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Posted: 9/2/2001 2:10:25 PM EDT
I've been out of the loop, any new info in the last 24 hrs.?
Link Posted: 9/2/2001 2:12:49 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/2/2001 2:22:16 PM EDT
Do we know what type of gun it was?
Link Posted: 9/2/2001 2:28:21 PM EDT
Gobblin, Won't know which gun until they dig it out of their "half burnt guns warehouse".
Link Posted: 9/2/2001 2:29:00 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin: Do we know what type of gun it was?
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No word yet. This is the last I have seen: "Underneath the body they found an assault rifle, and close by they found another rifle and a bulletproof vest," he said. Investigators also found a police identification badge and discovered the carcass of Beck's dog in a laundry room leading to the garage, he said"
Link Posted: 9/2/2001 2:36:26 PM EDT
It bugs me that the first thing the LEOs do in this type of situation is start the spin cycle. A deputy gets shot? Had to be the "armed, convicted felon with super-accurate, belt-fed, automatic elephant guns." This one stinks and it appears to be both sides that are oozing sh!t. I hope somebody digs up and reports the truth.
Link Posted: 9/2/2001 3:57:04 PM EDT
On the news they said an assault weapon was discovered and then showed the burnt remains of what looked like a Remington 700.
Link Posted: 9/2/2001 4:01:36 PM EDT
They probably are just going to keep saying "assault weapon" because it probably wasn't an assault weapon at all.
Link Posted: 9/2/2001 4:13:09 PM EDT
Originally Posted By JBR: They probably are just going to keep saying "assault weapon" because it probably wasn't an assault weapon at all.
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Of course. What did you expect? Accurate reporting of the facts?
Link Posted: 9/2/2001 4:15:10 PM EDT
Did the police say AW's or did the media interpret that term in ther?
Link Posted: 9/2/2001 4:22:41 PM EDT
Originally Posted By OLY-M4gery: Did the police say AW's or did the media interpret that term in ther?
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Wouldn't matter either way. A lot of LEO's wouldn't know an assault weapon if it jumped up and bit them on the nose.
Link Posted: 9/2/2001 4:26:00 PM EDT
Face it, everything is an "assault weapon" or "sniper rifle" when the news get's a hold of it.
Link Posted: 9/2/2001 4:27:52 PM EDT
It will be interesting to see what impact this event has on liberty.
Link Posted: 9/2/2001 4:29:33 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Aggie1:
Originally Posted By OLY-M4gery: Did the police say AW's or did the media interpret that term in ther?
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Wouldn't matter either way. A lot of LEO's wouldn't know an assault weapon if it jumped up and bit them on the nose.
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Well my point was a PD that makes a consious choice to "characterize" weapons by using that term, if they know they are not is misleading the public, deception etc. The news people have no requirement to know what an assualt weapon is, and often use it to describe a weapon used in an assualt. I think if weapons are mis-named who did it is key especially if there is motive for deception.
Link Posted: 9/2/2001 4:34:20 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin: It will be interesting to see what impact this event has on liberty.
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This could go 2 ways: 1) He may be seen as a criminal who was willing to do whatever was neccesary to get/keep weapons, icluding killing. This might not do anything except make people leery of criminals 2) If he is embraced by parts of the gun community, expect bad things. Because then it becomes a gun problem not a criminal problem.
Link Posted: 9/2/2001 4:45:28 PM EDT
True. I think we ought to refrain from associating ourselves from a cop-killer. Now, if the truth comes out that the law had no business going after this guy... As it stands, looks like he was a wacko. Time might tell us what really happened.
Link Posted: 9/2/2001 4:47:57 PM EDT
Originally Posted By OLY-M4gery:
Originally Posted By Aggie1:
Originally Posted By OLY-M4gery: Did the police say AW's or did the media interpret that term in ther?
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Wouldn't matter either way. A lot of LEO's wouldn't know an assault weapon if it jumped up and bit them on the nose.
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Well my point was a PD that makes a consious choice to "characterize" weapons by using that term, if they know they are not is misleading the public, deception etc. The news people have no requirement to know what an assualt weapon is, and often use it to describe a weapon used in an assualt. I think if weapons are mis-named who did it is key especially if there is motive for deception.
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Your first point is very true. However, the news media does have a duty to report the unbiased truth{smirk} to the best of their ability. The reality is far from that, however.
Link Posted: 9/2/2001 4:51:00 PM EDT
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My first point has sinister implications if there was a misrepresentation. They said he had 3 "AW's" last I saw. AR-15 and an AK-47 is it me or is there some questionable math? The second tho' bad is not quite as sinister. Tabloid Journalism has been mainstream since the '80's
Link Posted: 9/2/2001 5:29:09 PM EDT
So three"assault" weapons is now considered a"STOCKPILE" eh ??? And BTW, I thought the definition of a "assault weapon" is full auto. were these full auto ??? Oh well, The atf will just plant whatever they want depending on their needs. [img]www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/smilie/nogood.gif[/img]
Link Posted: 9/2/2001 7:32:26 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin: It will be interesting to see what impact this event has on liberty.
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Your putten on airs there... If you mean what will it do to gun control? Nothin Gun control are bad words in Washington these days.
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