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Looks awfully familiar. My son just got back from Kunsan and is at Shaw now.
2 questions - Were you there for the great vending machine robbery and field day? That was the weekend after he left How did you like the snow this winter? I got the impression from my son that if he never sees another snow flake it will be just fine with him. |
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Thats part of the culture. There is nothing worse in the eyes of a Korean then a disloyal friend. For a friend you do anything. Loyalty and friendship are highly valued. I think once Americans realize this, they would understand why Korean love Americans. They would not be there without them. |
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You can always catch an ex-military guy that had done a tour in Korea. When we would go to the Korean resturant, there will always be some dudes there sitting alone or with a buddy. I chuckle because you can see the waitress get kind of startled when he starts ordering in Korean and its a white guy or black guy. But kimchee as many hate it, there are others that get a taste for it and love it.
But anyway, thank you guys that have served there. I know both sets of my grandparents were appreciative of American GIs. |
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I love how you pointed out the trees being cut down for fire. I love being tought that in college, but seeing it is great. Hope all the commie libtards see how well that form of govt works.
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Yep, just like you said it's just a very small minority of the people there that don't want us there and of course they get a lot of attention from the press. |
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You should be shoving a huge sandwich into your mouth while looking at them and taking pics. Get halfway done and then throw the thing in the trash. Take pics of their facial expressions while doing that.
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None. I'm not good at picking up different langauges and most Koreans speak some English. |
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I studied Korean in Korea for three years while stationed there as a Military Police Investigator. It was one of the deciding factors in getting hired on LAPD. Guess who was called every time they needed an interpreter? The most annoying thing was when we had to learn 108hrs of Spanish in the academy. The instructor would ALWAYS ask me how do you say that in Korean. Needless to say Spanish turned out to be a pain to learn.
As far a kimchi goes, it rocks. Cabbage kimchi, cucumber kimchi, etc., |
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I'm not so convinced by the 'cut down for fire' argument. I'd lean far more in favour of the argument of 'cut down to remove any concealment for attacking Imperialist forces.' There are plenty of trees further north from the DMZ for the People to cut down without any risk of them wandering South of the border. If they burned them later, it was likely incidental.
Freedom Bridge and BONR are different bridges? I can't recall now... Been about ten years since I visited the JSA. Doesn't seem to have changed much. Did you check out any of the tunnels when you were up there? NTM |
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Freedom Bridge and the Bridge of No Return are two different bridges. I've toured three of the tunnels under the DMZ.
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I've never been to Korea but I've met a lot of Koreans...class acts every one.
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Over Kim Jong Il's dead body.... Untill the norks are ready to say 'We were wrong, communisim doesn't work', it won't happen... Considering that S Korea is quite the economic powerhouse by regional standards, and N Korea has to cut down the trees in the DMZ area for construction/fuel, the South isn't going to give up what they have, and the North won't admit that communisim sucks... Oh yeah, the 'propaganda villages' are kind of amusing - let's build our best demonstration of life in N Korea, but not move anyone in -untill the S Koreans put up some kind of an observation point, then we move people there... Oh yeah, the villages look pretty bad compared to S Korea, but it makes us feel good.... So the stalemate continues... I've seen the DMZ from 'Unification Observatory' (built by the S Korean government for families separated by the war), and will probably go on the actual DMZ tour sometime before I come home... - Dave, from Camp Humphreys, ROK... |
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South Korea is an AMAZING country.....
I was there from Aug 85 to Aug 87.....Saw tremendous change, some good, some bad. I was a helicopter pilot, and was lucky enough to get to see pretty much the whole country. Once you got outside of Seoul, the people were VERY friendly, even if they couldn't speak too much english. I was lucky enough to even land at the helipad that's INSIDE the DMZ......That was pretty intense. Did get to go into Tunnel # 3. I've heard they've found at least a 4th. #3 was pretty impressive. I do like SOME Korean food....I AM the lone white guy in the Korean Restraurant..... I DO hope the South comes out on top..... |
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Also a "been there, done that." Served w/ 1-38 INF in 1985, was on the "Z" for 3 months from Sept. - Nov. of 85. Crazy stuff that happened was the ROK hauling a North Korean spy boat up to Panmunjon (sorry for the spelling) to show them they had captured one. I was @ GP Collier. Loved watching the NK troops on thermals come up to the border and turn back and watching them "guarding" the farmers in the North. On Oulette, an LT w/Charlie blew a claymore by accident when testing the wires (forget the tester) and that caused a bit of a stir. That an when GSR (Ground Survellience Radar) reported Frogmen near some small pond, but turned out to be just ducks! Lots of shooting in the ROK sectors but quiet where we were at. I fell in an old "spider hole" from long ago. Oh and the weird way you'd be on patrol listening to rock-n-roll music that the ROK posts blared over their speakers to counter the drone of NK propoganda from their side. Crazy days... but not as crazy as Iraq 20 years later! I'm getting too old for this sh*t.
F.A.S. Out |
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Radish kimchi was the best of the best washed down with OB |
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I was there last June. I'm surprised that you were able to get that first picture. The ROK guards wouldn't let any of us take pictures unless we were about 20 feet back behind a line and you couldn't really see anything over the wall and the pay-binoculars from there.
And unlike many "guards" the ROK guys don't mess around. It's not a suggestion that you take pictures back behind the line. Some guy tried to take a picture right up at the wall and some ROK soldier got in his face. I thought he was going to take his camera away. |
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Well, I flipped more than few birds at them. Cucumber and radish kimchi rocked with OB! My roomate and I wandered around Seoul one day (the only time I went there, other than going and coming). The natives were extremely nice to us, even the confused ROK Captain who quizzed us about our ROK Ranger badges we had on our hats. He warmed up when he was satisfied that we had earned them. Up north where we were they were all very nice-offering us water, smiling, giving us rides (never ride in the back of a flatbed with a drunk Korean madman at the wheel. It's not worth it!). It was my understanding that the Japanese had stripped Korea, using the trees to support their WWII effort. We saw very few really old trees in the ROK. And making ondol accounts for a lot of trees, too. Retiring the colors with about 50 NKPA troops watching through binos.... Camp Hovey on patrol in the "Z" |
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Cool pics. I read something online written by an American prof in South Korea who managed to get a visit to the North. It's wild. Apparently you can be an unknown teacher from the US and still get the full diplomatic tour just like somebody important. Full 9 yards of propaganda and tours. Apparently they have a whole musuem full of "gifts" to the Kim's and NK citizens can go and see. The gifts are things like TV and stereo sets, a car, coffee mugs, etc. Really random crap. One of the tour guys asked the prof if he had ever seen a car like the one that had been given to Kim and he said "Yeah, my neighbor owns one" and the guide accused him of lying.
Anyway, my grandfather was there from 50 to 53 with the 1st Marines. If any of you have relatives who were also there and were at Inchon in any capaciety shoot me an email or something. I'm working on a thesis/book. |
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Here is the link to the blog. Extememly enlightening and interesting. Worth a read. www.1stopkorea.com/index.htm?nk-trip6-dmz.htm~mainframe |
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So, when are we sending the Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders to perform on the border for propaganda purposes?
"Hey North Korean sordier, you rikey rikey?" |
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Apparently some mastermind busted the front out of a day room geedunk (candy) vending machine and apparently it got cleaned out by the rest of the troops. Apparently it was not appreciated by the powers that be, last of a series of incidents and the whole squadron or all the billeting residents got to have a formation at like 0730 on a Saturday morning and spent the whole day field daying the billeting area. He was about 4 days out on his way home in leave when it happened. So he got the gory details by e-mail.
We tried to get him to go with us to a Korean BBQ place not far from our house and he more or less said he never wants to see any kind of pickled vegetable again. |
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I was lucky enough to protect/escort the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders twice in country. Toughest duty I ever had.
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They visited us Christmas of 88. It was the first round eyed woman I had seen in some time. We came in to the chow hall off patrol, cammied up, LBE & weapons..the works. They still cave us a kiss on the cheek. |
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awesome pix.
Does Google Earth show the names of these places? I haven't loaded it yet, but would be neat to see the "map" visually... |
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Nice pics. That is only the second time I have seen the poor guys that have to stand like that for hours.
Pres Truman should have let McArthur loose. He really should have. |
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Picture of myself around 20 years ago, taken on Radar Site 6, which was located inside the southern boundary of the DMZ. I was a Ground Surveillance Radar Operator (GSR), our company was located at Camp Hovey, but I spent most of my time over there on the Radar Site. I had some good times while in Korea, especially down in TDC.
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interesting. post more details if you're willing... |
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tag. Very interesting pics.
Thanks, I probably would never get to see those things. Thanks for your service. |
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My father was there from about 7/52 to 7/53 with Army artillary. Would have to look up his batallion, but some of his work was in support of 1st Marines I believe. He was a forward observer in the last few months of his tour. Some of you would love the pics from that time period. M1 Garands, M1 Carbines, sandbag and timber bunkers, gasoline stoves, etc. I am pretty sure that my father hated the place. Wish he was still around to discuss it with me. dvo |
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Been there, done that too!!.
JSA "In Front of them All" 3rd Platoon Renegade Bastards Badge Number 335 PanMunJom, Korea 1991-1992. I learned more about small unit tactics, SRT/HRT, munitions, and infantry weapons than you can shake a stick at. Looking back, I loved every minute of it. Back then, I just wanted to get the F**K out of there. We took over Oullette from the 2nd ID in late 1991 too. Worked 9 on, 3 off, and had a "Freedom Pass" that let us go anywhere in South Korea we wanted to courtesy of the 8th Army and United Nations. All we had to do is stay out of trouble (mostly) and make it back on 1600 the third day off for a recall formation. Good times. |
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Local PBS station had a show on about NK last night, ironically enough. Sad place.
I still laugh at Kim Jong Il in "Team America", though. the guy does look like a marionette. |
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I must say this is one of the best threads I've seen in a while. Great pics also.
I know this is a dumb question, but is there the occasional pot shot taken by either the North or the South or is that just crap you hear on TV? It seems to me something like that could trigger an all-out war. |
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+1. One time I was at Lea's restaurant in Leonard TX. There was an old man with Korean War Vet baseball hat on. He was alone dining. I had privelege of dining with him and paying for his supper. I thanked him for his service and his time in my native land. Those who served in Korea are getting quite old. They won't be around much longer. |
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Ha ha. That's pretty funny. My dad is 5-3 and mom is 4-10. I am 5-8. I did not come to the states until when I was 13. I think I could've been taller if I came earlier. Milk does body good! |
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Well, every once in a while something may happen, but usually it is a big game of catch-me-if-you-can or hide and go seek with guns in the Z. |
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They get in to more shoot-em-up's at sea. The NKs try to insert saboteur or espionage teams by small craft and both sides take incursions by "fishing" boats very seriously. |
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The picture was taken from behind the line. |
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