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Posted: 4/5/2006 4:13:29 PM EDT
Bastards! They are now charging extra for exit row seats and aisle seats. I understand they are desirable but it makes getting seats online a royal pain in the ass. The fuckers want $15 extra. I am going to request extra peanuts and pop to make up that $15!
Link Posted: 4/5/2006 4:20:48 PM EDT
They have an airline?



Link Posted: 4/5/2006 5:14:21 PM EDT


Northworst Airlines.

So you pull up their seat configuration online and you get seats with dollar signs on them. The only way you can get them is to pony up $15 more.

First come first serve sounds more equitable to me.
Link Posted: 4/5/2006 5:16:56 PM EDT
If there's a buck to be made they'll find a way.
Link Posted: 4/5/2006 5:19:50 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ARDOC:


Northworst Airlines.

So you pull up their seat configuration online and you get seats with dollar signs on them. The only way you can get them is to pony up $15 more.

First come first serve sounds more equitable to me.



$15 WHOLE dollars, eh?
Link Posted: 4/5/2006 5:20:46 PM EDT
It's funny because as I clicked on this thread, Winamp was loading and popped up a window that said "New Winamp Available."
Link Posted: 4/5/2006 5:22:05 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MMcCall:

Originally Posted By ARDOC:


Northworst Airlines.

So you pull up their seat configuration online and you get seats with dollar signs on them. The only way you can get them is to pony up $15 more.

First come first serve sounds more equitable to me.



$15 WHOLE dollars, eh?



Its not the money its the principle of the thing.
Link Posted: 4/5/2006 5:24:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/5/2006 5:25:14 PM EDT by MMcCall]

Originally Posted By ARDOC:

Originally Posted By MMcCall:

Originally Posted By ARDOC:


Northworst Airlines.

So you pull up their seat configuration online and you get seats with dollar signs on them. The only way you can get them is to pony up $15 more.

First come first serve sounds more equitable to me.



$15 WHOLE dollars, eh?



Its not the money its the principle of the thing.



What principle would that be? Recognizing and exploiting a premium service for maximum profit? No different that charging more for First Class.

You're a cool guy Doc, and normally I'm right there with you on stuff, but this rant is weak sauce
Link Posted: 4/5/2006 5:26:42 PM EDT
What bullshit. They should discount the crappy middle seat then.
Link Posted: 4/5/2006 5:30:12 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MMcCall:

Originally Posted By ARDOC:

Originally Posted By MMcCall:

Originally Posted By ARDOC:


Northworst Airlines.

So you pull up their seat configuration online and you get seats with dollar signs on them. The only way you can get them is to pony up $15 more.

First come first serve sounds more equitable to me.



$15 WHOLE dollars, eh?



Its not the money its the principle of the thing.



What principle would that be? Recognizing and exploiting a premium service for maximum profit? No different that charging more for First Class.

You're a cool guy Doc, and normally I'm right there with you on stuff, but this rant is weak sauce





This no rant, more bitching like a little girl. I am tired God damn it!

Cozumel in the am. Only thing making me hang on.
Link Posted: 4/5/2006 5:30:45 PM EDT

Originally Posted By twonami:
What bullshit. They should discount the crappy middle seat then.



Whoa! Now thats an idea. No one wants the crappy middle seat anyway.
Link Posted: 4/5/2006 5:35:09 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ARDOC:

Originally Posted By twonami:
What bullshit. They should discount the crappy middle seat then.



Whoa! Now thats an idea. No one wants the crappy middle seat anyway.



They should start selling tokins for the head.
Link Posted: 4/5/2006 5:35:23 PM EDT
I've told people for years NWA is the crappiest airline ever.

This will become industry standard within a couple of weeks now.

DAMNIT!

I hate middle seats.

Oh well....

More reason to drive to Austin to take Southwest.

They are the only airline that might resist this
becasue of thier open seating policy.

Link Posted: 4/5/2006 5:42:54 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ARDOC:
Bastards! They are now charging extra for exit row seats and aisle seats. I understand they are desirable but it makes getting seats online a royal pain in the ass. The fuckers want $15 extra. I am going to request extra peanuts and pop to make up that $15!



Doc, just tell them you will volunteer for the extra responsibility at a cost of $15.

Link Posted: 4/5/2006 5:55:07 PM EDT
They should discount for:

1. Delays
2. Lost Luggage
3. Rude Flight Attendants
4. Sitting a fatass next to you who protudes into your seat

I could go on and on...
Link Posted: 4/5/2006 6:02:43 PM EDT
And People wonder why I drive allover the Midwest.
I can drive to most locations within 4-6 that I need to go to. If I fly it takes 8 hours after all the Bs. A plus is I can take whatever I want with me.
The last time I flew I got bumped, I got hung up on a job site and did not fly for a year. All the "goodies" I got for being bumped were cancelled, even though I flew 40,000 miles the year I got bumped. Fuck the Airlines, they have done more to Piss off the business traveler.
I can got to the local car rental office and spend $1200 and drive almost whatever I want for a month, and they want my business. I ask for a Mid-size I get upgraded to a full size at NC.
The time I don't waste in a airport/airplane I have been able to stop in some cool places.
The Mom/Pop gun shops in rural areas are my favorite. I meet some good people, I get some good deals sometimes. I have had homecooked meals, while talking guns and the current state of affairs in the US.
Flyover country is drive through for me and I love what I learn on each trip.
Link Posted: 4/5/2006 6:17:02 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Captain_Picard:

Originally Posted By ARDOC:

Originally Posted By twonami:
What bullshit. They should discount the crappy middle seat then.



Whoa! Now thats an idea. No one wants the crappy middle seat anyway.



They should start selling tokins for the head.

Never mention that again! NEVER.
When you gotta go, you gotta go, and you know how long it takes them to find change for a $20...

Kharn
Link Posted: 4/5/2006 6:48:55 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ARDOC:
Bastards! They are now charging extra for exit row seats and aisle seats. I understand they are desirable but it makes getting seats online a royal pain in the ass. The fuckers want $15 extra. I am going to request extra peanuts and pop to make up that $15!



Uhhhh, my ex-boss just flew up here on NWA Monday. He said they were charging $1 for a bag of peanuts and $3.50 if you want another 5¢ worth of misc. kibble. Looks like they get the last laugh after all.
Link Posted: 4/5/2006 8:48:06 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Kharn:

Originally Posted By Captain_Picard:

Originally Posted By ARDOC:

Originally Posted By twonami:
What bullshit. They should discount the crappy middle seat then.



Whoa! Now thats an idea. No one wants the crappy middle seat anyway.



They should start selling tokins for the head.

Never mention that again! NEVER.
When you gotta go, you gotta go, and you know how long it takes them to find change for a $20...

Kharn


I'll just piss in the barf bag
Link Posted: 4/5/2006 8:50:32 PM EDT
so when do they start charging extra for the fat fucks that take up 2 seats, or offering people a discount when some fat fuck flabalanches into your seat?
Link Posted: 4/5/2006 8:53:48 PM EDT

Originally Posted By twonami:

Originally Posted By Kharn:

Originally Posted By Captain_Picard:

Originally Posted By ARDOC:

Originally Posted By twonami:
What bullshit. They should discount the crappy middle seat then.



Whoa! Now thats an idea. No one wants the crappy middle seat anyway.



They should start selling tokins for the head.

Never mention that again! NEVER.
When you gotta go, you gotta go, and you know how long it takes them to find change for a $20...

Kharn


I'll just piss in the barf bag



What if you have to shit?
Link Posted: 4/5/2006 8:55:27 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Napoleon_Tanerite:
so when do they start charging extra for the fat fucks that take up 2 seats, or offering people a discount when some fat fuck flabalanches into your seat?


they do charge extra if they are fat enough
Link Posted: 4/5/2006 8:56:03 PM EDT

Originally Posted By CZ75_9MM:

Originally Posted By twonami:

Originally Posted By Kharn:

Originally Posted By Captain_Picard:

Originally Posted By ARDOC:

Originally Posted By twonami:
What bullshit. They should discount the crappy middle seat then.



Whoa! Now thats an idea. No one wants the crappy middle seat anyway.



They should start selling tokins for the head.

Never mention that again! NEVER.
When you gotta go, you gotta go, and you know how long it takes them to find change for a $20...

Kharn


I'll just piss in the barf bag



What if you have to shit?


spread the bag open
Link Posted: 4/5/2006 8:58:43 PM EDT
How much do they charge to keep guys wearing tablecloths on their heads off the plane?
Link Posted: 4/5/2006 9:03:37 PM EDT
Shitty service, shitty prices coupled with the loss of your rights makes me love driving. And I can take my nail clippers with me....and no one gives my gramma a full body cavity search while Habib walks on by.
Piss on the airlines, just cattle cars in the sky.
Link Posted: 4/5/2006 9:29:25 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Goonboss:
I've told people for years NWA is the crappiest airline ever.

This will become industry standard within a couple of weeks now.

DAMNIT!

I hate middle seats.

Oh well....

More reason to drive to Austin to take Southwest.

They are the only airline that might resist this
becasue of thier open seating policy.




I agree. NWA sucks. Rode them one time and will avoid them at every oppurtunity in the future.
Link Posted: 4/5/2006 9:43:29 PM EDT
I liked it better when poor people couldn't fly.
Link Posted: 4/5/2006 10:08:13 PM EDT

Originally Posted By otto-nyc:
I liked it better when poor people couldn't fly.


+1
Link Posted: 4/5/2006 10:15:28 PM EDT
Northwest is a business.
The purpose of a business is to maximize profit.
They make these profits by charging for services.
Capitalism is a beautiful thing, if you don't like it fly with someone else.
Link Posted: 4/5/2006 10:25:58 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ARDOC:
Bastards! They are now charging extra for exit row seats and aisle seats. I understand they are desirable but it makes getting seats online a royal pain in the ass. The fuckers want $15 extra. I am going to request extra peanuts and pop to make up that $15!



Hmmm, KLM and NWA are part of the SkyTeam alliance. Wonder if KLM is doing it to. $15 is a small price to pay I think since all the alcohol on the flights from Dubai-Amsterdam-Houston is free!
Link Posted: 4/5/2006 10:26:48 PM EDT

Originally Posted By txgp17:
Northwest is a business.
The purpose of a business is to maximize profit.
They make these profits by charging for services.
Capitalism is a beautiful thing, if you don't like it fly with someone else.



No shit Sherlock.
Link Posted: 4/5/2006 10:31:26 PM EDT

Originally Posted By txgp17:
Northwest is a business.
The purpose of a business is to maximize profit.
They make these profits by charging for services.
Capitalism is a beautiful thing, if you don't like it fly with someone else.



As a business they do a fine job of feeding at the public trough along with the other major airlines....
Link Posted: 4/5/2006 10:40:27 PM EDT
N.W.A. - I arrested two of those A$$holes while working on LAPD in Watts.
Link Posted: 4/5/2006 10:42:24 PM EDT

Originally Posted By PromptCritical:
They have an airline?

www.dustygroove.com/images/products/n/nwa~~~~~~~~_straighto_101b.jpg




First thing I thought of...
Link Posted: 4/5/2006 10:42:59 PM EDT
I guess I can't really blame them, seeing how much financial trouble they are in.

In fact, IIRC, there's only been like one major airline in the past couple decades that's actually made money....
Link Posted: 4/5/2006 10:43:11 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ARDOC:
No shit Sherlock.

You admit to knowing the logical explanation to your own rant. Nice.
Link Posted: 4/5/2006 10:46:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/5/2006 10:48:55 PM EDT by pv74]

Originally Posted By Goonboss:
I've told people for years NWA is the crappiest airline ever.

This will become industry standard within a couple of weeks now.

DAMNIT!

I hate middle seats.

Oh well....

More reason to drive to Austin to take Southwest.

They are the only airline that might resist this
becasue of thier open seating policy.





I like the window seat anyway...

Anyhow...flew Northwest from Incheon... on a scAirbus...
Liked the free on demand movie consoles in the headrests...
In-flight duty free shop!
Service was excellent


As a rule domestic flights and U.S. airports suck ass..

Rude, unkempt, and unprofessional employees...
Persecution of smokers...
I swear, they go out of their way to make you uncomfortable.


Incheon Airport in Korea was first class....

Employees dressed in classy uniforms...very courteous and professional...
Multiple smoking rooms with lighters provided. Ashtrays kept clean and tidy...
Whistle clean bathrooms...
Security screening was thourough, but personell were courteous...
Check in was a breeze... "skycap" immediately assisted me with my bags..
Good Lord it was what flying should be like...

Stopped at Narrita in Tokyo...it was the same way... courteous employees...
Clean smoking rooms and bathrooms...

Get to Seattle....
Had to "walk a mile for a cammel.."
Employees had an unkempt apearance...
300 lb woman working at the Burger King
Security personnel looking at me like I am Osama Bin Laden...
O'hare was much worse than Seattle though...
Wasn't the worst doemstic flying experince I have had...
But I noticed the difference very quickly..
Welcome to the good 'ol USA..home of shitty service
Link Posted: 4/5/2006 10:49:22 PM EDT

Originally Posted By txgp17:

Originally Posted By ARDOC:
No shit Sherlock.

You admit to knowing the logical explanation to your own rant. Nice.



Obviously everyone else understood that I was merely informing and not really complaining, hardly a rant. But I suppose subtle things like this is beyond your understanding.
Link Posted: 4/6/2006 5:34:28 AM EDT
I love how Northworst will board everyone, close the door, pull away from the gate and THEN announce they're on a ground hold, rather than letting everyone stay in the terminal.

Kharn
Link Posted: 4/6/2006 5:37:15 AM EDT
ARDOC,

Being from the area, you know the red tails are the worse airline going.

Spirit is good to go out of DTW and SWA. I would like to see JetBlue get some routes out of DTW.



Link Posted: 4/6/2006 5:38:08 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Kharn:
I love how Northworst will board everyone, close the door, pull away from the gate and THEN announce they're on a ground hold, rather than letting everyone stay in the terminal.

Kharn



Uh, if the ground hold is in effect, they can't push back.

Link Posted: 4/6/2006 6:28:07 AM EDT
Don't worry, Northworst will be out of business soon.
Link Posted: 4/6/2006 6:42:26 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/6/2006 6:42:45 AM EDT by txgp17]

Originally Posted By ARDOC:
Obviously everyone else understood that I was merely informing and not really complaining, hardly a rant. But I suppose subtle things like this is beyond your understanding.

You're not really complaining huh? When you ask for more peanuts and pop don't forget to ask for some cheese to go with your whine.

Originally Posted By ARDOC:
Bastards! They are now charging extra for exit row seats and aisle seats. I understand they are desirable but it makes getting seats online a royal pain in the ass. The fuckers want $15 extra. I am going to request extra peanuts and pop to make up that $15!

Link Posted: 4/6/2006 7:08:22 AM EDT

Originally Posted By SteyrAUG:

Originally Posted By PromptCritical:
They have an airline?

www.dustygroove.com/images/products/n/nwa~~~~~~~~_straighto_101b.jpg




First thing I thought of...



I gotta admit- me too.

Link Posted: 4/6/2006 7:40:20 AM EDT

Originally Posted By SPECTRE:
Shitty service, shitty prices coupled with the loss of your rights makes me love driving.


Good luck getting from Boston to LA via car. Three days of driving vs. six hours.

Sometimes, flights are worth it.

I don't understand why people fly to destinations less than 300 miles away, tho.
Link Posted: 4/6/2006 8:33:18 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ZitiForBreakfast:

Originally Posted By Kharn:
I love how Northworst will board everyone, close the door, pull away from the gate and THEN announce they're on a ground hold, rather than letting everyone stay in the terminal.

Kharn



Uh, if the ground hold is in effect, they can't push back.




But if they are pushed back, then they get to count the flight as an on time departure from the gate.

I have to agree with the comments on this thread... I think it is kinda crappy that they are charging for the exit row. I don't like it, but where I live, and given the amount of miles I have, there is little choice but to tolerate NWA.

That is one of the downsides of the Hub system. You kinda get stuck with a major carrier.
Link Posted: 4/6/2006 8:43:20 AM EDT

Originally Posted By TravisM1:
How much do they charge to keep guys wearing tablecloths on their heads off the plane?



+1

I got to sit next to 'Abdul' on a non-stop flight from Atlanta to Barcelona

It smelled like he had not bathed for weeks...
Link Posted: 4/6/2006 8:44:54 AM EDT
Southwest for teh win.
Link Posted: 4/6/2006 8:49:38 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/6/2006 8:55:14 AM EDT by BillofRights]
I feel your pain everytime I take a toll road ( I hate them and the elitists that promote them.)

But thinking about it logically, you should be happy about the program, because it free's up the good seats for Dr.'s and other people of means. You can enjoy sitting with the unwashed masses, from the lofty perch of your elite exit row seat.

Another thing to keep in mind is that the airlines are charging less for tickets today than they did 15 years ago. Can you say that about any part of the Medical industry?

NWA is in a death struggle. They are in a race to the bottom with UAL, and DAL. Sooner or later, one of them will go Tango Uniform, and the survivers will be able to right themselves.



You don't have to tell us. ( I don't want to know ) but ask yourself : How much labor do you put in to earn $15.00 Timewise. I think you will find it is literally not worth getting exited about.
Link Posted: 4/6/2006 8:53:45 AM EDT

Originally Posted By BillofRights:
I feel your pain everytime I take a toll road ( I hate them and the elitists that promote them.)

But thinking about it logically, you should be happy about the program, because it free's up the good seats for Dr.'s and other people of means. You can enjoy sitting with the unwashed masses, from the lofty perch of your elite exit row seat.

Another thing to keep in mind is that the airlines are charging less for tickets today than they did 15 years ago. Can you say that about any part of the Medical industry?

NWA is in a death struggle. They are in a race to the bottom with UAL, and DAL. Sooner or later, one of them will go Tango Uniform, and the survivers will be able to right themselves.



How do you go Tango Uniform when the guv't will bail your ass out?
Link Posted: 4/6/2006 9:01:01 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Another_Dude:

Originally Posted By BillofRights:
I feel your pain everytime I take a toll road ( I hate them and the elitists that promote them.)

But thinking about it logically, you should be happy about the program, because it free's up the good seats for Dr.'s and other people of means. You can enjoy sitting with the unwashed masses, from the lofty perch of your elite exit row seat.

Another thing to keep in mind is that the airlines are charging less for tickets today than they did 15 years ago. Can you say that about any part of the Medical industry?

NWA is in a death struggle. They are in a race to the bottom with UAL, and DAL. Sooner or later, one of them will go Tango Uniform, and the survivers will be able to right themselves.



How do you go Tango Uniform when the guv't will bail your ass out?



Uhh, Ask the good folks at Panam, Eastern, TWA. They will tell you.

The Gov. slowed down the process with the 9-11 loans, but you have only to wait, watch and learn. Capitalism is a powerful thing.

Actually, rather than a classic TU, we are more likely to see mergers, with large reduction in capacity.
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