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Posted: 4/8/2006 7:50:55 PM EDT
My Wolff gun springs came for my P229 today. I had them in my Ruger GP100, and my wife has them in her Sig P232 .380.

I ordered reduced hammer springs and a replacement recoil spring. The old recoil spring has about 8,000 rounds through it, and with my new .357Sig barrel I wanted a new one. Now, the stock spring looks like a cable; it's many strands and easy as hell to compress. I have to tell you though, this Wolff 17 pounder had me cursing at the top of lungs in my office. I even snapped at my wife when she asked me what was going on. It literally took me 20 minutes to get the sucker installed, and one time I had it almost compressed and the guide shot out and dented the sheetrock near the window (pic coming).

Now I'm worried that I'm going to go through this saga every time I field strip the pistol. A 17lb spring should nto give a thirty-something man this much hassle. Anyone else have this problem when transitioning from the cable-type spring to a normal coil spring?
Link Posted: 4/8/2006 7:52:04 PM EDT
The 16lb spring I put in my CZ was a bitch and a half. Didn't take me 20 minutes to get it in, tho.

Get it in and work it a bit, then go shoot the gun to work it in before you disassemble.
Link Posted: 4/8/2006 8:17:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/8/2006 8:29:04 PM EDT by PeteCO]

Originally Posted By Matthew_Q:
The 16lb spring I put in my CZ was a bitch and a half. Didn't take me 20 minutes to get it in, tho.

Get it in and work it a bit, then go shoot the gun to work it in before you disassemble.



Yeah, I tried to leave the slide locked back for a few hours. I'm sure as hell not taking it apart for a while. Even after I put 300 rounds through it tomorrow, I'll probably be too pussy to take it apart - my damn fingers hurt!!!!!!

Link Posted: 4/8/2006 8:20:09 PM EDT
time to hit the gym
Link Posted: 4/8/2006 8:24:48 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Napoleon_Tanerite:
time to hit the gym



That's what I was thinking.




Link Posted: 4/8/2006 8:31:32 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Matthew_Q:
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Get it in and work it a bit, then go shoot the gun to work it in before you disassemble.



Dat sounds a little bit freaky freaky.
Link Posted: 4/8/2006 8:33:06 PM EDT
GLOCK factory captured guide rod and recoil spring = simple removal / install

I used the Wolff uncaptured rod and 17 lb spring, it was rather difficult to install it the first time, but after awhile the spring takes a compression set and it gets easier.
Link Posted: 4/8/2006 8:34:51 PM EDT

YEE HAW!!!
Link Posted: 4/8/2006 9:42:37 PM EDT

Originally Posted By drjarhead:

Originally Posted By Napoleon_Tanerite:
time to hit the gym



That's what I was thinking.






You guys suck. It was not a hand strength problem, rather a resitance to pain issue. Ouch.
Link Posted: 4/8/2006 9:46:18 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Napoleon_Tanerite:
time to hit the gym



Yep, sometimes it sucks being a metrosexual
Link Posted: 4/8/2006 9:46:52 PM EDT
use a table and push the gun against it!
Link Posted: 4/9/2006 7:27:16 AM EDT

Originally Posted By PeteCO:

Originally Posted By drjarhead:

Originally Posted By Napoleon_Tanerite:
time to hit the gym



That's what I was thinking.






You guys suck. It was not a hand strength problem, rather a resitance to pain issue. Ouch.



WE suck?
You aren't strong enough to keep a spring from kicking your ass and now you can't take a little pain?

So you're really a girl, right?





J/K

Anyhow, I will tell you how I do it.
Wrap both hands around mag on table. Alternating index fingers I work one coil after another into the mag using alternate fingers. Once in I grasp mag tight and get index finger over the top. Once there in controlled position I can slide the floor plate on and voila!

Maybe it'll help, maybe it won't as you may have already figured that out.

Or maybe you just need to hit the gym.

I guess the libtard in the line at the DMV didn't have much to worry about.


Link Posted: 4/9/2006 7:37:11 AM EDT

Originally Posted By drjarhead:

Originally Posted By PeteCO:

Originally Posted By drjarhead:

Originally Posted By Napoleon_Tanerite:
time to hit the gym



That's what I was thinking.






You guys suck. It was not a hand strength problem, rather a resitance to pain issue. Ouch.



WE suck?
You aren't strong enough to keep a spring from kicking your ass and now you can't take a little pain?

So you're really a girl, right?





J/K

Anyhow, I will tell you how I do it.
Wrap both hands around mag on table. Alternating index fingers I work one coil after another into the mag using alternate fingers. Once in I grasp mag tight and get index finger over the top. Once there in controlled position I can slide the floor plate on and voila!

Maybe it'll help, maybe it won't as you may have already figured that out.

Or maybe you just need to hit the gym.

I guess the libtard in the line at the DMV didn't have much to worry about.





I really want to see you install the recoil spring in a magazine. Reading is fundamental. Comprehension is complex.
Link Posted: 4/9/2006 12:29:57 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Aggie1:

Originally Posted By drjarhead:

Originally Posted By PeteCO:

Originally Posted By drjarhead:

Originally Posted By Napoleon_Tanerite:
time to hit the gym



That's what I was thinking.






You guys suck. It was not a hand strength problem, rather a resitance to pain issue. Ouch.



WE suck?
You aren't strong enough to keep a spring from kicking your ass and now you can't take a little pain?

So you're really a girl, right?





J/K

Anyhow, I will tell you how I do it.
Wrap both hands around mag on table. Alternating index fingers I work one coil after another into the mag using alternate fingers. Once in I grasp mag tight and get index finger over the top. Once there in controlled position I can slide the floor plate on and voila!

Maybe it'll help, maybe it won't as you may have already figured that out.

Or maybe you just need to hit the gym.

I guess the libtard in the line at the DMV didn't have much to worry about.





I really want to see you install the recoil spring in a magazine. Reading is fundamental. Comprehension is complex.



Alright, I deserve that and I can take my lumps.

Still funny as hell though, I can just see PeteCo cussing and turning red. LOL.
Link Posted: 4/9/2006 12:48:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/9/2006 12:49:30 PM EDT by PeteCO]

Originally Posted By drjarhead:
Alright, I deserve that and I can take my lumps.

Still funny as hell though, I can just see PeteCo cussing and turning red. LOL.



Yep, I was in my office, "sonofabitch", "dammit", etc and she asked me something. I muttered the answer (not very loudly) and she asked me again. "Dammit, I'm in the middle of something!! Have some patience for shit's sakes!!! Just a second!"

Her: "Hey, don't yell at me just because your toy isn't working right" "You mumble when you are pissed off"

Me: "Grrrr." "Fuck Wolff, fuck Sig, and fuck this fucking spring. Piece of shit."

That's about how it went. As I sit here typing, I am looking down at the pistol, debating whether or to take it apart and see if it has compressed at all. Pain in the ass thing.......I can see it rapidly becoming my nemesis.

The hard part was trying to press the spring AND guide the rod through it at the same time. It kept hanging up on coils right where the counterbore is.
Link Posted: 4/9/2006 1:31:15 PM EDT
Lock the slide open for a few days. Or rack it several hundred times, Or go and shoot several hundred rounds through it.
Link Posted: 4/9/2006 2:42:44 PM EDT

Originally Posted By metroplex:
Lock the slide open for a few days. Or rack it several hundred times, Or go and shoot several hundred rounds through it.



Hell NO! Don't do that! Then it will be time for a new one!

Link Posted: 4/9/2006 2:45:40 PM EDT

Originally Posted By drjarhead:

Originally Posted By Aggie1:

Originally Posted By drjarhead:

Originally Posted By PeteCO:

Originally Posted By drjarhead:

Originally Posted By Napoleon_Tanerite:
time to hit the gym



That's what I was thinking.






You guys suck. It was not a hand strength problem, rather a resitance to pain issue. Ouch.



WE suck?
You aren't strong enough to keep a spring from kicking your ass and now you can't take a little pain?

So you're really a girl, right?





J/K

Anyhow, I will tell you how I do it.
Wrap both hands around mag on table. Alternating index fingers I work one coil after another into the mag using alternate fingers. Once in I grasp mag tight and get index finger over the top. Once there in controlled position I can slide the floor plate on and voila!

Maybe it'll help, maybe it won't as you may have already figured that out.

Or maybe you just need to hit the gym.

I guess the libtard in the line at the DMV didn't have much to worry about.





I really want to see you install the recoil spring in a magazine. Reading is fundamental. Comprehension is complex.



Alright, I deserve that and I can take my lumps.

Still funny as hell though, I can just see PeteCo cussing and turning red. LOL.



All in good fun.
Link Posted: 4/9/2006 2:48:25 PM EDT

Originally Posted By PeteCO:

Originally Posted By drjarhead:
Alright, I deserve that and I can take my lumps.

Still funny as hell though, I can just see PeteCo cussing and turning red. LOL.



Yep, I was in my office, "sonofabitch", "dammit", etc and she asked me something. I muttered the answer (not very loudly) and she asked me again. "Dammit, I'm in the middle of something!! Have some patience for shit's sakes!!! Just a second!"

Her: "Hey, don't yell at me just because your toy isn't working right" "You mumble when you are pissed off"

Me: "Grrrr." "Fuck Wolff, fuck Sig, and fuck this fucking spring. Piece of shit."

That's about how it went. As I sit here typing, I am looking down at the pistol, debating whether or to take it apart and see if it has compressed at all. Pain in the ass thing.......I can see it rapidly becoming my nemesis.

The hard part was trying to press the spring AND guide the rod through it at the same time. It kept hanging up on coils right where the counterbore is.



Pretty much the way I figured it went down.




I'd leave it alone if I were you!
Link Posted: 4/9/2006 2:53:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/9/2006 2:56:30 PM EDT by callgood]


"Raise his voice to me, will he? That pond he likes to swim in just iced over!"
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