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Posted: 4/6/2006 7:29:35 PM EDT
No matter what you think of NASCAR, this ploy by NBC was fucked up, and NASCAR nation should be commended for not falling for the trap



NBC News baited the hook, but netted nothing in its "sting" attempt to find anti-Muslim sentiments during the Martinsville race weekend.

By its own admission NBC News was so "intrigued by the results of a recent Washington Post/ABC News poll and other articles regarding increasing anti-Muslim sentiments in the United States" that it decided to make the news, rather than merely report.


ALSO
NASCAR's governing body called a network television news magazine "outrageous" on Wednesday, saying it tried to provoke anti-Muslim reactions from spectators at last week's race for a story about growing U.S. sentiment against Islam.

Syndicated columnist Michelle Malkin on Monday posted an e-mail -- an apparent solicitation to Muslim groups -- on her Web site. Malkin does not work for NBC, but posted the e-mail under the heading "NBC: Staging the news again?" The e-mail, written by Tarek El-Messidi but not authorized by NBC News, in part said:

I have been talking with a producer of the NBC Dateline show and he is in the process of filming a piece on anti-Muslim and anti-Arab discrimination in the USA. They are looking for some Muslim male candidates for their show who would be willing to go to non-Muslim gatherings and see if they attract any discriminatory comments or actions while being filmed.

They recently taped two turbaned Sikh men attending a football game in Arizona to see how people would treat them. They set them up with hidden microphones and cameras, etc.

They want to do the same thing 2 or 3 other times (in various parts of the USA) with one or two Muslim men in each setting. They are looking for men who actually "look Muslim". They want a guy with no foreign accent whatsoever, a good thick beard, an outgoing personality, and someone willing to wear a kufi/skullcap during the filming.

That said, I'm urgently looking for someone who can be filmed this April 1st weekend at a Nascar event (and other smaller events) in Virginia. NBC is willing to fly in someone and cover their weekend expenses. The filming would take place all day on Saturday and Sunday. (complete text hereexternal link)

The inference is that NASCAR fans are bigots, and NBC News was hoping to bait fans into making insensitive remarks to the Muslim / Arab people it had planted at the track.

Ramsey Poston, NASCAR's managing director of corporate communications, said Wednesday that no instances of unrest were reported. "No one bothered them," Poston said.

It's hard to imagine that NBC News would try to entrap fans in a ploy to make its Dateline segment juicier. But apparently the network did just that; NBC did not deny its actions when confronted by NASCAR.

In a statement released by NBC, it noted that more "plants" are in the works: "It's very early on in our newsgathering process, but be assured we will be visiting a number of locations across the country and are confident that our reporting team is pursuing this story in a fair manner."

Mind-boggling, that's the only way I know to describe that mentality.

"NASCAR thinks it's absolutely outrageous that you have a news organization trying to make the news instead of reporting the news," Poston said.

While NBC News is at it, why not send a few Kluxers into the infield at Talladega? Talk about being short-sheeted by the end of the night.

NBC News should know that NASCAR isn't the last bastion of redneck; the people at NBC Sports thought so much of NASCAR -- and its diverse fan base -- that it chipped in with TNT to spend $1.2 billion for broadcast rights the past six years.

Mike Smith, director of public relations for Martinsville Speedway, said that the Dateline crew's presence wasn't as stealth as it possibly hoped.

"Our security knew almost immediately that [the Dateline crew] were on site and they were monitored the whole time they were here, for obvious reasons -- their protections, fans protection -- and they were not disturbed," Smith said. "It says a lot about our fans.

"If there is an upside, it shows that the image so many people have of NASCAR fans is a false one, and it shows that not only at Martinsville Speedway, but at NASCAR tracks in general, it shows what type of security we have in place that can discover something like this, observe it and make sure nothing happens.

"We've gotten calls [Thursday] from fans praising our security and wanting the number for Dateline," Smith said. "As disappointed as we are, we feel pretty good about the end result."

Take a bow, NASCAR Nation.

Link Posted: 4/6/2006 7:32:22 PM EDT
Knob Creek.
Link Posted: 4/6/2006 7:33:32 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Pangea:
Knob Creek.



they don't want um dead
Link Posted: 4/6/2006 7:38:56 PM EDT
Who has the Nelson "ha ha!" pic?
Link Posted: 4/6/2006 7:40:22 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Pangea:
Knob Creek.


I think you should email Dateline with that idea.
Link Posted: 4/6/2006 7:42:04 PM EDT
Link Posted: 4/6/2006 7:44:49 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Pangea:
Knob Creek.




Classic.
Link Posted: 4/6/2006 8:15:18 PM EDT
Hell if they wanted a reaction they should have put one in a shirt with a little Bin Laden pissing on a winged #3. Though the whole crew might have gone missing.

Link Posted: 4/6/2006 8:22:34 PM EDT
Sikhs are anti-Moslem! DUH!
Link Posted: 4/6/2006 8:24:12 PM EDT
Just the "elite" media trying to make middle America look stupid to the coasters.
Link Posted: 4/6/2006 8:27:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/6/2006 8:29:08 PM EDT by Red-Bucket-98]
I watched her on O'Reilly tonight talk about that.

She is a hotty.

Check out www.michellemalkin.com/.

NBC News is pretty worthless. They are the same ones who fabricated the 'exploding pickup in a side collision' story.


Link Posted: 4/6/2006 8:43:09 PM EDT
Link Posted: 4/6/2006 8:52:24 PM EDT
I'm suprised they didnt put a rocket motor on a muslim and make him blow up.
Link Posted: 4/6/2006 8:54:21 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Pangea:
Knob Creek.



Link Posted: 4/6/2006 9:01:52 PM EDT
NBC is just a class act.

I can't wait for the day that the internet has put these plastic smucks in the unemployment line.
Link Posted: 4/6/2006 9:09:45 PM EDT
Link Posted: 4/6/2006 9:13:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/7/2006 2:24:39 PM EDT by thedoctors308]
farkin' libs
Link Posted: 4/7/2006 12:30:13 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/7/2006 12:30:47 AM EDT by Airwolf]

In a statement released by NBC, it noted that more "plants" are in the works: "It's very early on in our newsgathering process, but be assured we will be visiting a number of locations across the country and are confident that our reporting team is pursuing this story in a fair manner."


BULLFUCKINGSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are NOT "gathering news", that implies that there is an event occurring of which you are investigating and reporting on. What you mega-asswipes are doing is CREATING A FABRICATED SITUATION and then "reporting" the results of your contrivance.

MSM isn't even TRYING to appear as journalists or reporters any more. Don't have a story? No problem, well just conjure one up and do so in a way that fits the agenda we're pushing.

Cocksuckers.
Link Posted: 4/7/2006 12:35:21 AM EDT
THEY KILLT DALE!
Link Posted: 4/7/2006 4:38:45 AM EDT
As long as they stay in the gates and inside the track I doubt they will get what they are looking for. Now in the parkinglots and the camping areas from say 11pm to 2am......all bets are off. The fact that they have brought this out in publics just begs a"hold my beer and watch this" stunt.
Link Posted: 4/7/2006 4:47:01 AM EDT
What they should have done is had them boys scream that Dale Ernhardt sucked. It wouldn't matter what race they were, they would probably get a butt whoopin.....

Contrary to what NBC thinks, most people aren't racists. Not even in Martinsville Virginia.

Liberals, on the other hand, are the biggest group of biggots you can find...
Link Posted: 4/7/2006 4:49:28 AM EDT
Most of the people in Martinsville are too drunk to see straight. They could put a woman in a black burka and all a fan thinks is that she is wearing a Dale Earnhardt hooded sweatshirt.
Link Posted: 4/7/2006 4:50:31 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/7/2006 4:50:58 AM EDT by John_Wayne777]

Originally Posted By VTHOKIESHOOTER:
Most of the people in Martinsville are too drunk to see straight. They could put a woman in a black burka and all a fan thinks is that she is wearing a Dale Earnhardt hooded sweatshirt.



That sounds like something someone from.....FAIRFAX.....would say....

Link Posted: 4/7/2006 4:51:40 AM EDT

Originally Posted By MattyMattel:
Sikhs are anti-Moslem! DUH!



I've talked to several Sikhs and Hindus about the 'issues' with Muslims in India. They're not big fans of them to say the least.
Link Posted: 4/7/2006 4:54:02 AM EDT

Originally Posted By John_Wayne777:

Originally Posted By VTHOKIESHOOTER:
Most of the people in Martinsville are too drunk to see straight. They could put a woman in a black burka and all a fan thinks is that she is wearing a Dale Earnhardt hooded sweatshirt.



That sounds like something someone from.....FAIRFAX.....would say....


I used to be a race fan, but NASACAR has moved away from its roots. I used to go to a lot of races, but I don't even watch them on TV anymore, let alone paying $85 a ticket.
Link Posted: 4/7/2006 4:56:05 AM EDT
Wow, how stupid can NBC be?

So, what's next? They can't get anyone to make any racist remarks at two muslim men sitting in the stands of a NASCAR event, so next time they tell them to tape candles to their bodies under their shirts and then during the national anthem, rasie their shirts up and start screaming "allah ackbar!"

I can just see it now, NBC reporting how the "racist" NASCAR fans attacked two innocent muslim men just minding their own business.
Link Posted: 4/7/2006 5:06:43 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Goonboss:
THEY KILLT DALE!



Right! The Muslims were responsible!

How long will it be before everyone realizes that the wacked-out news media is a big part of the whole problem in the first place? It's as if they need to keep coming up with new hysteria-generating ideas or there'd be no "news."

They'd have you think that they're going around putting out fires, when in actuality they have a lit torch behind their backs.
Link Posted: 4/7/2006 5:07:00 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/7/2006 5:07:49 AM EDT by MTUSA]
Dateline should send two NASCAR Fans to Saudi Arabia to a Thoroughbred Race
just to see what happens to them. Wonder what the outcome would be....
Link Posted: 4/7/2006 7:34:43 AM EDT
I'm shocked and surprised that the news media is up to such sheninigans
Link Posted: 4/7/2006 8:27:53 AM EDT

Originally Posted By MTUSA:
Dateline should send two NASCAR Fans to Saudi Arabia to a Thoroughbred Race
just to see what happens to them. Wonder what the outcome would be....



How about they get two Hasidic Jews (fake of course!) try to gain entry into Saudi Arabia!
They can carry their secret camera under their Yarmulka.
Fucking asshole reporters. LIke somehow despite all the shit thats going on in the world that people should be "shamed" for being suspicious of Hardcore Muslims.
Notice how they pick what they perceive as the most "redneck" "racist" place to go and shame "conservatives" for not being "multi-cultural" enoough.
Maybe they should try this in San fransisco ,or fucking Berkely. cocksuckers.
Link Posted: 4/7/2006 8:51:45 AM EDT
NBC is just pissed at NASCAR because they lost the broadcast rights.
Link Posted: 4/7/2006 8:53:03 AM EDT

Originally Posted By warlord:
I'm shocked and surprised that the news media is up to such sheninigans



i think the only people suprised are the liberals who were proven wrong (again)
Link Posted: 4/7/2006 8:58:42 AM EDT
News reporters trying to make news instead of reporting the news.

NASCAR has paid Jesse Jackson close to 1 Million to keep his mouth shut and not go after NASCAR for the lack of black people involved.

Link Posted: 4/7/2006 9:15:38 AM EDT
Yes, this type of thing reaks of social psychologist wannabes looking to burn a group they have already stereotyped. This type of journalism does fall under the investigative branch, but it is sketchy. If the stooges acted just like any other NASCAR fan (except for looking a certain way), then there really is no entrapment. I'm sure they thought they would get good footage.

But they didn't and Nascar fans should be proud. The truth will set NBC free.

Now the real test of whether NBC news has any integrity in this process is for them to broadcast these reasults. Or will the segment be scrapped because of "non-news" results? we shall see
Link Posted: 4/7/2006 9:16:29 AM EDT
You would hope the Nascar media folks are taking the NBC sports folks out back of pit row and 'splaining a few things, with the liberal use of a large wrench....
Link Posted: 4/7/2006 9:17:29 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Napoleon_Tanerite:

Originally Posted By warlord:
I'm shocked and surprised that the news media is up to such sheninigans



i think the only people suprised are the liberals who were proven wrong (again)


Actually, I say this in a rather condescending manner, as a long-time reader on this board we all know all of this stuff is BS, witness the Dan Blather debacle. Many people believe the news media is beyond reproach, but they can switch gears instantly from reporting the news to making the news.
Link Posted: 4/7/2006 9:18:11 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Goonboss:
THEY KILLT DALE!



Yea, but did they also kill KENNY??
Link Posted: 4/7/2006 9:30:27 AM EDT
I've been a NASCAR fan as long as I can remember, I live not to far from the Allison's, and Neil Bonnet,( used to live) and used to see them in local resturants often. I don't like the new uppity nascar, but I don't like racist rednecks either. I go to both Talladega races almost every year, there are generally free tickets around, if you look. Now there are plenty of black families there, and other minorities, and I have never witnessed any racist act by anyone, most people welcome them with open arms, and figure if they are at the races, they can't be all bad. Also it was said before, why in the hell would NBC want to give NASCAR a bad image, when they spend a fortune to have the tv rights?
Link Posted: 4/7/2006 9:56:48 AM EDT
Someone needs to "plant" a "one of these things is not like the others" at NBC. Someone with excellent credentials (and lots and lots of patience) somehow gets a job reporting at NBC and starts hidden camera filming reactions to conservative, pro-2nd views. Show them making the news up. The only snag is someone would probably have to pretend to be a gay, transvestite wiccan who volunteers for PETA or ELF in their spare time in order to have the right stuff to get the job.
Link Posted: 4/7/2006 10:32:04 AM EDT
Would NBC like to send my white ass into Compton or Harlem to "investigate" whether racism in America still exists?
Link Posted: 4/7/2006 10:36:42 AM EDT
NBC creating news? Who would'a thunk it?

Those libs seriously believed that there would be problems, because they're convinced that anyone that attends a NASCAR race is a biggot. Those jackasses think anoyone not in line with their agenda is filled with hate. They are the ones filled with hate, hatred for white people, hatred for America. The mainstream news IS the enemy.

They have been trying, for decades, to tear this country apart and rebuild it into some bullshit socialist utopia. CBS manufactured that whole Dan Blather "Florida National Guard memo" and then tried to pass it off as news. Don't tell me that Dan did this on his own, they had announced plans to run that trash three days before the election. But the brass bumped it earlier far tactical reasons(swift boat vets). THE MSM IS THE ENEMY.

They will hide or downplay news favorable to America, they will trumpet every American failure or weakness. Anyone know what the curent unemployment rate is? HMM? 4.7%, lowest in six years. Why haven't they announced that on the front page of the papers? If it was the highest in six years we would hear nothing but stories about runaway unemployment.

Back to the NASCAR news manufacuring. I wonder of the would place say, a Korean shopkeeper, in the NAACP conference to see if there was racism there? Or maybe a Jew at a Nation of Islam conference. I bet they would get some "news" there.

Let me sum up my thoughts. THE MAINSTREAM NEWS MEDIA HATES AMERICA AND IS THE ENEMY.

thank you for you time.
Link Posted: 4/7/2006 11:21:56 AM EDT
What do you expect from a network that puts Couric in the news anchor slot. What is more disturbing is the number of people who like her.
Link Posted: 4/7/2006 11:26:53 AM EDT
8

That is all.
Link Posted: 4/7/2006 11:53:05 AM EDT
3 out of 4 fans responding to a poll don't think there's anything wrong with Toyota racing in NASCAR. Hardly sounds like bigotry.

Are the ratings on Dateline going into the shitter that fast that they have to make stuff up.

BTW just how do you tell a muslim NASCAR fan from a regualr NASCAR fan? Are they wearing a #8 on their burkha or keffiyah? Which driver are they cheering for ...? hope it's not Jeff....

I'll bet if they waltzed some muslim reporters and tv production people into NBC it would be easy to to the same thing. You could bet the attention of everyone would be on them....
Link Posted: 4/7/2006 1:31:54 PM EDT
.
Link Posted: 4/7/2006 1:56:11 PM EDT
I guess exploding trucks no longer work. Wouldn't it be fun if the race announcer goes on the PA and says "It's our understanding that NBC has planted Arab-looking people here to see if we are a bunch of racist yahoos. If you see anyone Arab looking, please give them a hug"
Link Posted: 4/7/2006 2:02:35 PM EDT
Working class conservative white people are one of the few groups in this country that it's cool to pick on.

Others being the usual suspects: politicians, etc.
Link Posted: 4/7/2006 2:05:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/7/2006 2:06:43 PM EDT by Belloc]

Originally Posted By Javak:
I guess exploding trucks no longer work. Wouldn't it be fun if the race announcer goes on the PA and says "It's our understanding that NBC has planted Arab-looking people here to see if we are a bunch of racist yahoos. If you see anyone Arab looking, please give them a hug"



+1
"Hey, look what happens when we fill up a gas tank on a truck so it is actually overflowing with gas and leave the gas cap off, put a model rocket engine in it, crash another truck into it, and ignite the rocket engine in the gas tank at the same time! Fire! Gee golly."
Link Posted: 4/8/2006 3:03:45 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ZitiForBreakfast:
News reporters trying to make news instead of reporting the news.

NASCAR has paid Jesse Jackson close to 1 Million to keep his mouth shut and not go after NASCAR for the lack of black people involved.





NASCAR has been paying for three years now.
Extortion. Thats all it is. Jesse don't give a f*ck
about no blacks in racing. Just another opportunity to shake down whitey.
Link Posted: 4/8/2006 3:20:57 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Pangea:
Knob Creek.




damn they out of targets??
Link Posted: 4/8/2006 3:53:29 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Lon_Moer:
NBC is just pissed at NASCAR because they lost the broadcast rights.



THIS is probably the closest to the truth.
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