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Posted: 10/10/2001 4:31:31 PM EDT
this may seem like a stupid question, but with all the stuff going on, i figure it couldnt hurt to stock up on some things. but, it's very rare that i buy any canned goods. im in a small town with tons of fresh produce and farmers markets. and the grocery stores are only minutes away. i can easily shop a couple times a week or whenever i want fresh ingrediants. which canned goods make the most sense nutritionally/financially to stash? |
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Fruits to prevent scurvy.
I think most of the canned boiled vegtables have the nutrients cooked out of them. |
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Quoted: Campbell's bean with bacon. very yummy. "mmm,mmm good!" View Quote Please reference the latest gas mask topic.[:D] |
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Campbell's soups, Dinty Moore beef stew, canned veggies, and a couple of canned hams. Canned fruit juice is good and adds vitamin C. You basically want something that you can heat & eat, or eat cold if necessary. A little canned fruit is a good morale booster.
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Ranch Style Beans. Eat enough and the folks that came to your house because they weren't prepared will leave and take their chances.
Seriously, though; beans, fruits, vegetables, stews, soups, etc. Just check the labels and stock up on the ones with the most nutrients. |
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Beans, rice and anything else that you just have to add water to. Lipton dry soups and dry noodles. Also, plenty of the dry gravy packets that you add water to. Gravy can make a lot of "exotic" meats paletable.
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Quoted: Campbell's bean with bacon. very yummy. "mmm,mmm good!" View Quote TRUE! I love Bean w/Bacon. But one thing, if water is a problem then you might want to get can goods that won't need water. That way you can save water for drinking. it's just a thought. I have been looking at the heat and eat soups that won't need any water. They do cost more but may worth it's weight in gold for that reason. |
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The most important thing is:
[size=4]Buy foods that you like to eat![/size=4] If you wouldn't normally touch Dinty Moore or Spam, don't bother buying it. The smartest plan is to buy double of whatever you normally buy. Do this each time you shop, and soon you'll have a decent stock. I keep a permanent marker in the pantry and I datestamp all of my can goods. This makes for easy rotating. -Troy |
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Haggis. (My wife is from Scotland- you can get it in tins...)
Hey- don't knock it, 'til you've tried it. Haggis- the other other white meat.... Say it again- Haggis. |
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Whoop Ass. Preferably in the larger #10 can. Oh, I know it's a cheesy line but someone had to say it.... I would stock up on as much pork related products as possible. You can eat it or use it for cover.
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Who in the hell drinks beer that comes out of a CAN?
If it's not in a bottle it most likely is swill. |
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One can of Corn..
Cause you can eat it over and over and over again.. [puke] |
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Canned goods you say? Let's see...
MK23 suppressed M92SF HK MP5SD [;D] |
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beanbagger: I would buy from the store whatever you enjoy eating canned. I'd be the first to admit canned food ain't gonna taste like the fresh stuff, and would probably taste downright nasty to you. Or if you don't want to do that, invest in some freeze-dried camping food in #10 enemeled steel cans from Mountain House. Mountain House claims 30 years shelf life.[url]http://www.mountainhouse.com[/url]
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Have'nt been putting cans aside for long so my
inventory includes so far: 1)Cambell's Chunky soup:Chicken&mushroom, sirlonburger,classic chicken noodel...... soon to add more.(These are nice because they they have a relativly "safe" and simple pull top and do not need water.) 2)Cambell's Chicken noodel,vegetable and Bean& bacon. 3)La Choy beef chow mein(why beef?Because their chicken might be cat.Then again their beef might be dog...so I degress.} What is nice about this is it comes in two seperate cans that are attached.If times got really bad a meal could be made of the beef and gravy(I have done it before I love it by itself} and a seperate meal from the vegetables,both are good individually.OR...eat half and barter the other can,whatever. What ever you do make sure you will eat it. I had nearly 100cans of vienna sausages between my parents and I for Y2K.I ate a can back in Feb of 2000 and gave the rest to a local food pantry.Most every thing else,luckily, was used up. I pity the thought of me trying to eat cold vienna sausages for very long,I have a hard time eating one can without gagging. And remeber:Canned food is next to worthless if you don't have water,you plan on food to be scarce why would clean,purified water be any different? Edited because some of words did'nt make sense. I luv to spelle lik a secund gradar. |
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Quoted: Fruits to prevent scurvy. I think most of the canned boiled vegtables have the nutrients cooked out of them. View Quote Drink the juice from the veggies, also. FWIW, listening to you guys leads me to rec some good multivitamins with minerals. Lay off the silver, though! |
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Quoted: Buy foods that you like to eat! View Quote Definitely!! Quoted: multivitamins with minerals View Quote Expiration dates are generally 2-3 years on items of this nature. Do you have any idea on how long they truly should last if sealed? |
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Quoted: The most important thing is: [size=4]Buy foods that you like to eat![/size=4] If you wouldn't normally touch Dinty Moore or Spam, don't bother buying it. -Troy View Quote Your post has some merit to it but I remember eating a can of Dinty Moores beef Stew and thinking it was the best tasting item I had, at that point, put in my mouth. You can correctly guees that I was very hungry. I still keep a few cans that get rotated of that stuff, but I have yet to eat it again. That was 1985 |
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Quoted: Quoted: Fruits to prevent scurvy. I think most of the canned boiled vegtables have the nutrients cooked out of them. View Quote Drink the juice from the veggies, also. FWIW, listening to you guys leads me to rec some good multivitamins with minerals. Lay off the silver, though! View Quote Fine,the silver is gone. - - - - - - - - - - - But I can still drink mercury,can't I? [:D](don't drink toxic metals,it ain't good fore ya'lls brain powers and the like}[:D] |
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Hell, yes mercury is fine. If you ingest enough of it everything will seem just fine and you may even be happier than ever!
I'M KIDDING, I'M KIDDING, I'M JUST KIDDING!!! As for vitamins I wouldn't use much after expiration date. If in a SHTF type scenario I might use somewhat longer. Most of the canned goods mentioned actually seem fine to me and people mention reading labels to check nutritional content, etc. Very good ideas, overall. I just wanted people to think about vitamins and minerals as well. I'll specifically mention VitC, Vit D, Calcium, and Iron. Shortages of these are likely to get you in trouble sooner. Deficincy in Vit C=Scurvy, in Vit D=Rickets, Iron=anemia(more of a prob with blood loss and in women). Other deficiencies can also get you in trouble. Vit A,D,E,K are fat soluble and are found there. Vit D is produced in our skin when out in the sun and is necessary to put calcium in bone(is now added to milk). Many vits are added to the foods that require them. Thiamine to rice, niacin to grains, etc. Vit B12 is in meat. It, like cholesterol is an animal product only and is not found in plants but most of us have relatively long term reserves. There are many vits and each has its own deficiency syndrome. FWIW, vitamins act as co-enzymes; they bind to enzymes and allow them to function. Trace minerals also fulfill this function in some enzymes. Interestingly, our bodies tend to crave foods that contain substances in which we are deficient. I have yet to start chewing on the good silverware, though. Heheheh. |
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Quoted: beans and motherf**kers were my favorites View Quote I had a can of C-rats when I was in bootcamp(1976) that was dated in the late teens or twenties. Don't remember exactly anymore but they were fucking old. Tasted about the same as any other date, though. Damn things sucked. Gotta wonder if there were any vitamins left at all. Just short term calories, probably. |
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the beef and vegetable campbels chunky soups have a decent balance of vitamins according to the label
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Quoted: the beef and vegetable campbels chunky soups have a decent balance of vitamins according to the label View Quote Yeah, they're high on my list also. |
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Quoted: Expiration dates are generally 2-3 years on items of this nature. Do you have any idea on how long they truly should last if sealed? View Quote I have called up one of the major canning companies in preparation for Y2K, the reason why they have expiration dates is because the "taste" starts to deteriorate, i.e. the food does not taste as good. The said if the integrity of the can is intact, it should last for 10 years. |
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10 year old grape juice can stand in for beer. Only if in vain desperation!!!
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Who in the hell drinks beer that comes out of a CAN? If it's not in a bottle it most likely is swill. View Quote Excuse me? Guinness in cans? Hello? What are you, some kinda APW drinker? |
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When I was in the Corps we frequently had C-Rats that were from the late 1940s. I didn't smoke but the guys who did would complain about the cigaretts. Evidently they were dried out and wouldn't smoke as much as burn like a fuse. They used to call Pall Malls firecrackers.
What to stock? Spices! You can doctor up lots of things and improve the taste. When I was a grunt and had to lift my own sh!t. We were pretty careful as to what we chose to pack. Only stuff that was really useful, or mandated (not always the same) made the trip. Yet lots of guys would carry a small bottle of Tabasco sauce. Potent, a little goes a long way, a small bottle would last forever and seemed to work on most everything except canned peaches, seedless blackberry jam, poundcake, and the John Wayne candy bars. (C-Rats items) I do a lot of cooking. Here's what I would recommend; Salt Pepper (if you're cooking outside and it's windy you'll be glad you got coarse or medium grind) Ground Garlic (the finer the grind the quicker it dumps the flavor. If you'll be cooking one can of soup over a trioxane tab, then you'll want the fine stuff.) Cinnamon (makes all the difference on canned applesauce) Italian seasoning (a mixture of herbs good for boosting flavor of canned spagetti sauce) Tabasco Cellery Salt These are the basic ones. If space and weight are not an issue; Basil Ground Clove Nutmeg Bay Leaf Chopped Chives (freeze dried) Glass bottles keep best, but weigh more. |
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Some ideas:
Canned tuna Rice Beans Meat spam(not regular spam) Ramen (noodles) sardines canned fruit cocktails canned peaches canned pineapple canned fruits in general powder milk evaporated milk puddings jell-o instant chocolate (made with water, milk will make it more rich and tastier) instant rices requiring only water canned hams canned chicken breast (warehouse clubs) canned juices powder gatorade instant corn bread (sold in bags) powdered eggs oats old fashioned This is just to give you an idea, but you get the general direction. Date mark everything, and keep in mind that you need more if you can expect additional guests. Water is needed for everything, a GOOD filter is essential, but boiling and bleach will also do it if needed. I have a gas stove(lpg with my own tank) just because of the convenience in regards to boiling water and cooking when the electrity is gone. Do a search, and you will find more info everywhere. |
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Quoted: Campbell's bean with bacon. very yummy. "mmm,mmm good!" View Quote Ever since I discovered Bush's Baked Beans, you couldn't pay me to eat Campbells. Really! Try 'em. I also like Mrs. Fearnows Brunswick Stew. Mmmmm. Yummy. |
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