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Posted: 9/12/2001 6:09:00 PM EDT
Cut this ignorant bullshit out already.
I am as pissed off if not more than everyone here. I am on stand by with the RedCross to go HELP in NYC with the cleanup and rescue. I hate the bastards responsible for this as much as the next guy. I WANT TO SEE DEATH RAIN DOWN ON THOSE WHO HARBOR THESE PEOPLE, OR THOSE WHO HAVE CELEBRATED IN THE STREETS!!! FUCK THEM ALL!!! What I can't stand is people who are categorizing these people by their ARAB background or by their MUSLIM religion. Not all of these people are EVIL. Hate the people who have acted against us... tighten security everywhere and double check these people for security sake, but do not HATE them for many of these people are YOUR BROTHERS. They are Americans as much as any of us. Keep in your mind the countless other people in the world who have celebrated these events in our country and others. We have whites, blacks, Hispanics, etc IN OUR OWN COUNTRY who are celebrating this action saying WE deserved it. THESE PEOPLE ARE JUST AS GUILTY AND SHOULD ALSO BE KILLED!!! There is a LOT of hate and anger on these boards. It's expected, it's normal, it's ok. Just keep the bullshit out of the posts and we'll all be ok. Thanks for your cooperation. -- GB |
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does that mean you deleted my post with the link to the racial slur database? you have to admit the palm pilot version was pretty slick... |
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Since nobody feels like responding I will say one final thing...
If this crap continues, I will lock the entire forums until cooler heads can prevail. I will also open a MEMBER ONLY forum so that these guys, along with the staff can continue to post their hate and anger and discuss these events. This is a horrible and tragic time, worse than you can imagine. (I have been privy to "undisclosed" information from this event.) I feel all of your pain and anger. I have lost friends in this mess and I want blood for these actions. I simply ask you keep calm and not sink to their level. Even our military should NOT sink to their level. We should make sure to kill them with at least 12 bullets non-center mass and simply LAUGH as they bleed to death and not cheer. Let those responsible and any who have harbored or helped them feel our wrath. Let those who have cheered this horrible action to drown in pools of blood. Let the guilty pay... -- GB |
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GB
Are they Arabs? Are they Muslim??????? Why not call a strike a strike, a ball a ball? What are you afraid of???????? You are smelling of a goat! No Luck for you. |
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[size=6][red]PRAISE THE LORD AND PASS THE AMMUNITION[/SIZE=6][/RED]
NUFF SAID! |
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Yes they are Arabs and yes they are Muslims... all of them??? I don't know.
I'm not saying dont say don't call them Muslims or Arabs, I'm saying dont use racist or deragatory terms. I would think people here would know better than to judge groups of people. Perhaps AMERICANS are all evil??? Fucking moronic, you're all acting like they want you too. There are AMERICANS of Arab decent living amongst us who are innocent and perhaps more american than many of us. To group them in with this horror is a disgrace to everyone here. |
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Thanks from saving all of us ORDINARY members from the pain you have suffered. We tend forget how special you are.
NLFY |
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I'm assuming none of you have ever met a white Muslim, but I assure you they exist. There are also other people you might be referring to as "ragheads" that are probably Hindus or Sikh Hindus and not Muslims. Furthermore, most Muslims I know say Bin Laden is nothing more than a bloodthirsty terror monger who does not follow his muslim beliefs as much as he claims.
Hell, according to the FBI two of the suspected hijackers [b]GOT DRUNK[/b] in a bar recently, which is strictly forbidden by Islam. One of them even commented that he worked for american airlines and he could pay the bill when they fought over it. This was all via Michael Medved on his radio show today. To hell with anyone who wants to celebrate this tragedy. But be sure you focus your anger on those who truly deserve it. The Hindus that run convenience stores by my house have fared pretty well, but a couple of them have had some idiots come in berating them and they don't follow Islam or advocate terrorism. God Bless Texas |
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Jewbroni you trying to push me? Please edit those posts.
223Bee what exactly do you want from me? I'm right here so email me if you wish or say it outright. Did I say I was BETTER than anyone? I am asking you and everyone else to keep a level head. -- GB |
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Very Good GoatBoy. Even if they don't relize it. It needed to be said.
Americans should stick together! But, some will never learn. |
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Thanks J.B.
Please stay with me here. WTF Gang. Do you all have issues with Jews here? Is one or 3 ok? 4 is bad? BTW, I am the blue eyed devil. Come on Goat Boy.. Can any of us pick a side w/o being banned... please your holiness. Chris |
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Oh, grow up Goatboy!
Like Germans and Japanese weren't demonized in WW2. How are we supposed to refer to the evil doers and their supporters? Hijacking Camel Jockeys? How about Muslim scum? Let's know our enemy and call it what it is: ISLAM! |
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Quoted: Oh, grow up Goatboy! Like Germans and Japanese weren't demonized in WW2. How are we supposed to refer to the evil doers and their supporters? Hijacking Camel Jockeys? How about Muslim scum? Let's know our enemy and call it what it is: ISLAM! View Quote Indeed. The entire problem is Islam. I'm sure there's not a redeeming quality to be found in any Muslim. [;D] Just be sure to remember that aproximately 30% of the world's population are Muslims. But since they're all evil we might as well just be done with it and kill em all right? Never mind if some of them aren't even Muslims. I'm sure no one will miss a few Hindus or Sikhs. Now place yourself in Chuck Shumer's shoes and replace every instance of a slur with gun owners and "ISLAM" with guns. And you've become just as bad as any gun grabber who can't understand the difference between a group of people and evil people within that group. You've just become a Liberal. How does it feel? Don't let The Taliban fool you. They only put up with Bin Laden because he pumps money into their country, which has nothing to do with their religion. They say it's because of his fighting for Afghanistan during the 1980's, but if he was broke he'd be ass out. Also remember that there's a group of Muslim Afghanis right now who are trying to get back at Bin Laden for an attempted assasination of their leader that happened just recently, as well as The Taliban. I'll be sure to say an extra prayer for the ignorant tonight. You guys need it. Goat Boy, I'm with you. God Bless Texas |
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How about:
terrorists killers murders cowards fanatics assassins slaughter ...just use your minds. |
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You guys have a lot of balls or stupidity to post racist terms in this topic.
Go ahead and blame ISLAM, you're only showing your rage has clouded your mind. Just don't post this racism garbage. I'm not going to say this again. |
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Goatboy - you have mail, I suggest reading it. No more [i]racial comments[/i] about the "individuals who ride camels", although I'm still a bit confused. Wasn't pulling a "Captain Obvious", just trying to help with the racist terms and help YOU do YOUR job. |
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What terms are you talking about?
Redneck Hillbilly Trailer trash I think you idiots need to get a little thicker skin. I have put up with racist crap all my life and it doesn't bother me. OH, I forgot, it is ok to make fun of the south [pissed] |
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GBT:
Perfect analogy. I've stayed out of this, but this blanket hatred has got to stop. |
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That's the problem with you PC idiots - you can't hurt anyones feeling.
If there weren't so many of you, those bastards wouldn't have been training at a college in Florida! They wouldn't have been driving taxis in Boston! You insist on letting all these barbarians through the gates. Look what it got you! |
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I'm not going to sit here idle and ignore your disrespecting the many who died and gave their lives to rescue others.
They GAVE THEIR FUCKING LIVES and you sit here and threaten innocent people. THAT is the problem with racism, THAT is the problem with categorizing people, THAT is what has to stop. You guys are making me sick. FOCUS YOUR HATE TO THE TERRORISTS WHO DID THIS SHIT!!! |
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You guys are priceless. You have no idea what you are doing or even talking about. You are about 2 seconds from getting this board shut down. If you want to spread hate do it somewhere else. This is our home. DO NOT FUCK WITH IT!!!
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GoatBoy, dead on. These idiots need to be kicked off here. Racists comments, or comments slamming an entire group of people based on their race, religion, etc is just as bad as teh liberals against us gun owners.
I say banned anybody you makes such comments permanently. Or shut the forums down. I'll behind you 100% no matter what. |
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2223Bee,
Were you shunned from the cool lunch table in high school or something? GB's not asking much, stop trying to act like a bad-ass (reference to "step off")and try and stow the rhetoric; all while you sit in front of a key board typing cyber bravado over the frickin internet. You cyber bad-ass you. |
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Quoted: FOCUS YOUR HATE TO THE TERRORISTS WHO DID THIS SHIT!!! View Quote Goatboy, If it turns out that this was done by muslim extremists, would'nt we be "focusing" our hate in the right direction ?? Not all muslims are responsible for this but SOME are. So I think when a enraged patriot refers to the possible (likely) scumbags who did this in a "racial" manner, I feel it might just be warranted. Bottom line is people are PISSED !! so how about cutting them some slack. After all, we are all "directing" our anger at the bastards who did this. |
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Quoted: Quoted: FOCUS YOUR HATE TO THE TERRORISTS WHO DID THIS SHIT!!! View Quote Goatboy, If it turns out that this was done by muslim extremists, would'nt we be "focusing" our hate in the right direction ?? Not all muslims are responsible for this but SOME are. So I think when a enraged patriot refers to the possible (likely) scumbags who did this in a "racial" manner, I feel it might just be warranted. Bottom line is people are PISSED !! so how about cutting them some slack. After all, we are all "directing" our anger at the bastards who did this. View Quote No, racial terms are not allowed. So call them "Muslim extremists" at the very most, if that's who YOU think did it. Not offensive, Not-a-problem. |
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I know their religions and so forth, but "Christians" have slaughtered thousands... so we cry out kill CHRISTIANS when a few bad apples kill innocent people??? Fuck no...
We say KILL THE TERRORISTS... It's not always the meaning by the person stating the phrase, but also the meaning from those who interpret it. A Muslim brother already has enough to fear with the building hate, don't let them fear us. If they're guilty they will pay, if they're innocent then embrace them. -- GB |
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Quoted: I know their religions and so forth, but "Christians" have slaughtered thousands... so we cry out kill CHRISTIANS when a few bad apples kill innocent people??? Fuck no... We say KILL THE TERRORISTS... It's not always the meaning by the person stating the phrase, but also the meaning from those who interpret it. A Muslim brother already has enough to fear with the building hate, don't let them fear us. If they're guilty they will pay, if they're innocent then embrace them. -- GB View Quote Something we can agree on, finally. [:)] |
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BTT
I wont be locking the forums, but I have suspended account registration to keep the trouble makers out. If you account gets locked, don't expect to get back in for a few days. I expect people to act rationally and calmly... I respect everyone's right to opinions, so simplay say, FUCK THE TERRORISTS, BURN THEM ALL DOWN and not something racist. Thanks |
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"The protection of our rights is tested, however, not when what we do or say is popular but when it is unpopular. Stated most starkly, a free society is tested by the way it protects the rights of its least popular members."
ROGER PILON I fear that anyone suspected or stereotyped as being Muslim/Islamic will be percieved as a terrorist. I have already heard it from people I thought were my friends...I guess I know better now. Anyone who is percieved as a Muslim will be extremely unpopular in this country for a very long time. The mosque in Irving, TX was shot at yesterday evening. Seven bullet holes but no one was hurt...saw it on the news this evening. I go to work & I come straight home...with my Glock close by at all times. It will be interesting to see how many "Rodney King" syndromes occur against the innocent citizens of this country. Thanks for at least attempting to control the situation but you will not be able to do so. Above all else, we should be protecting the US Constitution: including the First Amendment...so speak away. Its a free country...for some. |
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I agree about speaking your mind, just asking for a small bit of restraint on everyone's behalf... I can't understand why it's such a horrible thing.
Act responsibly or leave. It's our job to defend each other and to defend liberty. I am merely doing what's right. G'night, -- GB |
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I agree, we (gunowners) need to act in a way to disprove the anti's stereotypes
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You are right GB, maybe you can stop any new screen names as I have noticed several new people posting racist and also anti semetic remarks.
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*applauds GB*
(and not even trying to get free AR15.com stuff either!) Make decisions on what a person does not based upon what some people in a given group say or do. After all, that's how the terrorists think of us...they think all us capitalist-Westerners are alike, so they kill regardless of whether we had anything to do with them or not. Find the ones that have something to do with it and remove them from life. (note the period) [b]Rocket Science 101[/b] * There are some terrorists that claim to follow Islam * There are some terrorists that are Arab * All Arabs are not terrorists * All people that follow Islam are not terrorists From what I gather from Islam is that killing innocent people in terrorist attacks is not condoned at all. But there are some who claim to follow Islam who kill innocents, but actually seem to just use Islam as a front for their own agenda and find others to follow them. We complain about Senator Feinstein, Senator Schumer, Sarah Brady, Rosie O'Donnell and other anti-gunners branding all gun owners as criminals. We know that's not true. While some gun owners commit crimes, its a small fraction. Don't make that same mistake. Here's an idea GB...for those that make such generalizations, change their graphic/logo to a picture of Rosie, Brady and/or Schumer! - Robbie |
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GB, I'm not trying to be disrespectful nor do I agree with the racial slurs on the forum. But AR15.com has allot to do with the second amendment right? Well what about the first amendment?
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Well what about the first amendment? View Quote Good question (I know, I'm not GB, but it's late and I can't sleep) "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances." GoatBoy is not Congress and this is considered a privately owned "place." Just as if somebody were to come into your home or business and say things that you didn't like (doesn't really matter what or if there's any logic behind the statements, all that matters is that you don't like it), then you can ask them to leave. By having them leave, you're not considered to be restricting their rights as they can still say what they want, just not in your home. |
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Robbie put it well, by signing on this site. You agreed to a certain set of rules, even with current events driving emotions and anger trough the ceiling.
Kuiper |
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I think what Goat boy is saying is dont use terms like "Sand-nigger" Or "Dune-coon" when there are perfectly acceptable alternatives like "Camel-Jockey" & "Rag-Head".
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Goat Boy
You picked the wrong time to be PC. CBS-yes that CBS- did a poll tonight. 66% of Americans +-3% call for retaliation even if it means innocent civilians are killed. I heard the Chairman of the House Armed Forces comittee on a interview with KTAR radio here in Phoenix this afternoon openly discuss targeting the families of suicide bombers for retaliation. And your worried about name calling? |
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To: Goatboy ,Kuiper, and Paul
You're doing just fine, as usual. You guys are real pros. I too feel a rage and a need for retaliation. _____________________________________________ To these hypocrites hiding behind the "...1st amendment.." or "...you're too sensitive..." how about putting your actions where your mouth is. How about donating your tax refund, or selling an AR and donating the money to help our brothers in New York? How about donating your time like Goat Boy? P.S. I too am not politcal, or a pro, |
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"Nothing like a little adversity and that racism shit gonna come out..."
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Goatboy,
I will say that you are doing a great job in a difficult time. I have seen some things written on this board that causes me to shiver. It seems that a lot of the individuals who are posting the racist (perhaps a better term would be all-encompassing) remarks are falling into the same trap as how the terrorists that to such actions to our country are in. Simply stated: Guilt by association. We see a lot of individuals post that the religon Islam is the issue, thus any islamic would be considered a threat. Compare that to how the terrorist thinks. He has a problem with the government policies of the US, so anyone who is a citizen of the US is a fair target, even though the majority of citizens really have no say (excepting their single vote) on how policy is created, or implemented. In my most humble opinion, those individuals who tend to use such blanket terms, without regard to what the religon of Islam consists of, may be not too different from the terrorists who have attacked the US recently. I agree... I feel that the best way to describe our foes in this instance is the individuals who planned and implemented this horrible act, and the country(ies) who either harbored them, or provided them assistance. |
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Goatboy, you are right on target. This country is made up of many groups who support and believe the same as we do. To single out people because of their "past" nationality or their religion because of what some fanatics do is absurd and lowers us to the level of terrorists. Punish the evil, but protect the innocent. Yes, I do want to kick some ass, but let's make sure it is the right ass we are kicking. To vent your anger on someone because of their religion or the way they look is wrong and we must stand taller than this. These fanatics have corrupted the teachings of Islam (yes, I am a Christian) just as Europeans and others have committed atrocities in the past in the name of God, so do these fanatics. The true followers of the tenets of Islam are not violent...it's the fanatics who take things out of context that have created the illusion that Muslims are out to kill all Christians. Keep cool heads guys, but be ready when the right target is in sight. |
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Well said GoatBoay.
Some of these morons just don't get it. Their only knowledge of Islam is what they have seen on television or in the movies. They have no idea that there is no terrorist who is a Muslim. These terrorists are akin to the violent white supremesist "Christians". Any true follower of these religions knows that they are full of shit. |
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to those of you who, in due time, get to go and finish this unpleasant business:
the rest of us who stay behind would be with you if we could. good hunting. come back safe, ok? |
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Hang in there, Goatboy- you are doing the right thing. I know a lot of people from the Middle East, Arabs, Jews, Egyptians, Turks, etc.- all are horrified by what has happened.
You want to do something good? If there's an Arab business in your area, go buy something from them today, even if it's a stick of gum. tell the people there to hang in there. Money talks, and kind words sure do help, too. Chances are, you'll find somebody there who appreciates America a hell of a lot more than most native-born Americans do. We've been fed with a silver spoon, compared to these poor souls, many of whom had to leave a civil war or dictatorship, leaving everything behind to start over in the USA. BTW all you trolls out there- are you on HCI's payroll or something? When all this blows over, I expect your comments will be transcribed and read before the cameras and mikes at Congressional hearings about WHY civilians should not have guns, ESPECIALLY military-style, "baby-killing" assault rifles. Future quote on the TV news:" 'www.AR15.com'- a hotbed of racist redneck subversive gun nuts," or some such- "pictures and story at eleven." What did Karl Marx say about capitalists selling the very rope that would be used to hang themselves? You guys are selling your- and OUR- very own nooses. Thanks for f*^&ing it up for all of us. Grow up. |
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I've been standing off in the forums since Tuesday night for the simple fact although I feel anger,sorrow and disbelief..it doesn't compare to the emotions felt by you people. I didn't want it to seem like I didn't care because I do. All Canadians do. But I won't stand by and watch our "home" be turned into a cess pool of racist comments and threats against innocent "non-Americans". We are better then that. Please don't let your feelings of anger,frustration and revenge get the better of you and destroy what we have here.
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GB,
Hang tough dude and don't take any shit from anyone.[beer] What really makes me snicker is that people are calling you "PC". If having the ability to engage in intelligent conversation without the use of rude, base, and ignorant ethnic slurs makes me PC, well then I guess I'm "PC". They obviously aren't aware of what the term PC means. The use, or more correctly the misuse of the term, only serves to further point out that particular individual's level of education and upbringing. I wouldn’t know you from Adam if I saw you on the street or at the range – but I’m willing to bet my new AR-15.COM LEGP that you ain’t “PC”. They don't know why, but they know the term “PC” is somehow bad - to them it's just another name they throw around to try and hurt people with, and that's kind of funny in a cute, helpless child-like way. PS: For the record, if proof is found that the Taliban or the Afghanistan government funded or otherwise harbored the groups responsible for this attack, I’d like to see them wiped off the face of the earth and their country turned into a glass parking lot - but only in an appropriate PC manner. |
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