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Posted: 9/8/2001 11:16:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/8/2001 11:56:33 PM EDT by Ulysse_Nardin_1846]
[url]http://latimes.com/news/local/la-090901beck.story[/url] [b]For Gunman, Life Spent as Misfit Ends in Violence[/b] By KRISTINA GOEBBELS,RICHARD GOEBBELS and TERRY GOEBBELS, Times Propaganda Writers Every month or so, the women of Brooks Circle gathered for a girls' night out. Usually, there was a birthday to celebrate; sometimes not. Mainly, they met just to get out of the house and gab. Whether there was a specific reason or not, there was always plenty to talk about. This summer, on the Saturday night after Independence Day, eight or nine of the ladies of Brooks Circle met at BJ's Restaurant and Brewhouse in Valencia. A couple of the women had a very specific reason for meeting. They were concerned about the odd behavior of one of their neighbors, Jim Beck. Even if Beck acted normally, which is to say, more like them, he would have been an unusual presence in the neighborhood just by the fact that he was single. Almost everybody else was married and many couples had young children. After dinner, some of the women went off to a movie; the others talked about Beck. They wondered why he was always home. He said he was a U.S. marshal, but had anyone ever seen him go to work? Had anyone seen him in a uniform? One woman mentioned what seemed his unusual interest in children. More...
Link Posted: 9/8/2001 11:25:29 PM EDT
The Newmans never said anything to Beck. Nor did he speak to them about the surveillance. What could he have said? That he had illegally built a small arsenal at the house? That he had been buying thousands of dollars worth of high-powered ammunition for months? That if they came for him, they better be prepared for a fight because he wasn't going anywhere?
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Ever heard the propaganda ministers mention low powered ammo?
Link Posted: 9/8/2001 11:30:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/8/2001 11:55:45 PM EDT by Ulysse_Nardin_1846]
Looks like case closed to me. [img]http://www.latimes.com/media/thumbnails/photo/2001-09/577986.jpg[/img] I shall be avenged! [img]http://www.latimes.com/media/thumbnails/photo/2001-09/578302.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 9/8/2001 11:46:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/8/2001 11:56:17 PM EDT by geek4guns]
Is it just me or does that photo just look creepy? hmm, the writer had a hidden agenda? Compare their beck photo on the right with the deputy on the right. [img]http://www.latimes.com/media/thumbnails/photo/2001-09/577986.jpg[/img][img]http://www.latimes.com/media/thumbnails/photo/2001-09/578302.jpg[/img] Me and images don't get along
Link Posted: 9/8/2001 11:56:43 PM EDT
What the hell is this? I ain't got none womenz and never go anywhere either. Does that mean I am automatically a suspect?
Link Posted: 9/8/2001 11:58:01 PM EDT
Originally Posted By geek4guns: Is it just me or does that photo just look creepy? hmm, the writer had a hidden agenda? Compare their beck photo on the right with the deputy on the right. [img]http://www.latimes.com/media/thumbnails/photo/2001-09/577986.jpg[/img][img]http://www.latimes.com/media/thumbnails/photo/2001-09/578302.jpg[/img] Me and images don't get along
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Look at their names! [b]By KRISTINA GOEBBELS,RICHARD GOEBBELS and TERRY GOEBBELS, Times Propaganda Writers[/b]
Link Posted: 9/8/2001 11:59:24 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Imbroglio: What the hell is this? I ain't got none womenz and never go anywhere either. Does that mean I am automatically a suspect?
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Yes, you have a stockpile of:[img]http://www.ar15.com/images/postPics/imbroglio.gif[/img] Consider yourself on the list. - No womenz - No womenz - No womenz - No womenz
Link Posted: 9/9/2001 12:03:00 AM EDT
My neighbor doesn't seem to work and is always around the house. What is the FBI's number? Wait, the guy next door keeps telling me he's retired, maybe he is just impersonating a retired person. Should I call the AARP. Yeah, and what about you "Imbroglio", if that is your real name? Do I have to report you for impersonating a nerd at home all the time. Maybe the Tolkein fan club can call in the ATF for back up.
Link Posted: 9/9/2001 12:11:20 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Ratters: My neighbor doesn't seem to work and is always around the house. What is the FBI's number? Wait, the guy next door keeps telling me he's retired, maybe he is just impersonating a retired person. Should I call the AARP. Yeah, and what about you "Imbroglio", if that is your real name? Do I have to report you for impersonating a nerd at home all the time. Maybe the Tolkein fan club can call in the ATF for back up.
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Only call if you see assault weapons leaning up against the couch he's purported to have.
Link Posted: 9/9/2001 12:46:28 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Imbroglio: What the hell is this? I ain't got none womenz and never go anywhere either. Does that mean I am automatically a suspect?
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Not only that, you have a .38 and a 10/22. Stockpile!! [red][size=4] P.R.K.[/red][/size=4]
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Link Posted: 9/9/2001 3:42:03 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Ulysse_Nardin_1846: [b]By KRISTINA GOEBBELS,RICHARD GOEBBELS and TERRY GOEBBELS, Times Propaganda Writers[/b]
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That's scary as hell. Must be a "family" thing - propaganda....
Link Posted: 9/9/2001 4:03:46 AM EDT
Sounds like those womenz were trying to paint him as a child molester. I mean, a grown man having teddy bears and cartoons in the house must be a perv, right?
Link Posted: 9/9/2001 7:12:29 AM EDT
of course he's a child molester. He was shot and/or burned out by thee feds. That makes him a child molester by definition.
Link Posted: 9/9/2001 7:46:32 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Imbroglio: What the hell is this? I ain't got none womenz and never go anywhere either. Does that mean I am automatically a suspect?
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Oh Yeah,,,,, [;)] Jay Arizona "Life is hard: It's harder if you're stupid"
Link Posted: 9/9/2001 7:53:40 AM EDT
Geeze, the guy was fucked up. His mommy bought him a $400,000 house? He ripped off people he knew. He lied about who he was. The guy was as fucked up as a football bat. Did he deserve to die for that or any of the other "crimes" he committed? No. Did he kill the deputy? I can't tell you that. I wasen't there. The reporting of the LA Times (Pravda West) is typical. Did any of you read the entire article? Look at this: The Newmans later noticed that Beck was under surveillance. "The jerks parked their vans with periscopes in front of my house," Lynda Newman said. "It was so obvious they were watching him. He must have known." I can't figure why some of you geys who are defending this earth sack. If he had stolen a firearm from you, money from you, posed as a law enforecment agent to you, you would be demanding a pound of flesh and a pint of blood from this guy. Just because the Burn And Torch Flame guys tried to arrest him still dosen't make him anything other than a earth sack. Just because the Burn And Torch Flame guys pulled an ops normal arrest dosen't make him anything other than a dead earth sack. Now, if you guys really wanted to do something you would be asking for John Ashcrofts head on a platter (the same one that Janet Reno's head should have been sitting on) and for President Bush to do something about them. I have yet to read anything in the Sierra Times, WorldNet Daily, Free Republic and more webpages calling for this action. To me this was about the same reaction by the feds as was Waco and Ruby Ridge. In each of these cases had they persons involved surrendered nothing may have happened. Don't believe me? Ask Randy Weaver what he would have done if he could go back and do it again. I did. He would much rather be in jail with his wife and son alive. I for one will not make out Beck to be anything other than a moron.
Link Posted: 9/9/2001 10:32:35 AM EDT
"Dead Men Tell No Tales"
Link Posted: 9/9/2001 10:45:46 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/9/2001 10:45:43 AM EDT by LotBoy]
Go along to get along is that it? Boy I'm fucked.
Link Posted: 9/9/2001 10:53:09 AM EDT
Does anyone know for sure what his status as a LEO was?? I mean REALLY REALLY KNOW? Hey you LEOs out there, run his name through your data base, I wouldn't be surprised if it came back, DO NOT DETAIN. I have heard this same thing many times while listening to scanners, and this is with a long criminal profile proceeding the do not detain order. For all we know, this guy may have crossed up some fellow fed LEOs, and became a persona non grata within their ranks. ???????? Waterdog
Link Posted: 9/9/2001 11:51:44 AM EDT
Originally Posted By osprey21: I make my living off the evening news Just give me something, something I can use People love it when you lose They love dirty laundry Well I could have been an actor But I wound up here I just have to look good I don't have to be clear Come and whisper in my ear Give us dirty laundry Kick 'em when they're up, kick 'em when they're down (3X) Kick 'em when they're up, kick 'em all around We got the bubble-headed bleach blonde Comes on at five She can tell you 'bout the plane crash With a gleam in her eye It's int'resting when people die Give us dirty laundry Can we film the operation Is the head dead yet Y'know the boys in the newsroom Got a running bet Get the widow on the set We need dirty laundry You don't really need to find out what's going on You don't really want to know just how far it's gone Just leave well enough alone Eat your dirty laundry Kick 'em when they're up, kick 'em when they're down (3X) Kick 'em where they sit, kick 'em all around Kick 'em when they're up, kick 'em when they're down (3X) Kick 'em where they sit, kick 'em all around Dirty little secrets, dirty little lies We got our dirty little fingers in everybody's pies We love to cut you down to size We love dirty laundry We can do the innuendo We can dance and sing When it's said and done We haven't told you a thing We all know that crap is king Give us dirty laundry [b]Kinda Fits....Dont It !?[/b]
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Exactly. A Don Henley classic. I have the CD and it is one of my favorite songs.[:D]
Link Posted: 9/9/2001 12:00:17 PM EDT
Great Now I am a double wacko. I own more than 1 gun, therefore I am a stockpiling wacko. I am single, therefore I am a misfit wacko if I live in a house without a family? What this country has become just makes me want to wrech!
Link Posted: 9/9/2001 12:03:54 PM EDT
Originally Posted By osprey21: We can do the innuendo We can dance and sing When it's said and done We haven't told you a thing We all know that crap is king Give us dirty laundry [b]Kinda Fits....Dont It !?[/b]
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Man, I have never took the time to listen to the lyrics to that song, man fits those folks to the letter T. Junk food for the mind.
Link Posted: 9/9/2001 3:42:51 PM EDT
As long as I can remember, whenever a single guy bought a home in the neighborhood, the womenz immediately felt threatened, like they're afraid hubby will start hanging out in the guy's garage drinking beer, talking about cars and young hotties. Married womenz are threatened by single guys. I wish I had a dollar for every time I've seen this phenomenon.
Link Posted: 9/9/2001 4:21:39 PM EDT
Originally Posted By mattja: As long as I can remember, whenever a single guy bought a home in the neighborhood, the womenz immediately felt threatened, like they're afraid hubby will start hanging out in the guy's garage drinking beer, talking about cars and young hotties. Married womenz are threatened by single guys. I wish I had a dollar for every time I've seen this phenomenon.
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Load 'o crap, isn't it?
Link Posted: 9/9/2001 5:21:19 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/9/2001 5:47:41 PM EDT
stubbs, yep, major load!
Link Posted: 9/9/2001 5:55:02 PM EDT
Originally Posted By mattja: As long as I can remember, whenever a single guy bought a home in the neighborhood, the womenz immediately felt threatened, like they're afraid hubby will start hanging out in the guy's garage drinking beer, talking about cars and young hotties. Married womenz are threatened by single guys. I wish I had a dollar for every time I've seen this phenomenon.
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My experience from owning a house in a subdivision, it was the hubbies who felt threatened by the single guy who was going to get in their wives pants, sometimes with justification [:D] I actually had one guy come to my door and say as much and did not want me anywhere near his wife. I just asked him if he had looked at his wife lately and told him that HE had nothing to worry about.
Link Posted: 9/9/2001 6:09:43 PM EDT
Thank you for posting the lyrics to "dirty laundry" haven't heard that in YEARS! UHH! Is the head dead yet? TF
Link Posted: 9/9/2001 6:18:47 PM EDT
LARRYG, I suppose you were standing in front of the guy's house licking your eyebrows earlier that day. he he
Link Posted: 9/9/2001 6:20:07 PM EDT
Originally Posted By mattja: LARRYG, I suppose you were standing in front of the guy's house licking your eyebrows earlier that day. he he
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Not his, maybe the house next door.
Link Posted: 9/9/2001 11:05:47 PM EDT
hmmm.... so the women's concerns were that he was single, he had toys and children's movies in his house, he liked kids, and he kept to himself. The rest of the article brought up that he was a lier, liked to dress up and play officer, and he had guns - some stolen. I wonder how many of these women were much different when they were single. Well they may not have had a stock pile of guns. It would have been interesting to see how they would react if it had been a woman instead. [spank] nosey neighbors
Link Posted: 9/9/2001 11:42:03 PM EDT
Originally Posted By DVDTracker:
She knew that inside his home he had dozens of stuffed animals and a collection of Disney movies. "Why would a grown man have toys?" she wondered. The women discussed holding a neighborhood meeting and tipping off authorities.
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So grown men that own toys makes them criminals. Well, come lock me up and confiscate my Legos! I'm going to start cleaning my guns with the garage door open.
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And what would they have said if he had porno tapes and beanbag chairs instead?
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