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Posted: 10/25/2001 10:47:19 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/25/2001 10:51:14 PM EDT
I think anybody at my work *not* looking at porn would make the news hehe
Link Posted: 10/25/2001 10:53:48 PM EDT
I am at work But I have been on my 2 week notice for the last 2 1/2 MONTHS so If they get mad I guess I will realy leave and let them work this work schedule with one less person. john
Link Posted: 10/25/2001 11:12:28 PM EDT
I always use lynx as a browser at work. It looks like complicated computer geek stuff from a distance. [8D]
Link Posted: 10/25/2001 11:15:36 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/25/2001 11:16:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/25/2001 11:12:44 PM EDT by GTTacoma]
It's an old text-based web browser [url]http://lynx.browser.org/[/url]
Link Posted: 10/26/2001 2:40:23 AM EDT
Don't worry, I'm not going to fire myself. I appreciate your concern though.
Link Posted: 10/26/2001 2:53:52 AM EDT
I don't usually go online at work (kind of hard to get Internet access in the cab of a locomotive) but has anyone tried www.safeweb.com? I've heard others pretty knowledgable about computers say that it does a pretty good job of masking your tracks on the Internet. Not that it makes you completely anonymous, mind you, just makes it pretty tough for others to trace your steps and see where you have been.
Link Posted: 10/26/2001 5:07:12 AM EDT
Is it bad to be an AR-15 owner, operator, and entusiast? What exactly am I doing wrong by being here? I don't really feel I have anything to be ashamed of or worry about. (FWIW, My Co. -bigger and more uptight in a corporate, P.C. way than most, believe me- has written policy stating that it's A-OK for employees to utilize their e-mail and internet access for private purposes as long as it doesn't interfere with their, or others, work.)
Link Posted: 10/26/2001 6:19:38 AM EDT
Originally Posted By GTTacoma: It's an old text-based web browser [url]http://lynx.browser.org/[/url]
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How do you install this damn thing? On 2000...
Link Posted: 10/26/2001 6:20:58 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Boomer: I don't usually go online at work (kind of hard to get Internet access in the cab of a locomotive) but has anyone tried www.safeweb.com?
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LOL, I just tried to go to safeweb, and the bastards have it blocked at the firewall.
Link Posted: 10/26/2001 6:26:01 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Dolomite: Is it bad to be an AR-15 owner, operator, and entusiast? What exactly am I doing wrong by being here? I don't really feel I have anything to be ashamed of or worry about.
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There's nothing wrong with looking at AR15.com at work, but it sucks to have your company's log files contain links to Frank the Spank's scat pictures.
Link Posted: 10/26/2001 6:31:58 AM EDT
Link Posted: 10/26/2001 6:37:06 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/26/2001 6:31:26 AM EDT by DoubleFeed]
Link Posted: 10/26/2001 6:39:12 AM EDT
Well, since I'm self employed, I'm sure the boss won't mind! [;)] Bulldog OUT
Link Posted: 10/26/2001 6:42:36 AM EDT
Goatboy, yer just havin' way too much fun. [smoke]
Link Posted: 10/26/2001 6:51:22 AM EDT
Originally Posted By GoatBoy:... [url]http://www.jobrelatedstuff.com[/url] ...)
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DAMN YOU GOATBOY!!! I hate spewing coffee out through my nostrils. I have a couple of ways of avoiding detection. A) I work at home from 6:00 AM to about 9:30. B) From the office, I use PCAnywhere with encryption to control another machine, e.g. my computer at home or one of our big database servers. [50]
Link Posted: 10/26/2001 6:57:37 AM EDT
I'm in charge of the network, so the only persona that can fire me is me. And yes, we do track where everyone goes. But it's a waste of time to check the logs. Unless somebody complains, the filter usually blocks sites such as this. Although I have a nice collection of porn sites that people try to visit on a regular basis here... Av.
Link Posted: 10/26/2001 6:58:37 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/26/2001 6:53:02 AM EDT by Maddock]
Originally Posted By GoatBoy: [url]http://www.jobrelatedstuff.com[/url]
LOL Thank You GoatBoy - you brightened a bad day! [:o)]
Link Posted: 10/26/2001 7:05:53 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/26/2001 7:00:03 AM EDT by Quarterbore]
Originally Posted By GoatBoy: You can actually get into the site now through this new "backdoor" but the images and code have not yet been written for "neutralization" of the site... More on this project later... but the top secret URL (for those who wish to at least surf through it for the time being) is [url]http://www.jobrelatedstuff.com[/url]
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You are a true friend! Of cource when whomever looks at the use logs sees that your computer has thousands of hits on jobrelatedstuff.com they might just get curious. Just the same... THANKS!
Link Posted: 10/26/2001 7:13:17 AM EDT
Link Posted: 10/26/2001 7:51:59 AM EDT
working for the gubmint has up and downsides. I get great speed of connections off the LAN but all of the sites do get logged. The problem that was brought up first is that the company you work for does own everything that you do. They can go after you for something as simple as using their electricity for your wastfull web surfing, can't say I know of anyone that has actually been busted for it, but the possibilty exists. Take care, someone is watching you.!! TRW
Link Posted: 10/26/2001 8:03:40 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/26/2001 8:01:26 AM EDT by Avalon01]
Sorry Goatboy, but the site is already blocked by our filters. I checked just for fun. ---------------------- Access to this web page is restricted at this time. Reason: The Websense category "Weapons" is filtered. ----------------------- URL: http://www.jobrelatedstuff.com/ They are quick over there! Av. Editied to say my name just poped up on our proxy server for trying to visit a blocked site. Looks like Websence is pretty quick to pick up new websites. According to the reps, they check all sites that apply for a domain.
Link Posted: 10/26/2001 8:07:53 AM EDT
In my shop I just trust the users. If they are screwing around on the net....no problem. As long as they get their job done in a satisfactory manner nobody cares. Keeping track of web access was one of the first things that was discussed when I came here, boss didn't want to do it and I agreed. All of the users here are free to do whatever they want with their machines, as long as it is legal and doesn't interfere with network operations.
Link Posted: 10/26/2001 8:25:36 AM EDT
Since we are a school district, we have to watch our employees a lot more closely. The last thing I want is to be slapped with a lawsuit because little Billy was looking at porn in class. And god forbid a staff member look at porn. I've been down that road before, not pretty. Really fucks up the rest of your life. Av.
Link Posted: 10/26/2001 8:33:32 AM EDT
Boomer I hear that the EMD MAC-90s come with an optional PC. Can you talk your company into ordering them with the PC.
Link Posted: 10/26/2001 11:38:41 AM EDT
Hell, forget about 'net access - I get a bill from my Co just from the electricity usage alone!
Link Posted: 10/26/2001 12:29:01 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/26/2001 12:32:41 PM EDT
Just a simple question - if I access my personal AOL acct via the TCP-IP line at work and then go to this website (and others) while on AOL, would my employer be able to track where I am going?
Link Posted: 10/26/2001 12:34:35 PM EDT
I too don't have much to sweat, being the network guy and all. In fact we don't filter, block, or monitor anyone or anything. I visit here, firingline.com, kitco (goldbugs site) check my bank balance, credit cards and brokerage account all from my office. Besides, if anyone wanted to start monitoring me I know how to disable it, although I know most corporations use Windows NT systems set up so users are locked out of making system changes unless they are IT people. But it should be possible to see if you are running any monitoring software, even if you can't unload it. Heck, we use Win 98, with no security. Our "firewall" is a $300 dsl router, and Zonealarm on each pc. I don't know if I can even block any urls. [scratches head] I also keep private stuff on my pc, but it is encrypted with 140 bit encryption, and in hidden directories. In fact some of my work files are treated the same way, for the same reasons- my pc is the one we use to do wire transfers! And any deleted files are wiped to DoD specifications. Browser history files cleaned every night. Not that I am paranoid [:D]
Link Posted: 10/26/2001 12:37:32 PM EDT
Always surf from the university library- FREE DSL! Bwahahahaha! [+]:D] Seriously, they have monitors and blocks on just about everything here... I go to a proxy such as [url]www.safeweb.com[/url] or [url]www.anonymizer.com[/url] first... Never answer my email on school comps, less my password fall into the wrong hands.
Link Posted: 10/26/2001 12:41:05 PM EDT
Originally Posted By GoatBoy: You can actually get into the site now through this new "backdoor" but the images and code have not yet been written for "neutralization" of the site... More on this project later... but the top secret URL (for those who wish to at least surf through it for the time being) is [url]http://www.jobrelatedstuff.com[/url]
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I just tested it with Websense for Checkpoint Firewall-1, which we use here at work and it didn't get through. Most decent web proxy/blocking apps will catch that one because both www.ar15.com and www.jobrelatedstuff.com point to the same IP address, and it seems most of the blocking apps have gone to using straight IP addresses. If you make www.jobrelatedstuff.com point to a different IP address assigned to the server it should work, at least for a while. God Bless Texas
Link Posted: 10/26/2001 12:43:30 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Chimborazo:
Originally Posted By Boomer: I don't usually go online at work (kind of hard to get Internet access in the cab of a locomotive) but has anyone tried www.safeweb.com?
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LOL, I just tried to go to safeweb, and the bastards have it blocked at the firewall.
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You need triangleboy to spoof their proxy.
Link Posted: 10/26/2001 12:44:19 PM EDT
Originally Posted By DoubleFeed: I just wanted to let you know that everything you do on the company's computers belongs to the company. The company owns your activities and everything you write....
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It helps to BE the IT director. Then you can do whatever you feel like doing.
Link Posted: 10/26/2001 12:47:57 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Avalon01: Looks like Websence is pretty quick to pick up new websites. According to the reps, they check all sites that apply for a domain.
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Websense is VERY easy to defeat. Install Proxy Client on your workstation and then remove the proxy settings from your network properties. Set the gateway to be the router IP addy. No more ISAPI Websense filtering at the MS Proxy level.
Link Posted: 10/26/2001 12:48:15 PM EDT
For those of you with root-level access to a UNIX webserver, I use CGIProxy to view ar15.com at work. [url]http://www.jmarshall.com/tools/cgiproxy/[/url] It's free and it works. God Bless Texas
Link Posted: 10/26/2001 12:52:21 PM EDT
Originally Posted By BenDover: It helps to BE the IT director. Then you can do whatever you feel like doing.
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Not in all cases. I got to ask the Director of IT Oversight and Business Control what she was doing looking at www.fuckedcompany.com when I was the network security guy at a large Houston-based energy company. She had heard that there was information posted about our company there and was looking for it. Since we both knew each other it was no big deal and she knew I was just playing around, but it was fun giving her the gestapho treatment because she used to be in the CIA. She was strictly an information gatherer, but a very bright woman. God Bless Texas
Link Posted: 10/26/2001 12:54:54 PM EDT
Originally Posted By BenDover: Websense is VERY easy to defeat. Install Proxy Client on your workstation and then remove the proxy settings from your network properties. Set the gateway to be the router IP addy. No more ISAPI Websense filtering at the MS Proxy level.
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That doesn't work when the firewall is the box running websense, and it only allows HTTP requests through the HTTP proxy/cache. It also doesn't work if you're not on a Windows box. I'm generally surrounded by SGI and SUN workstations/servers all day. God Bless Texas
Link Posted: 10/26/2001 12:57:03 PM EDT
Originally Posted By GoatBoy: Although there's not much I can do about the spammed garbage (why are you clickin on those topics anyhow!?!?!?!) there is an effort in the works for a "covert" entry into the site... You can actually get into the site now through this new "backdoor" but the images and code have not yet been written for "neutralization" of the site... More on this project later... but the top secret URL (for those who wish to at least surf through it for the time being) is [url]http://www.jobrelatedstuff.com[/url] Aint I a funny/f'd up beotch??? Anything to get my fix!!! (Of course with no "boss" I pretty much do what I want...)
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LMAO.. Thats awsome...
Link Posted: 10/26/2001 1:48:24 PM EDT
Originally Posted By GodBlessTexas: That doesn't work when the firewall is the box running websense, and it only allows HTTP requests through the HTTP proxy/cache. It also doesn't work if you're not on a Windows box. I'm generally surrounded by SGI and SUN workstations/servers all day. God Bless Texas
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Hmmm...what are you doing to those poor un*x boxes? Mine work fine through fw/ws..... Anyways, if you have a static IP DSL or Cable connection at home, learn how to run a proxy. Or, find someone who has a host on the net that runs a proxy and beg them to help you out. I occasionally set up folks I like with proxy access on my box. [:)] I think the ultimate would be to setup a https site that you can browse to, then from there proxy off onto other places. Hmm...
Link Posted: 10/26/2001 1:55:46 PM EDT
Originally Posted By sfoo: Hmmm...what are you doing to those poor un*x boxes? Mine work fine through fw/ws.....
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They run various applications related to the oil and gas industry and process seismic data.
Anyways, if you have a static IP DSL or Cable connection at home, learn how to run a proxy. Or, find someone who has a host on the net that runs a proxy and beg them to help you out. I occasionally set up folks I like with proxy access on my box. [:)] I think the ultimate would be to setup a https site that you can browse to, then from there proxy off onto other places. Hmm...
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As I posted two messages above the one you quoted, I use the CGIProxy PERL script running on a UNIX web server I have root access to off-sight. God Bless Texas
Link Posted: 10/26/2001 2:04:44 PM EDT
Aw man, scam yourself a box. I get an ultra5 for my desktop. Trying to work into a new SunFire desktop...company's not going for it yet, though... Of course, I still have to have LookOut for email [:(] so I end up with the Winblows box also. I run Squid, personally. We use it a work for other stuff to boot.
Link Posted: 10/26/2001 2:17:06 PM EDT
I'm only a backfill here, so I was given an Ultra 1 when I started in August. They decided to give me an Ultra 10 here since they plan on keeping me on longer and of the new guys I do most of the work. At my old job I had on my desk at least one Ultra 5, two compaq DeskPro's (Running Win2k and OpenBSD for development and testing), and a whole bunch of Netra T1 105's. I had a picture I took right before I got laid off that was pretty impressive. I even worked my unamaerican.com stickers into the picture. God Bless Texas
Link Posted: 10/26/2001 2:49:53 PM EDT
Originally Posted By GoatBoy: [url]http://www.jobrelatedstuff.com[/url]
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That's great! People still get a little scared with the AR15.com logo though... For URL fun there's also: Safeweb by itself: [url]https://64.124.150.10[/url] AR15.com: [url]https://www.safeweb.com/o/_i:http://208.245.134.228/[/url] [url]208.245.134.228[/url] [url]3505751780[/url] [url]http://www.senate.gov_feinstein@3505751780[/url] [url]http://www.goatboys-fun-sheep-ranch@3505751780[/url] [url]http://www.bloomberg.com@3505751780[/url] Some of the above won't work on Netscape browsers, only Internet Explorer. Not sure about AOL...
Link Posted: 10/26/2001 6:18:16 PM EDT
I was just informed by my boss that although we have porn filters on the Internet feed I am authorized to attempt to open porn links, and to use our live servers to browse anything including porn links. I am a systems engineer, and need freedom to make sure things are working or not working as required. I am the one who gets called during off hours to "fix" external links on our Web site that have changed from appropriate educational content to something other than appropriate educational content. ar15.com is one of the best educational sites on the Internet, especially if you want to learn about AR-15s.
Link Posted: 10/26/2001 7:09:19 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/27/2001 11:49:38 AM EDT
Well, since I work in a College Computer lab, my job is to help people out, and since there that doesn't happen to often, I get to surf where ever I want, and that is usually here. Plus, I bring in my computer to do the surfer, since it is faster than the ones they have here. Hehehe
Link Posted: 10/27/2001 7:46:16 PM EDT
My thinking has always been that as long as I get the work done that they're paying me for, a little web browsing should not be a problem. Luckily, the two companies I've worked for for the past few years have agreed. As to ripping them off for electricity and machine usage, they're not paying me for the work I do from home, so I figure they still come out ahead in the end. Besides, that's a pretty bogus argument anyway, as the machine would be sitting there sucking power anyway. At the company where I was an IT guy, we didn't have any monitoring software on our systems. We figured that we hired grown-ups and expected them to behave as such. It's a rare employee that is perfect in every way except that they keep surfing porn in the office. Most people with that sort of work ethic tend to get laid off for other reasons anyway.
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