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Posted: 10/26/2001 11:16:29 PM EDT
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Good. I have a resume' that just went into the shredder because Boeing lost the contract. Please excuse me since I am not jumping for joy.
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Posted: 10/26/2001 11:17:16 PM EDT
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Damn, that Boeing plane is BUTT UGLY!
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Posted: 10/27/2001 3:05:43 AM EDT
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Now, for the next question. What is the current status of the F-22 program? Are they going to get the thing or not?
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Posted: 10/27/2001 4:43:56 AM EDT
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I'm sorry but WTF was Boeing thinking with their design? That is the ugliest and bulkiest plane that I have ever seen. There is no way a plane that bulky would be able to manuver better the Lockheed Martin plane.
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Posted: 10/27/2001 5:31:55 AM EDT
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The plane they showed on the news didn't have a thrust vectoring nozzle , Did it??
Benjamin There was a time when we went from the drawing board to first plane delivered in 7 years. Now it takes upwards of 15-20. What has happened with this?? Lack of money??? I have been watching both the F-22 since about 91. And the JSF from its various forms since 1990. |
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Posted: 10/27/2001 5:48:30 AM EDT
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I agree, the X-32 IS a butt-ugly aircraft, and the X-35, now YF-35, looks good standing still. It's not looks that matter though. What matters is putting bombs and missiles on target and allowing the pilot to return home safely.
I'm rather peeved that all along the Defense Department has said how close the competition was, and then yesterday LockheedMartin was the "clear winner", and that this became apparent early on. Yeah, I'm kind of bummed, since I applied for a job at Boeing and was told that it depended on whether they got the contract or not. Oh, well. |
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Posted: 10/27/2001 7:19:07 AM EDT
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Quoted: I'm sorry but WTF was Boeing thinking with their design? That is the ugliest and bulkiest plane that I have ever seen. There is no way a plane that bulky would be able to manuver better the Lockheed Martin plane. Just because it's bulky doesn't mean that it can't maneuver. Just look at the F117. It looks like it should fall out of the sky (and without it's computer, it would). But, it's very agile. |
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Posted: 10/27/2001 7:31:15 AM EDT
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They still need an air-superiority inceptor/fighter, so I think the F22 is safe. The F35 will basically be the workhorse like the F18 is currently with multiple missions. The vertical takeoff ability will be nice on a carrier if the carrier takes a hit to the catapults.
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Posted: 10/27/2001 7:37:46 AM EDT
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If I understand correctly, the VTOL will be ONLY for the Marines. The Navy won't get them.
There's supposed to be 3 versions. The AF, Navy (presumably w/ stronger undercarriage) and Marines (VTOL) |
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Posted: 10/27/2001 10:57:50 AM EDT
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Quoted: There was a time when we went from the drawing board to first plane delivered in 7 years. Now it takes upwards of 15-20. What has happened with this?? Lack of money??? I have been watching both the F-22 since about 91. And the JSF from its various forms since 1990. Just the opposite. Too much money. Aircraft used to be designed and prototyped by the company on their own time and money. They had a vested intrest in getting a good design on the market NOW. Then it was all switched to the military paying for R&D. Now they study the hell out of every aspect (to justify spending more $$$). The planes ARE more complicated now. But the above is the biggest reason. |
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Posted: 10/27/2001 1:31:38 PM EDT
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The Boeing plane looks like a pregnant guppy...!
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Posted: 10/27/2001 1:39:18 PM EDT
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As of today, Lockheed got the contract.
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Posted: 10/27/2001 11:14:59 PM EDT
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I also thought it was the ATF-22 at first until I saw a vertical take off example on the news. WoW! Very cool! Thrust vectoring and all. It's basically a Supersonic Stealth harrier!
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Posted: 10/28/2001 3:10:26 AM EDT
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Good, the Boeing design was a POS !
1. "we conducted hover tests with the retarded, complex and expensive variable inlet removed but think it will work the same with it installed" 2. In response to the compressor stall incident during hover trials "The stall occurred in a phase of flight the computer models predicted it would" 3. Boeing had redesigned the AC with a more standard tail configuration for production because as the Europeans still have not figured out a delta wing design sucks for maneuverability (bleeds speed rapidly in turns) and provides an extremely shitty ride in low level flight and turbulence. I guess that's why they refer to the laws of aerodynamics as laws and not guidelines. |
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Posted: 10/28/2001 4:25:03 AM EDT
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I think in their attempt to make a plane for every service, they will please no one. This is a stupid idea.
Also now I see why the first thing the Tomahawks take out is AAA. At 30,000,000 per plane, you don't want those things to get blown away. |
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