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Posted: 4/10/2006 9:53:32 PM EDT
My money's on five years.

After Congress and El Presidente Jorge Boosh drop trou on the illegal deal (this will happen within the month), I give the U.S. five years before it looks and acts like Mafia-run Russia, or France (the land of the Burning Peugot).

The illegals simply don't mind their 13-year-old girls sexing up with various and sundry losers, and are thrilled to raise more welfare babies that will suck dry the Federal Teat.

Five years on the outside. Poll to follow.
Link Posted: 4/10/2006 9:54:00 PM EDT
87 days or weeks
Link Posted: 4/10/2006 9:54:34 PM EDT
87 Weeks
Link Posted: 4/10/2006 9:56:06 PM EDT

Originally Posted By adair_usmc:
87 Weeks



34 seconds
Link Posted: 4/10/2006 9:56:40 PM EDT
Yo quero Taco Bell.
Link Posted: 4/10/2006 10:07:17 PM EDT
Too many variables to possibly predict. An awful lot of things could happen at this point.

Not looking good and the bottom line IMO is that "Entitlements" are what have created the entire mess we are in and the addiction of Americans for handouts will perpetuate the problem and prevent a resolution.

I hope our politicians pay a heavy price for the betrayal of their nation.
Link Posted: 4/10/2006 10:07:34 PM EDT
I give it 5-9 but I've had it if this measure goes through. Time to stock up on "supplies" now.
Link Posted: 4/10/2006 10:10:48 PM EDT

Originally Posted By drjarhead:
I hope our politicians pay a heavy price for the betrayal of their nation.



Nope just you me my friend, just you me, it's always the people on the bottom that suffer the most.

This country is already gone, dead trees take years to fall.
Link Posted: 4/10/2006 10:12:40 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 01GT281:
I give it 5-9 but I've had it if this measure goes through. Time to stock up on "supplies" now.



I am getting strong "must buy ammo... not enough ammo" feelings, and they get worse every frickin' day.

Nothing else is helping relieve the relentless pressure of the Socialist Culture being applied to my soul on a daily basis from people I swear we had beaten down in 1991.
Link Posted: 4/10/2006 10:20:45 PM EDT
Hopefully enough time for me to buy and stock my own private island, and watch it all fall apart from the outside.
Link Posted: 4/10/2006 10:35:20 PM EDT
I want to form an ARMY and stomp the shit out of everybody who feels for these sorry south of the border fucks.

I live in California and my wife was oblivious to the whole illegal alien thing until I practically grabbed her head and forced here to watch the TV today. Before she thought all this was nothing of importance. The Aztlan thing was all tin foil, and nothing to be concerned about. Finally she looks at me and says, "If they get amnesty alot of thing are going to change for the worse." I said yea, "You ever heard of Rome."

We Are Fucked
Link Posted: 4/10/2006 10:38:44 PM EDT

Originally Posted By readytorock556:
I want to form an ARMY and stomp the shit out of everybody who feels for these sorry south of the border fucks.

I live in California and my wife was oblivious to the whole illegal alien thing until I practically grabbed her head and forced here to watch the TV today. Before she thought all this was nothing of importance. The Aztlan thing was all tin foil, and nothing to be concerned about. Finally she looks at me and says, "If they get amnesty alot of thing are going to change for the worse." I said yea, "You ever heard of Rome."

We Are Fucked




Sums it up rather nicely.

Link Posted: 4/10/2006 10:45:33 PM EDT
As bad as it sounds to be discussing granting amnesty to those illegals already here, that's really kids stuffed compared to the border issue. Until we make an actual serious effort to stop new entries, then it makes little difference what we do with the millions currently here. While we are locating and kicking out those people, about 10 million more will be replacing them. We must close the damn border. Then we must make an effort to locate and kick out as many of those already here as possible. We might not be able to kick them all out due to certain moral reasons (say those who have been here a number of years and have kids in school, etc). But just because we might not want to kick them all out doesn't mean we shouldn't make an effort to get rid of as many as we can. If we could just locate and send back 1 million of them, that alone will be a huge amount of weight pulled off the shoulders of our nation's healthcare system. Then, we need to prevent hoardes of new illegal immigranst from getting here.

But I'm not going to hold my breath.
Link Posted: 4/10/2006 10:46:06 PM EDT
I put the state of our country kind of like being on the outside rim of a black hole...we are slowly being sucked in, we just don't know it yet, and even if we did there isn't much we can do to escape it.
Link Posted: 4/10/2006 10:52:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/10/2006 10:52:33 PM EDT by AROptics]
I wish states could secede, but I guess that has been tried before.

It is ironic that the reason to secede would be to escape the endless waves of slave wage laborers the rich "import" at the expense of the middle class.
Link Posted: 4/10/2006 10:59:48 PM EDT
I belive we are already fucked, just gonna take time to unravel. PC will put the final nail in the coffin.
Link Posted: 4/10/2006 11:02:38 PM EDT

Originally Posted By STRATIOTES:

Originally Posted By drjarhead:
I hope our politicians pay a heavy price for the betrayal of their nation.



Nope just you me my friend, just you me, it's always the people on the bottom that suffer the most.

This country is already gone, dead trees take years to fall.



Depressing, yet strangely poetic...
Link Posted: 4/10/2006 11:08:27 PM EDT
I walked around down town Chicago this weekend , and noticed our "friends from south of the boarder" seem to have a new found Chip on their shoulders , am i just Paranoid ?
Link Posted: 4/10/2006 11:28:07 PM EDT

Originally Posted By buzgun:
I walked around down town Chicago this weekend , and noticed our "friends from south of the boarder" seem to have a new found Chip on their shoulders , am i just Paranoid ?



Don't worry the guerrilla insurgency will start in time.
Link Posted: 4/11/2006 12:20:36 AM EDT
I have been preparing myself for the revolution that is imminent. Last year I realized the prudence of acquiring NFA weapons, so I did.

N - Neuter
F - Fuckin'
A - Aliens
Link Posted: 4/11/2006 12:25:10 AM EDT
It all depends on who becomes the next POTUS, So I am bettin 5 or less
Link Posted: 4/11/2006 12:29:21 AM EDT
Why is it so hot? And what am I doing in this handbasket?
Link Posted: 4/11/2006 3:17:52 AM EDT
Link Posted: 4/11/2006 3:20:45 AM EDT

Originally Posted By samsong:
My money's on five years.





It will take 2 -3 POTUS Terms. More aging, voting baby boomers dying off will seal the deal
Link Posted: 4/11/2006 3:23:10 AM EDT

Originally Posted By STRATIOTES:


This country is already gone, dead trees take years to fall.




That is brilliant and sig line in the making...Wow
Link Posted: 4/11/2006 3:25:55 AM EDT
We will see a "illegal alien intifada" before long only it will be a Marxist-driven and not Muslim-backed. Has "Jorge Boosh" dissolved the Border Patrol? NO!

The House plan will stand. Some dumb wet (and I will continue to use this term until the "G" term for whites is banned) will start with the violence and this whole movement will forever be tainted with violence. Hell, they almost jumped the shark with all the FOREIGN flags.

Link Posted: 4/11/2006 3:28:57 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/11/2006 3:29:12 AM EDT by TomJefferson]
Link Posted: 4/11/2006 3:38:58 AM EDT
Its not just them. I can't see how it can last with the uneducated and uncaring people that make up the bulk of the population and now, thanks to the media feel "informed". Look at the anti war movement and the polls surrounding it. They are totally dictated by the 4th branch of government...CNN.

The people are getting dumber and are being fed a steady diet of BS by the media while isolating themselves in their own little bubble of starbucks and desperate housewives. The people lack courage and the ability to take care of themselves. They depend on the .gov for their daily needs and because of that, fear the real world. They fear having to work for real and having to defend themselves or be accountable. The PC world and liability make the decisions, honor, courage, committment...they are just words that used to have meaning in our culture. Now they are advertising slogans and commercials.

America has grown fat and decadent. We are on the downward slide. The generation that fought WW2 is gone and with them, the values that kept America strong. Todays America by in large is a shell of its former self.

The question is what will happen after the fall... invasion? dictatorship? try again? who would be in charge? would the "fall" happen at once or would rights just gradually go away? Who knows.
Link Posted: 4/11/2006 3:50:15 AM EDT

Originally Posted By buzgun:
I walked around down town Chicago this weekend , and noticed our "friends from south of the boarder" seem to have a new found Chip on their shoulders , am i just Paranoid ?



I noted that in another thread. The attitude is caustic.
Link Posted: 4/11/2006 4:19:33 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/11/2006 4:20:17 AM EDT by MTUSA]

Originally Posted By FedDC:


America has grown fat and decadent. We are on the downward slide. The generation that fought WW2 is gone and with them, the values that kept America strong. Todays America by in large is a shell of its former self.




+1

In a way, our prosperity will be our downfall. Hate to piss in someone's corn flakes, but
all this shit is our own fault. Leadership has left the borders unchecked for decades.
Business owners break the law by hiring these bastards. Painted into the corner folks. This sucks.
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