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Posted: 4/3/2006 10:38:55 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/3/2006 10:39:28 AM EDT by ctprelude]
Name some revolutions throughout history that have been successful other than the U.S.

ETA: Also by successful I mean that the country was better off after the revolution.
Link Posted: 4/3/2006 10:41:07 AM EDT
Industrial revolution?
Link Posted: 4/3/2006 10:41:59 AM EDT
Might want to define "successful".

Link Posted: 4/3/2006 10:42:51 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/3/2006 10:43:20 AM EDT by SS109]
French Revolution!
It just took about 40 years for things to get better.

The English Revolution made started off better.

The Cuban Revolution! (Just kidding.)

A lot of Latin America had good revolutions throwing off their Spanish oppressors.
Link Posted: 4/3/2006 10:48:09 AM EDT
Our American Revolution!!
Link Posted: 4/3/2006 10:50:16 AM EDT
Revolution Number Nine.
Link Posted: 4/3/2006 11:10:58 AM EDT

The earth, every twenty four hours, revolves successfully.
Link Posted: 4/3/2006 11:14:33 AM EDT
The "counterculture" revolution.
Link Posted: 4/3/2006 11:16:01 AM EDT
Not The Matrix Revolutions.
Link Posted: 4/3/2006 11:16:56 AM EDT
Battle of Bannockburn in 1314 (I think) When Robert the Bruce battled for Scotland's freedom against the English..
Scotland enjoyed her freedom until 1745 and then fell back once again under English rule.

I'd say they were due.....

Link Posted: 4/3/2006 11:19:15 AM EDT
1776
Link Posted: 4/3/2006 11:19:38 AM EDT
Dance Dance Revolution
Link Posted: 4/3/2006 11:19:50 AM EDT

Originally Posted By PlaymoreMinds:
Battle of Bannockburn in 1314 (I think) When Robert the Bruce battled for Scotland's freedom against the English..
Scotland enjoyed her freedom until 1745 and then fell back once again under English rule.

I'd say they were due.....




They don't call it the United Kingdom for nothin'.
Link Posted: 4/3/2006 11:30:37 AM EDT

Originally Posted By NimmerMehr:

Originally Posted By PlaymoreMinds:
Battle of Bannockburn in 1314 (I think) When Robert the Bruce battled for Scotland's freedom against the English..
Scotland enjoyed her freedom until 1745 and then fell back once again under English rule.

I'd say they were due.....




They don't call it the United Kingdom for nothin'.




Anarchy in the UK



I am an anti-Christ
I am an anarchist,
don't know what I want
but I know how to get it.
I wanna destroy the passer by
'cos I wanna be anarchy,
Ho dogs body

Anarchy for the UK
It's coming sometime and maybe
I give a wrong time stop a traffic line.
Your future dream is a shopping scheme
cause I wanna be anarchy,
It's in the city

How many ways to get what you want
I use the best I use the rest
I use the enemy.
I use anarchy
'cause I wanna be anarchy,

Its the only way to be

Is this the MPLA
or is this the UDA
or is this the IRA
I thought it was the UK
or just another country
another council tenancy.

I wanna be an anarchist
(oh what a name)
And l wanna be an anarchist
(I get pissed destroy)
Link Posted: 4/3/2006 11:31:59 AM EDT
Is this another one of those who wants a civil war in the US?
Link Posted: 4/3/2006 11:33:46 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/3/2006 11:34:02 AM EDT by PlaymoreMinds]

Originally Posted By NimmerMehr:

Originally Posted By PlaymoreMinds:
Battle of Bannockburn in 1314 (I think) When Robert the Bruce battled for Scotland's freedom against the English..
Scotland enjoyed her freedom until 1745 and then fell back once again under English rule.

I'd say they were due.....




They don't call it the United Kingdom for nothin'.



Trust me: if you mistake an Irishman or a Scotsman for a Briton, they'll be plenty pissed. It's kinda like calling a guy from Texas a New Yorker.

Besides...the only reason they're "united" right now is because after they won, the Brits took all the Scots guns away...

Link Posted: 4/3/2006 11:35:50 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/3/2006 11:38:20 AM EDT by The_Macallan]

Technically, the American Revolution wasn't a "revolution" in that it didn't overthrow and replace an existing gov't. It was a war of colonial independence and separation.



True revolutions are much harder to win and more prone to successive failures & counter-revolutions than wars of independence.



Link Posted: 4/3/2006 11:53:23 AM EDT

Originally Posted By The_Macallan:
Technically, the American Revolution wasn't a "revolution" in that it didn't overthrow and replace an existing gov't. It was a war of colonial independence and separation.



True revolutions are much harder to win and more prone to successive failures & counter-revolutions than wars of independence.






I also believe that if we did have our own revolution/civil war, the rest of the world would be jumping in to help tear this country apart and turn it into a 3rd world shithole.

The rest of the world would love for us to have an internal revolution, they are drooling at the prospect. Plus, a lot of those preaching this crap have never seen combat of any kind.
Link Posted: 4/3/2006 11:57:01 AM EDT
the bolshevik revolution, where they cast out the running dog bourgeoise oppressors of the proletariat masses.

until they became running dog bourgeoise oppressors themselves
Link Posted: 4/3/2006 11:59:26 AM EDT

Originally Posted By LARRYG:

Originally Posted By The_Macallan:
Technically, the American Revolution wasn't a "revolution" in that it didn't overthrow and replace an existing gov't. It was a war of colonial independence and separation.



True revolutions are much harder to win and more prone to successive failures & counter-revolutions than wars of independence.

I also believe that if we did have our own revolution/civil war, the rest of the world would be jumping in to help tear this country apart and turn it into a 3rd world shithole.

The rest of the world would love for us to have an internal revolution, they are drooling at the prospect. Plus, a lot of those preaching this crap have never seen combat of any kind.


I agree with every word you posted here 1,000%.


Link Posted: 4/3/2006 12:01:05 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Glock-Fu:
the bolshevik revolution, where they cast out the running dog bourgeoise oppressors of the proletariat masses.

until they became running dog bourgeoise oppressors themselves



Yeah, that worked out great, didn't it.
Link Posted: 4/3/2006 12:02:17 PM EDT

Originally Posted By LARRYG:

Originally Posted By Glock-Fu:
the bolshevik revolution, where they cast out the running dog bourgeoise oppressors of the proletariat masses.

until they became running dog bourgeoise oppressors themselves



Yeah, that worked out great, didn't it.hacko.gif



apparently fairly obvious humor is lost on some
Link Posted: 4/3/2006 12:07:04 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ctprelude:
Name some revolutions throughout history that have been successful other than the U.S.

ETA: Also by successful I mean that the country was better off after the revolution.



I think you need to rethink your definition of successful.

A successsful revolution is one where the revolutionaries won.
Link Posted: 4/3/2006 1:38:11 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Coop_K:
Dance Dance Revolution


Didn't Prince lead a Revolution? And maybe a New Revolution?
Link Posted: 4/3/2006 3:24:07 PM EDT

Originally Posted By LARRYG:
Is this another one of those who wants a civil war in the US?



No, I need some examples for a paper I have to write.
Link Posted: 4/3/2006 3:26:03 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ODA_564:

Originally Posted By ctprelude:
Name some revolutions throughout history that have been successful other than the U.S.

ETA: Also by successful I mean that the country was better off after the revolution.



I think you need to rethink your definition of successful.

A successsful revolution is one where the revolutionaries won.



I thought it would have been obvious enough that a revolution would only be successful if the revolutionaries won.
Link Posted: 4/3/2006 3:28:21 PM EDT
The sexual revolution?
Link Posted: 4/3/2006 3:32:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/3/2006 3:40:48 PM EDT by HeVGunner]
China- although I don't know if they were better off afterwards or not....not familiar with contemporary China pre-communism.

Cuba was also a successful armed revolution......

Mexico has had several successful revolutions- the French, Spanish, themselves.....etc Actually, as recentlt as 1996 the Chiapas Indians were rebelling, although they were largely given what they had been demanding (self determination, land, mineral rights, etc...), so that could be considered successful.
Link Posted: 4/3/2006 3:38:26 PM EDT
The Vietnamese revolution of 1949 to 1975.
Link Posted: 4/3/2006 3:43:13 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Phil_A_Steen:
The sexual revolution?



My DD-214 says I'm a veteran of the sexual revolution

But seriously, the velvet revolution?
Link Posted: 4/3/2006 3:46:29 PM EDT
Some folks considered Haiti to be a succesful rebellion too.
Really depends on what your definition of "rebellion" or "revolution" is- ie- limited "guerilla" type activity to affect political change (Colombia), "terroristic" activity (IRA/Ireland), country wide civil war etc.....
And successful- as well. There have been quite a few that accomplished their aims, but generally not to establish democratic governments.
Link Posted: 4/3/2006 3:51:57 PM EDT

Originally Posted By HeVGunner:
Some folks considered Haiti to be a succesful rebellion too.
Really depends on what your definition of "rebellion" or "revolution" is- ie- limited "guerilla" type activity to affect political change (Colombia), "terroristic" activity (IRA/Ireland), country wide civil war etc.....
And successful- as well. There have been quite a few that accomplished their aims, but generally not to establish democratic governments.



Ever see a white Haitian? Yeah, I would call that one successful.
Link Posted: 4/3/2006 4:46:54 PM EDT
Iranian Revolution of 1979.... they overthrew their dictator, only to be replaced by another dictator.
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