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Posted: 3/30/2006 2:54:53 PM EDT


Link Posted: 3/30/2006 2:58:21 PM EDT
[#1]
looks like the original mosin-nagants.  the ones made before 1930 had a slightly different stock IIRC.
Link Posted: 3/30/2006 3:12:56 PM EDT
[#2]
Almost look like Arisakas...couldn't be it though there were instances of Japanese soldiers in WWII surrendering their S&W Russian Revolvers...
Link Posted: 3/30/2006 3:14:38 PM EDT
[#3]
They are arisakas. Russia contracted out to the Japs during WW1. I think theyre even 6.5mm. The first Simonov semi auto rifles were in 6.5mm too.
Link Posted: 3/30/2006 3:15:54 PM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
They are arisakas. Russia contracted out to the Japs during WW1. I think theyre even 6.5mm. The first Simonov semi auto rifles were in 6.5mm too.



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Link Posted: 3/30/2006 3:19:02 PM EDT
[#5]
it always amazes me what the hive mind can come up with
Link Posted: 3/30/2006 3:30:54 PM EDT
[#6]
Definatly Arisaka. YOu can tell by looking at the Action. It is a Smooth  dome like cover, The Nagant had a compretely look, also you can tell by the bands. I think i saw it in a recent Gun mag that Russians in the eastern theatre had arisaka issued to them. THis was in WWI when the Japanese were on OUR side!
Link Posted: 3/30/2006 3:31:01 PM EDT
[#7]
www.onwar.com/aced/data/romeo/russojapanese1904.htm

could the rifles be captured Japanese  type 38 Arisakas left over from the Russo - Japanese war of 1904 - 1905?
Link Posted: 3/30/2006 3:45:57 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
They are arisakas. Russia contracted out to the Japs during WW1. I think theyre even 6.5mm. The first Simonov semi auto rifles were in 6.5mm too.



I thought the British were the only ones who contracted the Japanese for Arisaka rifles?  Arisaka rifles (pre - 1943 / 1944) rifles were damn fine weapons.  Strong Mauser action, but cock on closing, ala Lee Enfield.
Link Posted: 3/30/2006 4:15:00 PM EDT
[#9]
Arisakas. The Russians were extremely unprepared for WWI and bought Arisakas from the Japanese. Hell, the Brits even use Japanese Arisakas in some capacity on the Western Front as well.
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