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Posted: 4/12/2006 9:10:04 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/12/2006 9:10:14 AM EDT by M4-AK]
and thinks it's one beautiful and all of one piece design all over car?

M4-AK
Link Posted: 4/12/2006 9:12:04 AM EDT
i think its the new miata.


i kinda like it, kind dont. i havent decided.
Link Posted: 4/12/2006 9:13:15 AM EDT
I think the Miata is the better car, but man does that thing bring back 54 Corvette and 50's Jaguar xkss racer in one body. Looks to me like one designer did the whole thing.

M4-AK
Link Posted: 4/12/2006 9:14:42 AM EDT


I've driven one.
Link Posted: 4/12/2006 9:15:06 AM EDT
Is the Turbo out yet. I may have to get my ass to a Pontiac dealership and test drive that bad boy. If it is anything like a Miata I would have to use a shoe horn to get in. I could barely fit in one when I was 12.
Link Posted: 4/12/2006 9:16:25 AM EDT
it looks great from the rear, the front looks like a wide BMW Z4 with a short hood.

if they changed the front it would be great.
Link Posted: 4/12/2006 9:18:21 AM EDT

Originally Posted By jmarkma:
Is the Turbo out yet. I may have to get my ass to a Pontiac dealership and test drive that bad boy. If it is anything like a Miata I would have to use a shoe horn to get in. I could barely fit in one when I was 12.



yes, there is another supercharged model coming, but remember it's GM and might be a long time off. They still have a 5 speed in this car in 2006. I am surprised it has disc brakes all the way around. GM beancounters just stifle the completion of some cars.
Link Posted: 4/12/2006 9:18:56 AM EDT
Saw one last month at the local Steak and Shake in Anderson, Indiana.
Not bad, but limited appeal, I figure.
Link Posted: 4/12/2006 9:19:17 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/12/2006 9:19:47 AM EDT by TheRedHorseman]

Originally Posted By M4-AK:They still have a 5 speed in this car in 2006.

do you want an auto in that thing?
Link Posted: 4/12/2006 9:19:21 AM EDT
I've seen several and they are nice looking and affordable...GM should have been doing this sort of thing 15 years ago before or shortly after the Miata revived that segment
Link Posted: 4/12/2006 9:31:36 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/12/2006 9:33:21 AM EDT by Tannim]

Originally Posted By M4-AK:

Originally Posted By jmarkma:
Is the Turbo out yet. I may have to get my ass to a Pontiac dealership and test drive that bad boy. If it is anything like a Miata I would have to use a shoe horn to get in. I could barely fit in one when I was 12.



yes, there is another supercharged TURBO model coming, but remember it's GM and might be a long time off. They still have a 5 speed in this car in 2006. I am surprised it has disc brakes all the way around. GM beancounters just stifle the completion of some cars.



I like the Sky from Saturn much better. Same car, different front end.

If I wasn't happy with my camaro, I'd get a Sky Redline and play with boost settings.
Link Posted: 4/12/2006 9:33:37 AM EDT
Link Posted: 4/12/2006 9:50:13 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/12/2006 9:50:39 AM EDT by 223-Buckaroo]
TTIWWOP



Link Posted: 4/12/2006 9:55:34 AM EDT
How much are they?
Link Posted: 4/12/2006 9:56:44 AM EDT

Originally Posted By falaholic1:
How much are they?



About $19K, base price IIRC.
Link Posted: 4/12/2006 9:56:51 AM EDT
I've seen a bunch of them. They're VERY cool little cars... I'd love to get one but doubt I'd fit in it!
Link Posted: 4/12/2006 9:59:22 AM EDT

Originally Posted By macman37:
I've seen a bunch of them. They're VERY cool little cars... I'd love to get one but doubt I'd fit in it!



I'm 5'11, and I fit just fine. They're roomier than they look.
Link Posted: 4/12/2006 10:00:05 AM EDT

Originally Posted By TheRedHorseman:

Originally Posted By M4-AK:They still have a 5 speed in this car in 2006.

do you want an auto in that thing?





Ummmm a 6 speed maybe.
Link Posted: 4/12/2006 10:00:26 AM EDT

Originally Posted By DanishM1Garand:

Originally Posted By TheRedHorseman:

Originally Posted By M4-AK:They still have a 5 speed in this car in 2006.

do you want an auto in that thing?





Ummmm a 6 speed maybe.



that's what I'm hoping the response would be.
Link Posted: 4/12/2006 10:01:23 AM EDT

Originally Posted By DanishM1Garand:

Originally Posted By TheRedHorseman:

Originally Posted By M4-AK:They still have a 5 speed in this car in 2006.

do you want an auto in that thing?





Ummmm a 6 speed maybe.




MX5 is available with 6 speed manual, or 6 speed auto.... Solstice just 5 speed manual and some kind of automatic. Doubtful it's even a 5 speed automatic.

The MX5 has paddle wheel shifters for the auto.
Link Posted: 4/12/2006 10:04:39 AM EDT
How much room is there? I am 6'1 and wear size 15 shoes, is there any hope
Link Posted: 4/12/2006 10:05:55 AM EDT
cute car

2 problems

not enough power to interest me.

It's still a pontiac.

TXL
Link Posted: 4/12/2006 10:06:46 AM EDT

Originally Posted By SubnetMask:

Originally Posted By macman37:
I've seen a bunch of them. They're VERY cool little cars... I'd love to get one but doubt I'd fit in it!



I'm 5'11, and I fit just fine. They're roomier than they look.



I'm 6'4" and 235lbs right now... sometimes cars just don't fit guys like me.
Link Posted: 4/12/2006 10:06:58 AM EDT

Originally Posted By SubnetMask:

Originally Posted By falaholic1:
How much are they?



About $19K, base price IIRC.



Options: Modify
Air conditioning, front, manual $960.00
Brakes, 4-wheel antilock $400.00
Convenience Package, includes (K34) Cruise control, (U68) Driver Information Center, (T96) Fog lamps and steering wheel accessory cruise control and Driver Information Center controls $465.00
Differential, limited slip, rear $195.00
Engine, , ECOTEC 2.4L DOHC, 4-cylinder, SFI, aluminum (preliminary 177 HP [132.0 kW] @ 6600 rpm, 166 lb.-ft. [224.1 N-m] @ 4800 rpm) No Charge
Floormats, carpeted, front $60.00
Power Package, includes (A31) Windows, power, (AU3) Door locks, power, (AU0) Keyless entry, remote and (D48) Mirrors, outside rearview, power, remote control, electric, body-color $625.00
Premium Package, includes (N34) Steering wheel, 3-spoke, leather-wrapped with (UK3) Steering wheel accessory controls and (192) Ebony or (312) Steel/Sand leather seating surfaces $690.00
Sound system feature, Monsoon premium speaker system, includes amplified 7-speaker audio system, 2 6-inch door speakers, 2 1-inch A-pillar tweeters, 2 3.5-inch rear speakers and 1 subwoofer $395.00
Sound system, ETR AM/FM stereo with CD player and MP3 playback, includes Radio Data System (RDS), seek-and-scan, digital clock, auto-tone control, speed-compensated volume and TheftLock $195.00
Transmission, 5-speed manual, close-ratio, includes leather-wrapped shift knob No Charge
Wheels, 18" (45.7 cm), aluminum, chromed $795.00
Pricing:
Base MSRP*: $20,490.00
Options Total: $4,780.00
Total MSRP*: Estimate Payment $25,270.00



Link Posted: 4/12/2006 10:07:44 AM EDT
I have seen them and they look ok but not enough power.
Link Posted: 4/12/2006 10:13:55 AM EDT

Originally Posted By BamaTactical:
I have seen them and they look ok but not enough power.




Any vehicle that weighs 3000lbs with a low torque 4 cyl will be gutless.
V-6 or Turbo 4 would do it.
Link Posted: 4/12/2006 10:27:53 AM EDT
I've seen one up close on a lot and a few on the road... stunningly good looks, IMHO (but I do love little roadsters ).
Link Posted: 4/12/2006 10:29:06 AM EDT

Originally Posted By jmarkma:
How much room is there? I am 6'1 and wear size 15 shoes, is there any hope


Amputation?
Link Posted: 4/12/2006 10:29:50 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/12/2006 10:30:44 AM EDT by HardShell]

Originally Posted By jmarkma:
... If it is anything like a Miata I would have to use a shoe horn to get in. I could barely fit in one when I was 12.



I'm 6'3" and 300# and I've had a Miata for over 15 years now (granted, I was 80# lighter when I first bought it ).

I still drive it at least once a week.



FWIW, I've heard the Solstice is a little less forgiving of height than the Miata...
Link Posted: 4/12/2006 10:45:52 AM EDT
I saw one at the State Fair of Texas last year:


It was sharp looking, but I liked this one better:


Spa King
Link Posted: 4/12/2006 10:52:02 AM EDT

Originally Posted By BamaTactical:
I have seen them and they look ok but not enough power.



If I remember correctly, Hot Rod magazine said that an LS2 will fit under the hood without much difficulty.

I actually haven't seen a solstice, but i have seen the Saturn Sky a couple of times.
Link Posted: 4/12/2006 11:33:44 AM EDT
Oh I thought you were talking about the celibration at stonehenge where people dance around naKED
Link Posted: 4/12/2006 11:42:40 AM EDT
For the 'not enough power' people, the fun of that car is not in straight accelleration, it's in taking turns and weaving unlike any 'American muscle car' could ever handle.

I think they're a great idea, and I would be tempted to pick up a used one in a few years.

What's on my mind now would be a used Miata, and doing this body kit:





Link Posted: 4/12/2006 11:49:53 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Matthew_Q:
For the 'not enough power' people, the fun of that car is not in straight accelleration, it's in taking turns and weaving unlike any 'American muscle car' could ever handle...



Amen. Different tools (each with its merits) for different jobs (ditto).

Sliding an "underpowered" little roadster through the twisties at/near full throttle can be a LOT of fun...
Link Posted: 4/12/2006 11:52:14 AM EDT
I saw a wrecked one today.
Link Posted: 4/12/2006 11:59:28 AM EDT
I sat in one and I thought they were nice but I am still undecided. I would rather take my muscle car and do some upgrades to the suspension to make it a corner carver and have straight line acceleration.
Link Posted: 4/12/2006 12:34:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/12/2006 12:35:49 PM EDT by jthuang]


Saw the pre-production model at the 2004 Auto Show in Philly. You will note that the "real" Solstice doesn't have the exhaust you can see in this photo I took:



There was an article in C&D about some outfit that is stuffing the Corvette V8 into the Solstice. It's a cool idea but for $51k you could buy a Vette convertible.
Link Posted: 4/12/2006 2:23:23 PM EDT
I think getting a car like that, getting a little more power out of it... would be better (and cheaper) than what I'd really want to do: build a nice 72(ish) Porsche 911 RS clone and get buttloads of power out of it.

A little, well balanced roadster would be hella fun to throw around at a track. IIRC, the Solstice/Sky has a near 50/50 weight distribution, so it should handle pretty dang well.


And yeah, I've heard of 150hp Porsches stomping on cars with 3x as much power on twisty tracks.

Remember: Straight tracks are for fast cars. Twisty tracks are for fast drivers.
Link Posted: 4/12/2006 3:16:05 PM EDT
My sister has one. Jeff
Link Posted: 4/12/2006 3:27:14 PM EDT
This thread is about a car? You are all just a bunch of pagans...wait.

I too was hoping for nekkid chic talk/pics.


ByteTheBullet (-:
Link Posted: 4/12/2006 3:38:19 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Matthew_Q:
For the 'not enough power' people, the fun of that car is not in straight accelleration, it's in taking turns and weaving unlike any 'American muscle car' could ever handle.

I think they're a great idea, and I would be tempted to pick up a used one in a few years.

What's on my mind now would be a used Miata, and doing this body kit:

www.simpsondesign.net/italia/italia_demo05.jpg

www.simpsondesign.net/italia/italia_demo08.jpg





Wheres that kit from? I have a v-8 miata in the works
Link Posted: 4/12/2006 3:47:50 PM EDT
Link Posted: 4/12/2006 4:17:09 PM EDT

Originally Posted By SubnetMask:

Originally Posted By falaholic1:
How much are they?



About $19K, base price IIRC.



With turbo the target MSRP is supposed to be 24.

Best deal on the market if they make that happen.
Link Posted: 4/12/2006 4:19:07 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MTUSA:

Originally Posted By BamaTactical:
I have seen them and they look ok but not enough power.




Any vehicle that weighs 3000lbs with a low torque 4 cyl will be gutless.
V-6 or Turbo 4 would do it.



262 hp w/ 240ish ft-lbs of torque with stock turbo. At 2800 lbs.

I figure you can probably get 300 hp with the right mods.

In a small rwd package these will be quick cars.
Link Posted: 4/12/2006 4:20:29 PM EDT
Link Posted: 4/12/2006 4:20:44 PM EDT

Originally Posted By SkyCatII:

Originally Posted By BamaTactical:
I have seen them and they look ok but not enough power.



If I remember correctly, Hot Rod magazine said that an LS2 will fit under the hood without much difficulty.

I actually haven't seen a solstice, but i have seen the Saturn Sky a couple of times.



Someone already makes it for $40,000. Up to $55,000 if you want 600 hp.
Link Posted: 4/12/2006 4:23:16 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/12/2006 4:25:13 PM EDT
i've seen one... looks like a lima bean with wheels. no thanks
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