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Posted: 10/23/2001 12:21:53 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/23/2001 12:29:44 PM EDT
Originally Posted By mike103: Hello, I am new to this site. I shoot skeet, trap and hunt. I bought a AR-15 in 1993, shot it a couple of times and left it in the safe. In light of 9-11-01 I took it out dusted it off, bought two cases of Winchester Q3131A and started shooting it again. My question is is it a authentic Colt model or was it put together with parts. Two people told me it was built with parts. The left side of the reciever states it is a Colt Sporter #SL0026XX .223 with a black metal and plastic folding stock,it is 32 1/4" long folded and 35 1/2" extended. It has a 16" threaded barrel with a 5" flash suppressor with long slits in the side. Under the suppressor stamped on the barrel is "CMP 5.56 Nato 1/7". There is no bayonet lug and the right side of the front sight is stamped SO7 with R1 inside the O. The right side of the upper has "CM" on it. It has a 6" ribbed forearm, black nylon sling with a 9"pad on the sling. The dealer I bought it from stated it was new but did not have a box or papers. Is it a real Colt or was it pieced together? I also bought a Ruger Mini-14 ranch SS since 9-11-01. Why is this gun not liked by many on this site? I shot it and it is dependable like my 10-22 and original .44 carbine. Thanks in advance, MIKE.
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Folding stock or collapasable stock? I don't think Colt ever put a folding stock on any of their rifles. Ian
Link Posted: 10/23/2001 12:35:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/23/2001 12:31:34 PM EDT by California_Kid]
I can't offer any information on your AR, but the Mini-14 gets a bad rap here for a couple of sound reasons. (I own one BTW.): - The AR-15 has a big advantage in that it is more easily configurable. The barrel and sights are separate from the guts of the action (lower receiver) and can be changed without special tools or expertise. This allows the owner to switch among variety of different upper receiver assemblies with different barrel lengths and sight cofigurations for various situations without any gunsmithing. This also allows the AR-15 to be accurized much more easily. You can buy very accurate uppers off the shelf. Rebarrelling a Mini-14 is not something an amateur can readily do. - Another big advantage is that the selective-fire AR-15 (M16, etc.) is in use by the US military and many others. This makes for a great supply of surplus magazines and other parts that can be interchanged with civilian rifles. Magazines are a big headache for the Mini-14 because its selective-fire version, the AC-556, has not been widely adopted for military use. AND the manufacturer actually favored restriction of magazine capacity for civilian use. The Mini-14 is a good rifle for the price. But this is AR-15 country. BTW I also own a 10/22 and an original .44 Carbine, 1963 vintage, and love them both. And Welcome!
Link Posted: 10/23/2001 12:56:14 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/23/2001 12:59:54 PM EDT
Originally Posted By mike103: I bought a AR-15 in 1993, shot it a couple of times and left it in the safe.
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Lucky you! You now own a preban weapon. Probably worth more than you bought it for unless you got gouged in 93.
The left side of the reciever states it is a Colt Sporter #SL0026XX .223
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That makes the most important part (the lower) an authentic Colt Preban lower.
with a black metal and plastic folding stock,it is 32 1/4" long folded and 35 1/2" extended.
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I can only assume you mean "collapsible" sotck. Have not seen many AR15 folders out there. It should "collapse" on its tube to become shorter..... I believe Colt Sporter lightweight carbines shipped with these on there, should be a 2 or 3 position stock if factory, IIRC.
It has a 16" threaded barrel with a 5" flash suppressor with long slits in the side.
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A 16" barrel with a 5" FH.. for a total of 21"??? That is definitely a parts gun if true. Never seen that one! If you mean the 11" barrel, with the 5" FH, for a total of 16", then that is more common. I dont know if Colt ever shipped that as a factory rifle... someone else will have to comment on that.
Under the suppressor stamped on the barrel is "CMP 5.56 Nato 1/7".
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That's a Colt barrel.
There is no bayonet lug
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Threaded barrel and no bayo lug screams Colt, in that era.
and the right side of the front sight is stamped SO7 with R1 inside the O. The right side of the upper has "CM" on it. It has a 6" ribbed forearm, black nylon sling with a 9"pad on the sling. The dealer I bought it from stated it was new but did not have a box or papers. Is it a real Colt or was it pieced together?
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I dont know about those other markings. Someone else can comment... If Colt did sell the 11/5.5" Combo as a complete rifle back then, then you have a factory configration. At the worst, what you have is mostly likely all Colt.
Link Posted: 10/23/2001 2:32:19 PM EDT
Is it a chrome barrel? Look at the barrel extension locking lugs for a little chrome plating residual. The top 1/2 of the lugs will have a different color from the chrome if its a chrome bore. If its a 16" barrel, take the flash suppressor off. Clean the muzzle with solvent etc to remove powder fouling. You will see a chrome circle about 5/16" in diameter if the barrel is chrome and its a factory length barrel. A dead giveaway of a chopped barrel would be bare metal or non-Parkerized threads and reduced diameter section at the muzzle. If its an 11.5" barrel, you shouldn't be able to take the supressor off as it will be permanently affixed. If you can, you have a parts gun. Why? 16" minimum barrel rule. FIX IT PERMANENTLY NOW!!! ITS ILLEGAL TO INSTALL ON A RIFLE!
Link Posted: 10/23/2001 3:02:05 PM EDT
Originally Posted By mike103: My question is is it a authentic Colt model or was it put together with parts. Two people told me it was built with parts. The left side of the reciever states it is a Colt Sporter #SL0026XX .223 with a black metal and plastic folding stock,it is 32 1/4" long folded and 35 1/2" extended. It has a 16" threaded barrel with a 5" flash suppressor with long slits in the side. Under the suppressor stamped on the barrel is "CMP 5.56 Nato 1/7". There is no bayonet lug and the right side of the front sight is stamped SO7 with R1 inside the O. The right side of the upper has "CM" on it. It has a 6" ribbed forearm, black nylon sling with a 9"pad on the sling. The dealer I bought it from stated it was new but did not have a box or papers. Is it a real Colt or was it pieced together?
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There's no real way to tell. You could contact Colt and ask them what configuration your rifle left their factory in, and they should be able to tell you. Either way, it sounds like a nice rifle.
I also bought a Ruger Mini-14 ranch SS since 9-11-01. Why is this gun not liked by many on this site? I shot it and it is dependable like my 10-22 and original .44 carbine. Thanks in advance, MIKE.
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Mostly because the Mini-14 isn't accurate, but the fact that Bill Ruger Sr. is a sellout slimy bag of shit who is responsible for the 10rd magazine restriction of the 1994 Crime Bill could have something to do with it as well. The fact that people go after S&W for selling out to HUD while still supporting Ruger boggles the mind. Short term memmories I guess. God Bless Texas
Link Posted: 10/23/2001 3:23:29 PM EDT
Originally Posted By mike103: Hello, I am new to this site. I shoot skeet, trap and hunt. I bought a AR-15 in 1993, shot it a couple of times and left it in the safe. In light of 9-11-01 I took it out dusted it off, bought two cases of Winchester Q3131A and started shooting it again. My question is is it a authentic Colt model or was it put together with parts. Two people told me it was built with parts. The left side of the reciever states it is a Colt Sporter #SL0026XX .223 with a black metal and plastic folding stock,it is 32 1/4" long folded and 35 1/2" extended. It has a 16" threaded barrel with a 5" flash suppressor with long slits in the side. Under the suppressor stamped on the barrel is "CMP 5.56 Nato 1/7". There is no bayonet lug and the right side of the front sight is stamped SO7 with R1 inside the O. The right side of the upper has "CM" on it. It has a 6" ribbed forearm, black nylon sling with a 9"pad on the sling. The dealer I bought it from stated it was new but did not have a box or papers. Is it a real Colt or was it pieced together? I also bought a Ruger Mini-14 ranch SS since 9-11-01. Why is this gun not liked by many on this site? I shot it and it is dependable like my 10-22 and original .44 carbine. Thanks in advance, MIKE.
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I will take the Colt off your hands for $400. [;)]
Link Posted: 10/23/2001 3:47:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/23/2001 3:42:35 PM EDT by Steel_Rat]
Geez - I can't believe the people on this board sometimes. mike103 asks a specific question, and those with no clue to the answer still have to post anyway. Mike - you have a Colt Model R6530 "Sporter Lightweight." From your description, it sounds like it's all original except for the slip-over flash hider. You didn't mention it in the description, but it should have a "slab sided" lower, and a forward assist upper with A2 sights. You can replace that "XM177" slip-over with a standard A2 flash hider and peel washer to bring it back to completely original if that's important to you. If you want, I'll trade you an original Colt A2 for your slip-over. I'm not sure how much you paid for it in '93, but your rifle is now worth between $1,200 and $1,400, depending on condition. Hope this helps! [Edited to ficks speling misteaks]
Link Posted: 10/23/2001 4:39:25 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/23/2001 5:35:14 PM EDT
Originally Posted By mike103: Steel Rat, Thanks for the infomation. I do not know what a slab side receiver or A-2 sights are but it does have a foward assist.
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By "slab sided" I mean the lower receiver has no fence around the mag well. Except for the markings, it's identical to your SP1 lower.
When you say slip on do you meen it slips over the barrel and then screws on?
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Yup - the barrel is a full 16", and the 5.5" flash hider slips over the barrel to give the appearance of an 11.5" barrel with a long flash hider. Just unscrew it.
The mistake I made was that a had a original SP-1 that I sold for $600.00 to fund this purchase.
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Sorry, but you lost about $600 on that deal. The guy who bought it got one hell of a buy. If he was a dealer or knows ARs, he deliberately cheated you. Remember that next time you're dealing with him.
Is it worth the $100.00 that Colt wants to get a letter of authenticity?
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For a collectable SAA .45 - yes. For an AR - no. You should be able to find all the info you want wandering around AR15.com and - http://[url]http://come.to/ar15[/url]
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