted: 11/11/2001 5:58:28 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/11/2001 5:55:23 AM EDT by Alacrity]
Navy was officially born 13 October 1775. I can find a link if we need it verified. Want to have a problem with T.O. join the Coast Guard. Transportation? Navy? Huh? Luck Alac Edited - See link above, latency. Nicley done GunnyG. BTW belated Happy Birthday y'all.
Link Posted: 11/11/2001 12:50:47 PM EDT
I was obviously wrong about the Navy birthday. Please accept my appologies. Now I have to figure out what happened in February 1776 that had me confused.
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