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Posted: 10/24/2001 2:37:20 PM EDT
that was my thread, i didn't see what was wrong. i can see what could have been a porblem, (the penis jokes, yeah i said penis) but i don't want this to turn into GD tv. can't swear or show topless chicks. hey guys get out of the house and go to the "real" world. i got in, i worked in a mechanics shop for a summer, i learned a lot and i don't mean about trucks.... about life. guess what, people swear. people make dirty jokes, people lear at women, people make racist and sexist comments, people lie, people "mickey mouse" (if you don't know ask) jobs, people aren't all nice to you immediatly. hell only 1 out of 10 guys talked to me the whole first month. did i bitch and moan?? no i just put my head down and did my work. eventulay (sp? you damn right) they opened up to me. =============================== =============================== stop caring about spelling you want porn, find it on the internet you want to swear, go right the fuck ahead you want your boy on your lap, great! look up mr. rogers. don't like what someone is doing? tell em. give them a better (actual) suggestion. don't post pics of people shitting, cause then everything goes crazy and i have to type this sort of stuff. if you get flaming steaming mad, go get an axe, put steelies on and go chop wood. builds muscles, hand-eye co-ordination, and gets your anger out in a productive way. if your happy, by the jesus, tell us about it, i want as much joy in my life as i can. if your sad, by the jesus, tell us about it. someone (me) will try and help you through it. if you wnat to rant, by the jesus, tell us about it. write "this is a rant" at the top of your post. if you want to talk about illegal things, by the jesus, tell us about it. post "this is illegal" at the top of your thread, it's your risk. do what you want. i would like to see a "truck of the day" and a "atv of the day" and a "funny things i did today of the day" and a "things i ate/drank today of the day" and lots of other "of the day" stuff. man that felt great to get out. for the love of god, post your reply to this. negative or positive OffRoad [ Edited By OFFROAD on 10/24/2001 6:25:06 PM ]
Link Posted: 10/24/2001 2:43:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/24/2001 2:38:42 PM EDT by I_Luv_Carrots]
Very well. I fucking Hate Canada. I think those snow rodents are no better than any given African nation, and are only civil because they have to live indoors for 9 months out of the year. They are drunkards on a wholesale level, and beat thier wives. Your nation could easily be confised for a nation of Irishmen, only a lower education. I hope we invade you, kill you, and salt the earth where that pathetic bitch of a British province, Canada, once stood. Your people are weak, stupid, and cursed by god to lives of freezing cold, since even God doesn't like Canadians Canadians. The Second Lowest Humans on the Evoloutianry Scale.
Link Posted: 10/24/2001 2:54:06 PM EDT
lol that's the funnies thing i've read all day. i supprot you wanting to say that. lol rotflmao amn that was funny. you can have montreal, nobody like them . hahaahahhahaahhahahahahahahahahaha!!!!! OffRoad
Link Posted: 10/24/2001 3:02:33 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/24/2001 3:07:36 PM EDT
Offroad, the point is that you don't own the AR15.com domain, the servers that the name points to, or pay the bandwidth necessary to run it. As such [b]YOU DON'T GET TO MAKE THE RULES![/b] Neither do I for that mater. Ultimately, Goatboy does, and if he doesn't like something that we do then he's completely within his rights to ask us to not do it or leave. I guess some of us are having a hard time differentiating between martial law and basic tact. No one here would go over to Goatboy's house and start acting like a moron, so why do we think it's ok to do it on [b]HIS[/b] web board? Hopefully most of us would have the decency to not go out in public speaking in oscenities and flashing the centerfold of nudie magazines at people. Even in the Babe of the Day thread, people couldn't follow the simple rule that if a picture contains nudity, then it should be a link with an appropriate disclaimer. It won't be fun when the site gets shutdown because some teenager, and there are plenty on here, gets caught seeing some naked woman by his mom and she raises a hissy fit and decides to do something about it. Sure, we can still joke around and do most of the things we've done in the past, but we must also be mindful of the other people who read this board. None of us is more important than the rest of us. And ultimately what Goatboy says goes. His house, his rules. If you, I, or anyone else doesn't like it then we shouldn't be here. As they say, the freedom of the press is limited to those who own one. And our freedom ends where others' begins. God Bless Texas
Link Posted: 10/24/2001 3:10:59 PM EDT
OffRoad, the things you mentioned, while common, are not things people do in public. You don't generally see people speaking to a group and swearing. You generally don't hear people making racist or sexually explicit jokes in front of a large group of people they don't know. You're trying to apply the rules that you've been using with a small group of buddies to a large group of people. It just doesn't work. Do the things that are generally accepted here make more sense now?z
Link Posted: 10/24/2001 3:11:22 PM EDT
Originally Posted By I_Luv_Carrots: Very well. I fucking Hate Canada....
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I hate Finland too. The Canadians and the Finns are conspiring to invade our country, and here in San Diego we are particularly vulnerable to their treachery. We're protected from Canada by a slim 3-state margin with only a token US military presence. Eighty-Nine Fifty or Fight! [50]
Link Posted: 10/24/2001 3:14:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/24/2001 3:10:00 PM EDT by OffRoad]
i swear a lot. i should prolly try to stop. lol i make dirty jokes. once at a party we were all drunk at started making black jokes. we made any black we could think of. we were all white. lol. what do you call 14,000 black guys skydiving? night. lol we had a million of them. now you guys all think i'm a skinhead... i've been mistaken for one more than once... almost got beat up by 40 whiggers. OffRoad
Link Posted: 10/24/2001 3:18:04 PM EDT
GBT) No one is contending the rights of the site admin's to set down the rules as they see fit. What often comes into question is "why" some things are done. They have the right to do whatever they want to, but without members, there would be no site. The members at least deserve the basic respect to have the actions of the mods justified. Yes, this is thier site- But [size=4]WE![/size=4] are the site, and as such, deserve consideration for it. This isn't Goatboys house. This is a public web board. Look at it like a bar. His bar. He has the right to throw out those who are getting obnixous, but it doesn't make sense to throw out everyone just becasue they are drinking beer. After all. That's the nature of a bar. Same goes with a BBS. Those who are doing things for shock value deserve to get whacked. But those who are exchanging ideas (even if unpopular) shouldn't be disturbed- Since the exchange of ideas is the whole point of a BBS in the first place. The problem resides when the mods go on thier little slash and burn campaigns. I think they are thinking "I'LL SHOW THOSE DAMN MEMBERS! THIS'LL KEEP 'EM IN LINE!" and the padlocks rain in. They will understand one day how fucking unbelievably retarded a method of operation that is. Until that point, we just have to deal with them. They will learn only after thier methods cause teh loss of an appreciable amount of good members. There will always be those who "want" mods, and who want to be controled. They wilkl praise whatever they do. The type of people who thank the cop after getting a ticket. Those people have probelms. The rest of us just want to be left alone.
Link Posted: 10/24/2001 3:33:57 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/24/2001 3:35:48 PM EDT
Originally Posted By I_Luv_Carrots: What often comes into question is "why" some things are done.
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I have no problem with that. Some of the topics that have been locked for obvious reasons if people have actually read the code of conduct. Some have not been so obvious. I've been on other enthusiast web boards, and they at least have the courtesy to make a post detailing why a thread is being locked or moved before doing so. The moderators here should do the same, if only to satisfy the curiosity of those who will scream "WHY WAS MY POST LOCKED?!"
They have the right to do whatever they want to, but without members, there would be no site. The members at least deserve the basic respect to have the actions of the mods justified. Yes, this is thier site- But [size=4]WE![/size=4] are the site, and as such, deserve consideration for it.
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I said exactly that here: [url]www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?id=63834&page=2[/url]
Those who are doing things for shock value deserve to get whacked. But those who are exchanging ideas (even if unpopular) shouldn't be disturbed- Since the exchange of ideas is the whole point of a BBS in the first place.
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I agree completely.
The problem resides when the mods go on thier little slash and burn campaigns. I think they are thinking "I'LL SHOW THOSE DAMN MEMBERS! THIS'LL KEEP 'EM IN LINE!" and the padlocks rain in. They will understand one day how fucking unbelievably retarded a method of operation that is. Until that point, we just have to deal with them. They will learn only after thier methods cause teh loss of an appreciable amount of good members.
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That would truly be sad, but I agree with you that it's likely to happen.
There will always be those who "want" mods, and who want to be controled. The rest of us just want to be left alone.
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I just want the mods to adhere to the rules they are supposed to be enforcing just like I expect a police officer to adhere to the laws he's enforcing. Locking threads indiscriminately isn't living up to that standard. God Bless Texas
Link Posted: 10/24/2001 3:46:54 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/24/2001 5:18:43 PM EDT
Originally Posted By GodBlessTexas: Offroad, the point is that you don't own the AR15.com domain, the servers that the name points to, or pay the bandwidth necessary to run it. As such [b]YOU DON'T GET TO MAKE THE RULES![/b] Neither do I for that mater. Ultimately, Goatboy does, and if he doesn't like something that we do then he's completely within his rights to ask us to not do it or leave. I guess some of us are having a hard time differentiating between martial law and basic tact. No one here would go over to Goatboy's house and start acting like a moron, so why do we think it's ok to do it on [b]HIS[/b] web board? Hopefully most of us would have the decency to not go out in public speaking in oscenities and flashing the centerfold of nudie magazines at people. Even in the Babe of the Day thread, people couldn't follow the simple rule that if a picture contains nudity, then it should be a link with an appropriate disclaimer. It won't be fun when the site gets shutdown because some teenager, and there are plenty on here, gets caught seeing some naked woman by his mom and she raises a hissy fit and decides to do something about it. Sure, we can still joke around and do most of the things we've done in the past, but we must also be mindful of the other people who read this board. None of us is more important than the rest of us. And ultimately what Goatboy says goes. His house, his rules. If you, I, or anyone else doesn't like it then we shouldn't be here. As they say, the freedom of the press is limited to those who own one. And our freedom ends where others' begins. God Bless Texas
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YEAH!! What He Said!! [:D]
Link Posted: 10/24/2001 5:24:16 PM EDT
sweep: i agree with you. seriously, i wish everone was nice. but (sadly) everyone isn't. too bad.
Link Posted: 10/24/2001 5:26:42 PM EDT
Originally Posted By OffRoad: that was my thread, i didn't see what was wrong. i can see what could have been a porblem, (the penis jokes, yeah i said penis) but i don't want this to turn into GD tv. can't swear or show topless chicks. hey guys get out of the house and go to the "real" world. i got in, i worked in a mechanics shop for a summer, i learned a lot and i don't mean about trucks.... about life. guess what, people swear. people make dirty jokes, people lear at women, people make racist and sexist comments, people lie, people "mickey mouse" (if you don't know ask) jobs, people aren't all nice to you immediatly. hell only 1 out of 10 guys talked to me the whole first month. did i bitch and moan?? no i just put my head down and did my work. eventulay (sp? you damn right) they opened up to me. =============================== =============================== stop caring about spelling you want porn, find it on the internet you want to swear, go right the fuck ahead you want your boy on your lap, great! look up mr. rogers. don't like what someone is doing? tell em. give them a better (actual) suggestion. don't post pics of people shitting, cause then everything goes crazy and i have to type this sort of stuff. if you get flaming steaming mad, go get an axe, put steelies on and go chop wood. builds muscles, hand-eye co-ordination, and gets your anger out in a productive way. if your happy, by the jesus, tell us about it, i want as much joy in my life as i can. if your sad, by the jesus, tell us about it. someone (me) will try and help you through it. if you wnat to rant, by the jesus, tell us about it. write "this is a rant" at the top of your post. if you want to talk about illegal things, by the jesus, tell us about it. post "this is illegal" at the top of your thread, it's your risk. do what you want. i would like to see a "truck of the day" and a "atv of the day" and a "funny things i did today of the day" and a "things i ate/drank today of the day" and lots of other "of the day" stuff. man that felt great to get out. for the love of god, post your reply to this. negative or positive OffRoad [ Edited By OFFROAD on 10/24/2001 6:25:06 PM ]
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Offroad, I don't know why, but you are one of the members I hate most on this board. I think it's because you are a troll, and do nothing but post stupid shit tons of times per day, attemping to fit in, and raise that post count. Very similar to cyrax777, cept he just replies a lot, appemting to fit in.
Link Posted: 10/24/2001 5:28:26 PM EDT
Originally Posted By I_Luv_Carrots: Very well. I fucking Hate Canada. I think those snow rodents are no better than any given African nation, and are only civil because they have to live indoors for 9 months out of the year. They are drunkards on a wholesale level, and beat thier wives. Your nation could easily be confised for a nation of Irishmen, only a lower education. I hope we invade you, kill you, and salt the earth where that pathetic bitch of a British province, Canada, once stood. Your people are weak, stupid, and cursed by god to lives of freezing cold, since even God doesn't like Canadians Canadians. The Second Lowest Humans on the Evoloutianry Scale.
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Ditto. We oughta just nuke them bastards, nothing good every came outta there, and their women just look like dogs!
Link Posted: 10/24/2001 5:30:37 PM EDT
I agree with Offroad, to some extent. We get so concerned about appearances that we forget that the people involved are real PEOPLE. Frankly, my druthers would be a board where you can say what you want, as long as you're ready to get flamed for it if it's stupid.
Link Posted: 10/24/2001 5:38:03 PM EDT
to floater: first of all, sorry i was bothering you. i am trying to fit in, but that's what you do when you meet a new group of people, it's natural. i'm sorry you don't like some of the things i post, before now i can't remember you ever voicing your objections. sorry. secondly, if i said all the women where you live are ugly, you'd get mad. i think a lot of the women around were i live are pretty. all i have to do to verify that is walk around outside. please notice i'm not screaming. i was screaming before now i'm calmed down. it hurts to be told i'm hated. not my race or my interests. me. i feel sad now. why don't you know why you hate me. maybe you don't. when i hate something, which is rare, i know why. most of the time i don't hate something, i just dislike it heavily. i'm befuddled. i welcome your feedback (not being sarcastic) OffRoad
Link Posted: 10/24/2001 5:49:15 PM EDT
to floater: first of all, sorry i was bothering you. i am trying to fit in, but that's what you do when you meet a new group of people, it's natural. i'm sorry you don't like some of the things i post, before now i can't remember you ever voicing your objections. sorry. secondly, if i said all the women where you live are ugly, you'd get mad. i think a lot of the women around were i live are pretty. all i have to do to verify that is walk around outside. please notice i'm not screaming. i was screaming before now i'm calmed down. it hurts to be told i'm hated. not my race or my interests. me. i feel sad now. why don't you know why you hate me. maybe you don't. when i hate something, which is rare, i know why. most of the time i don't hate something, i just dislike it heavily. i'm befuddled. i welcome your feedback (not being sarcastic) OffRoad
Link Posted: 10/24/2001 5:51:08 PM EDT
sorry for accidental double post.
Link Posted: 10/24/2001 6:06:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/24/2001 6:01:30 PM EDT by Robbie]
To expand on GodBlessTexas' reply to:
can't swear or show topless chicks.
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Yes...you can. You can do anything you want...even here. However, if you do, GB will do what he wants and toss you out of the pool. And you can always start your own site...it's been done before and make your own rules. And expanding on what Sweep pointed out on:
guess what, people swear. people make dirty jokes, people lear at women, people make racist and sexist comments, people lie, people "mickey mouse" (if you don't know ask) jobs, people aren't all nice to you immediatly.
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People do a lot of things. Some of them have made the papers since Sept. 11th based on what they did. But more relevant is what you would ask yourself, "What am I going to do?"
Link Posted: 10/24/2001 6:26:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/24/2001 6:23:47 PM EDT by AmOTramp]
Let us be nice, there is no need to get personal~on~ the board. Remember to always wash your bellybuttons, lest they get infected and stink like a dead carp. Edited forgot----->~on~ the board.
Link Posted: 10/24/2001 11:31:22 PM EDT
Originally Posted By OffRoad: to floater: first of all, sorry i was bothering you. i am trying to fit in, but that's what you do when you meet a new group of people, it's natural. i'm sorry you don't like some of the things i post, before now i can't remember you ever voicing your objections. sorry. secondly, if i said all the women where you live are ugly, you'd get mad. i think a lot of the women around were i live are pretty. all i have to do to verify that is walk around outside. please notice i'm not screaming. i was screaming before now i'm calmed down. it hurts to be told i'm hated. not my race or my interests. me. i feel sad now. why don't you know why you hate me. maybe you don't. when i hate something, which is rare, i know why. most of the time i don't hate something, i just dislike it heavily. i'm befuddled. i welcome your feedback (not being sarcastic) OffRoad
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Honestly? I think it's mostly the way your name looks. "OffRoad" just looked weird.. lol, sorry, but it's true.. cant help what ya hate, can ya?
Link Posted: 10/25/2001 12:21:32 AM EDT
Originally Posted By I_Luv_Carrots: Very well. I fucking Hate Canada. I think those snow rodents are no better than any given African nation, and are only civil because they have to live indoors for 9 months out of the year. They are drunkards on a wholesale level, and beat thier wives. Your nation could easily be confised for a nation of Irishmen, only a lower education. I hope we invade you, kill you, and salt the earth where that pathetic bitch of a British province, Canada, once stood. Your people are weak, stupid, and cursed by god to lives of freezing cold, since even God doesn't like Canadians Canadians. The Second Lowest Humans on the Evoloutianry Scale.
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Hmmm.. I take it that you think we should Nuke Canada? So... It looks like I've got to set up a cot for Striker in our bunker. [+]:D]
Link Posted: 10/25/2001 12:37:46 AM EDT
Originally Posted By OffRoad: to floater: first of all, sorry i was bothering you. i am trying to fit in, but that's what you do when you meet a new group of people, it's natural. i'm sorry you don't like some of the things i post, before now i can't remember you ever voicing your objections. sorry. secondly, if i said all the women where you live are ugly, you'd get mad. i think a lot of the women around were i live are pretty. all i have to do to verify that is walk around outside. please notice i'm not screaming. i was screaming before now i'm calmed down. it hurts to be told i'm hated. not my race or my interests. me. i feel sad now. why don't you know why you hate me. maybe you don't. when i hate something, which is rare, i know why. most of the time i don't hate something, i just dislike it heavily. i'm befuddled. i welcome your feedback (not being sarcastic) OffRoad
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Personally buddy, you posting the same rant over and over again isn't going to win you any friends. Also, I firmly agree with GodBlessTexas. The fact of the matter is you opinion doesn't really matter, Goatboy's does. With that being said, I believe this sight requires active participation in an as unfettered enviornment as possible in order to generate some great discussion. But you must recognize that there are clear boundaries which must be set to make the site more than a bunch of monkies flinging their feces at one another. If you actually read the conduct code its pretty fair and simple. I mean who can argue with rules against pure trolling, fraudulent practices, and general self-restraint. Now, everyone knows I have committed my fair share of offenses on the board, but my still being here should be testament to the fact the moderators are in fact quite lenient and will tolerate most anything that isn't terribly offensive.
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