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Posted: 9/16/2001 12:29:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/16/2001 12:31:05 PM EDT by Full_Spectrum]
Some good shots of Evil Assault Weapons! Taken from an IDF Operation Aug 12th. [img]http://www.idf.il/idf_in_pictures/images/2001/august/dotz%2011.08.01-01.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.idf.il/idf_in_pictures/images/2001/august/dotz%2011.08.01-02.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.idf.il/idf_in_pictures/images/2001/august/dotz%2011.08.01-03.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.idf.il/idf_in_pictures/images/2001/august/dotz%2011.08.01-04.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.idf.il/idf_in_pictures/images/2001/august/dotz%2011.08.01-05.jpg[/img]
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Link Posted: 9/16/2001 12:37:51 PM EDT
I love the tactical shower cap on the soldier in the 3rd and 4th photo. [;)]
Link Posted: 9/16/2001 12:42:09 PM EDT
Damn, there are even using FRS "Handhelds". Good, cheap and effective communications.
Link Posted: 9/16/2001 12:44:03 PM EDT
One question: What's in the tubes on the back of the guy in the second photo? _FS
Link Posted: 9/16/2001 1:02:49 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Full_Spectrum: One question: What's in the tubes on the back of the guy in the second photo? _FS
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Looks about the size of "LAWS" Launchers.
Link Posted: 9/16/2001 2:37:34 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Full_Spectrum: One question: What's in the tubes on the back of the guy in the second photo? _FS
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M72 [url]http://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/m72.htm[/url] anti armor Bang Bang. Zaz
Link Posted: 9/16/2001 2:54:46 PM EDT
Yes, just another day in Israel... [img]http://israelimages.com/medium/12575.jpg[/img] [img]http://israelimages.com/medium/12390.jpg[/img] Even the civilians carry AR's, NO one will take a Galil unless its a choice between it or nothing. Is this what the US is gonna look like in a few years? (Yamakas excepted[:)])
Link Posted: 9/16/2001 4:31:28 PM EDT
what is hanging out of the pistol grip in the first photo? a plastic handcuff??
Link Posted: 9/16/2001 4:52:58 PM EDT
Notice the ejection port dust covers are all closed. Lots of sand blowing around over there.
Link Posted: 9/16/2001 5:29:31 PM EDT
I think thats a boresnaake in the pistol grip
Link Posted: 9/16/2001 5:45:00 PM EDT
Yeah, its one of those plasticuff things (similar to the type that you tie wires together with) that are in the pistol grip. Israeli soldiers are known to do that...
Link Posted: 9/16/2001 5:47:38 PM EDT
Originally Posted By alphazulu: Yeah, its one of those plasticuff things (similar to the type that you tie wires together with) that are in the pistol grip. Israeli soldiers are known to do that...
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T & B or Panduit "Ty-Wraps".
Link Posted: 9/16/2001 5:52:54 PM EDT
Does pic 6 show a bulldozer cleaning up after the search? [;)]
Link Posted: 9/16/2001 6:15:15 PM EDT
I like those pre-ban, assault-style Motorola hand held radios.
Link Posted: 9/16/2001 6:36:19 PM EDT
What are you bashing the Galil for? Most likely the reason there are so many civilians w/ AR's is because they probably outnumber Galil rifles. Imagine the sheer numbers of M16's/AR's that have been imported into Israel. I would take a Galil any day.
Link Posted: 9/16/2001 6:39:10 PM EDT
Originally Posted By ArmdLbrl: Yes, just another day in Israel... [img]http://israelimages.com/medium/12575.jpg[/img] [img]http://israelimages.com/medium/12390.jpg[/img] Is this what the US is gonna look like in a few years?
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Pray to God that this never happens to the US. A much as I believe in the right to carry, this is not what I have in mind.
Link Posted: 9/16/2001 6:41:09 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Renamed:Does pic 6 show a bulldozer cleaning up after the search? [;)]
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LOL that's funny Zaz
Link Posted: 9/17/2001 7:29:53 AM EDT
Originally Posted By lordtrader:
Originally Posted By ArmdLbrl: Yes, just another day in Israel... Is this what the US is gonna look like in a few years?
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Pray to God that this never happens to the US. A much as I believe in the right to carry, this is not what I have in mind.
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No matter how many Americans die, I don't think we'll EVER see parents protecting their children with ARs on the playground. The libs will never let go of their "gun free school" zones.
Link Posted: 9/17/2001 7:33:55 AM EDT
No matter how many Americans die, I don't think we'll EVER see parents protecting their children with ARs on the playground. The libs will never let go of their "gun free school" zones.
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I don't think the German Jews would have thought it either 55yrs ago. A catalyst of enough magnitude can change just about anything. Zaz
Link Posted: 9/17/2001 7:58:50 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Huero:
Originally Posted By lordtrader:
Originally Posted By ArmdLbrl: Yes, just another day in Israel... Is this what the US is gonna look like in a few years?
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Pray to God that this never happens to the US. A much as I believe in the right to carry, this is not what I have in mind.
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No matter how many Americans die, I don't think we'll EVER see parents protecting their children with ARs on the playground. The libs will never let go of their "gun free school" zones.
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schools and playgrounds...two VERY different things. and i think we will if America becomes a cesspool of terrorist activities against us like Israel is. you know darn good and well all of us will be protecting ourselves however we must. i think recent events have made it very possible for the tide to turn back in our favor. most likely not initially, but eventually. when we are the only ones who can protect ourselves. besides, how many of you had anti or fence-sitting friends give you a call in the past week because they were afraid and wanted to borrow something? it's happened more than once, and if things get worse (which they probably will before they get better) it will happen again.
Link Posted: 9/17/2001 8:36:07 PM EDT
Originally Posted By ARlady:
Originally Posted By Huero:
Originally Posted By lordtrader:
Originally Posted By ArmdLbrl: Yes, just another day in Israel... Is this what the US is gonna look like in a few years?
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Pray to God that this never happens to the US. A much as I believe in the right to carry, this is not what I have in mind.
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No matter how many Americans die, I don't think we'll EVER see parents protecting their children with ARs on the playground. The libs will never let go of their "gun free school" zones.
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schools and playgrounds...two VERY different things. and i think we will if America becomes a cesspool of terrorist activities against us like Israel is. you know darn good and well all of us will be protecting ourselves however we must. i think recent events have made it very possible for the tide to turn back in our favor. most likely not initially, but eventually. when we are the only ones who can protect ourselves. besides, how many of you had anti or fence-sitting friends give you a call in the past week because they were afraid and wanted to borrow something? it's happened more than once, and if things get worse (which they probably will before they get better) it will happen again.
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yes in fact my X-wife called me wanting a rifle!!!!!!!
Link Posted: 9/18/2001 2:16:24 PM EDT
WOW!!! I wish our soccer-moms carried like this!!! [img]http://israelimages.com/medium/12575.jpg[/img] BISHOP
Link Posted: 9/18/2001 3:10:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/18/2001 3:14:04 PM EDT by DonS]
Originally Posted By 7_62___for_me: What are you bashing the Galil for? Most likely the reason there are so many civilians w/ AR's is because they probably outnumber Galil rifles. Imagine the sheer numbers of M16's/AR's that have been imported into Israel. I would take a Galil any day.
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They prefer the CAR-15 because of it's light weight and accuracy. The Galil is pretty much restricted to units that don't have to carry the weapon. Tankers, and the like. Most likely those too will transistion to the CAR-15, or the M-4. [url]http://www.isayeret.com/weapons/assault.htm[/url] Edit: I should add, the CAR-15/M-4 seems to be a status symbol over there. The dudes with the AR-15/M-16s are pretty much "non-combatant" nerds.
Link Posted: 9/18/2001 3:19:57 PM EDT
they all have A1 sights, and ribbed round handguards? is that normal?
Link Posted: 9/18/2001 4:01:59 PM EDT
Originally Posted By erickm: they all have A1 sights, and ribbed round handguards? is that normal?
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The CAR-15 had A1 sights and a round, ribbed handguard. Notice their weapons appear to have the M-4 configuration barrel. They have a bunch of old CAR-15s and chopped M-16A1s, some upgraded to "M-4" status. And some real M-4s. They really have a fetish for short M-16 varients. Take a look at the link I posted for more info.
Link Posted: 9/18/2001 4:44:51 PM EDT
Originally Posted By erickm: they all have A1 sights, and ribbed round handguards? is that normal?
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Normal enough for a Colt M-16A1.
Link Posted: 9/18/2001 4:54:45 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Full_Spectrum: Some good shots of Evil Assault Weapons! Taken from an IDF Operation Aug 12th. [img]http://www.idf.il/idf_in_pictures/images/2001/august/dotz%2011.08.01-05.jpg[/img]
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This collection makes Imbrogl|o's weapons catche seem impressive.
Link Posted: 9/18/2001 11:42:23 PM EDT
I'll take a Tavor and a Micro Galil, thanks.
Link Posted: 9/19/2001 4:33:38 AM EDT
Link Posted: 9/19/2001 4:50:24 AM EDT
Think they use the LAWS for anti-sniper or anti-vehicle role? I guess they are not facing any great armored vehicles on a day to day so the LAWS should work. Anyone know? We don’t make them anymore and have not for years. I think we still have a huge stockpile though.
Link Posted: 9/19/2001 9:45:08 AM EDT
Originally Posted By TimJ:
Originally Posted By erickm: they all have A1 sights, and ribbed round handguards? is that normal?
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All replacement handguards are A2 style, they don't manufacture the triangular ones any longer. We had no right hand triangulars in 1988 IIRC> Tim
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I think it's been much longer since we had triangulars for shorties.
Link Posted: 9/19/2001 10:12:46 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Velveeta: Think they use the LAWS for anti-sniper or anti-vehicle role? I guess they are not facing any great armored vehicles on a day to day so the LAWS should work. Anyone know? We don’t make them anymore and have not for years. I think we still have a huge stockpile though.
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According to that website, the IDF gets its LAWS from a company here in the US. And we do have a very large stockpile of them. Canada gets theirs from Nammo/Rauffos in Norway. No good against modern MBT's but still good against everything else. The IDF primairaly uses them as pocket artillery against buildings. Still work very well at that and you can carry 3 of them for the same weight as 1 AT-4. Also there are a lot of RPG-18's floating around, the largest difference between them and a M72 is the writing on the tube is in cyrillic.
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