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Posted: 9/28/2001 9:06:50 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/28/2001 5:27:49 PM EDT by morlock13]
My self along with at lest 2 other people are seaking info on this indevidual. We are in the process of getting SCREWED by him in regargs to a "TRADE" we made. He wants your parts first to have a "smith" look it over and then stated he will send his parts the next day then nothing..... The trades were off subguns.com and I hope someone can get me a little better info on him than what i have now. His shipping address as posted on subguns.com... Gun Center PBM #385 1920 Abrams Parkway Dallas TX, 75214-6218 Cell #-withheld Email-"john Been" targettest@yahoo.com sign email as "josh j." Any help will be greatly appreciated as he has over 2000.00 worth of parts and we havent hear from him since 9/25/01 jim dunham
Link Posted: 9/28/2001 9:36:04 AM EDT
[url]http://subguns.biggerhammer.net/nonnfaad.cgi?read=127007[/url]
Link Posted: 9/28/2001 9:51:29 AM EDT
Uh-Oh!!![:O]
Link Posted: 9/28/2001 11:31:33 AM EDT
Make that at lease 1/2 a dozen people have now been burnt!!!! jim
Link Posted: 9/28/2001 12:36:59 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/28/2001 12:55:30 PM EDT
That sucks!
Link Posted: 9/28/2001 12:55:44 PM EDT
Originally Posted By cmymud: Come on you TEXAS guys time for you to do a road trip. [50] [8]
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I'll bring the rope. God Bless Texas
Link Posted: 9/28/2001 2:13:22 PM EDT
Jim - correct that address, it's ABRAMS. My cousin (Mr. Morelock - ha!) and I are taking our wives out to dinner tomorrow night and will be in the area. Doubt he'll be there on a sat night, so you tell me what you want the note to say that will be taped to his door. Tate
Link Posted: 9/28/2001 3:20:12 PM EDT
Hello. morlock13 I wish you Luck getting this person . I started trade him a upper for a Khales 10 pwr scope but i just didnt feel right about this trade so i passed . here is some of his email message . this person wanted me to ship first i asked for feedback & references and he didnt send any . TargetShooter2 Hello, I have emailed that Dealer to refund your $15.00 fee to you . Josh I want to pass on this deal , I wanted to send it next day UPS this dealer wants it shipped through the Post Office , Iam Sorry that we could not have worked a trade deal that we both could have felt comfortable with . I would like to Say that if you deal very much through the internet and you plan on buying and selling and trading that you may have to trust people alittle more in the future . for my self I have the positive feedback and references to satisfy just about anyone that I deal with . I have a offer to trade the whole rifle to a dealer for a Leupold so I think that is the best route for me to take . I would like to Thank you for your Time and your effort. in this transaction. THIS is From his Dealer now after i received this i tried to find a phone number for this dealer and i checked for a FFL under the name that he gave , i didnt find one also . Hello, Thank you for the email , Please return the $15.00 fee to Josh . this deal /trade i still do not feel comfortable with it , i wanted to send it next day UPS and not through the Post Office . Thank you for your time and effort . TargetShooter2 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gun Center" Cc: Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 3:12 PM Subject: Khales > > > I am an FFL holder & yesterday I spoke to a Mr. Josh Jaramillo in > reference to a "non-restricted" parts trade and he said that both of you > were concerened about not getting what you wanted. Well Mr. Jaramillo has > already given me a $15 fee pending > this transaction. I have here before me a Swarovski/Khales scope that > appears to be brand new in the box, but the box is opened and apperars to > have all the original contents. If you are still gong to follow through on > the deal you have arranged with him > please let me know as soon as possible if not so I can return him his $15. > You can ship your non-restricted item to the address on my FFL: > > Gun Center > PMB# 385 > 1920 Abrams Parkway > Dallas, Tx 75214-6218 > > and If you ship please ship USPS to that address only thank you. > > James canon
Link Posted: 9/28/2001 4:37:14 PM EDT
Hey Tate, check out the threads on Bowers' Board of Inquiry. Turns out that's a Mailboxes, Etc. he's ripping people off out of. Don't screw up your dinner plans.
Link Posted: 9/28/2001 5:21:43 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Tate: Jim - correct that address, it's ABRAMS. My cousin (Mr. Morelock - ha!) and I are taking our wives out to dinner tomorrow night and will be in the area. Doubt he'll be there on a sat night, so you tell me what you want the note to say that will be taped to his door. Tate
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Tate, We cant locate this SOB, but if you really want to leave a note on his mailboxs ect box use all the bad language and threats you can short of DEATH!!!!! see above post for the address and box #. On another note can you get a dallas pd detectives # for me? this would help the cause greatlly. jim
Link Posted: 9/28/2001 5:26:17 PM EDT
Originally Posted By TargetShooter2: Hello. morlock13 I wish you Luck getting this person . I started trade him a upper for a Khales 10 pwr scope but i just didnt feel right about this trade so i passed . here is some of his email message . this person wanted me to ship first i asked for feedback & references and he didnt send any . TargetShooter2 Hello, I have emailed that Dealer to refund your $15.00 fee to you . Josh I want to pass on this deal , I wanted to send it next day UPS this dealer wants it shipped through the Post Office , Iam Sorry that we could not have worked a trade deal that we both could have felt comfortable with . I would like to Say that if you deal very much through the internet and you plan on buying and selling and trading that you may have to trust people alittle more in the future . for my self I have the positive feedback and references to satisfy just about anyone that I deal with . I have a offer to trade the whole rifle to a dealer for a Leupold so I think that is the best route for me to take . I would like to Thank you for your Time and your effort. in this transaction. THIS is From his Dealer now after i received this i tried to find a phone number for this dealer and i checked for a FFL under the name that he gave , i didnt find one also . Hello, Thank you for the email , Please return the $15.00 fee to Josh . this deal /trade i still do not feel comfortable with it , i wanted to send it next day UPS and not through the Post Office . Thank you for your time and effort . TargetShooter2 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gun Center" Cc: Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 3:12 PM Subject: Khales > > > I am an FFL holder & yesterday I spoke to a Mr. Josh Jaramillo in > reference to a "non-restricted" parts trade and he said that both of you > were concerened about not getting what you wanted. Well Mr. Jaramillo has > already given me a $15 fee pending > this transaction. I have here before me a Swarovski/Khales scope that > appears to be brand new in the box, but the box is opened and apperars to > have all the original contents. If you are still gong to follow through on > the deal you have arranged with him > please let me know as soon as possible if not so I can return him his $15. > You can ship your non-restricted item to the address on my FFL: > > Gun Center > PMB# 385 > 1920 Abrams Parkway > Dallas, Tx 75214-6218 > > and If you ship please ship USPS to that address only thank you. > > James canon
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James, This is yet another of his scams, there is no FFL on his end only him. There are about 7 diffrent names/email he goes by but allways the same address. He has been collectiong FFL for trans. that he never compleated, and the ATF is now looking in to it because of this. If i had my way(still might) id be down there looking him up my self. (still can fly space-a for free) jim
Link Posted: 9/28/2001 6:54:21 PM EDT
A little heads up for everyone that missed it. PMB = postal mail box. That is why he wanted the shipment via the US post office. If you tried to ship something through UPS or FedEx to the PMB, they would tell you that they don't ship to post office boxes. Then you might start to wonder how an FFL got a license with a post office box as his address. Kind of hard to run a gun business out of a post office box! Hopefully they will catch this guy at the Mail Boxes Ect.
Link Posted: 9/28/2001 7:49:55 PM EDT
Mailboxes, Etc. uses PMB designations for their boxes. I use one for all my gun dealings--I don't trust the idiots at the front desk at my apartment to take care of a package. I get UPS, FED Ex, Etc. delivered all the time there. However, you may want to file charges with the local PD where the delivery was made. Mailboxes does require some kind of ID before you open your box, which may help track the idiots down. AFARR
Link Posted: 9/28/2001 8:13:33 PM EDT
I stand corrected. Thanks, AFARR
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