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Posted: 3/30/2006 2:54:53 PM EDT


Link Posted: 3/30/2006 2:58:21 PM EDT
looks like the original mosin-nagants. the ones made before 1930 had a slightly different stock IIRC.
Link Posted: 3/30/2006 3:12:56 PM EDT
Almost look like Arisakas...couldn't be it though there were instances of Japanese soldiers in WWII surrendering their S&W Russian Revolvers...
Link Posted: 3/30/2006 3:14:38 PM EDT
They are arisakas. Russia contracted out to the Japs during WW1. I think theyre even 6.5mm. The first Simonov semi auto rifles were in 6.5mm too.
Link Posted: 3/30/2006 3:15:54 PM EDT

Originally Posted By WindGapAR15:
They are arisakas. Russia contracted out to the Japs during WW1. I think theyre even 6.5mm. The first Simonov semi auto rifles were in 6.5mm too.



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Link Posted: 3/30/2006 3:19:02 PM EDT
it always amazes me what the hive mind can come up with
Link Posted: 3/30/2006 3:30:54 PM EDT
Definatly Arisaka. YOu can tell by looking at the Action. It is a Smooth dome like cover, The Nagant had a compretely look, also you can tell by the bands. I think i saw it in a recent Gun mag that Russians in the eastern theatre had arisaka issued to them. THis was in WWI when the Japanese were on OUR side!
Link Posted: 3/30/2006 3:31:01 PM EDT
www.onwar.com/aced/data/romeo/russojapanese1904.htm

could the rifles be captured Japanese type 38 Arisakas left over from the Russo - Japanese war of 1904 - 1905?
Link Posted: 3/30/2006 3:45:57 PM EDT

Originally Posted By WindGapAR15:
They are arisakas. Russia contracted out to the Japs during WW1. I think theyre even 6.5mm. The first Simonov semi auto rifles were in 6.5mm too.



I thought the British were the only ones who contracted the Japanese for Arisaka rifles? Arisaka rifles (pre - 1943 / 1944) rifles were damn fine weapons. Strong Mauser action, but cock on closing, ala Lee Enfield.
Link Posted: 3/30/2006 4:15:00 PM EDT
Arisakas. The Russians were extremely unprepared for WWI and bought Arisakas from the Japanese. Hell, the Brits even use Japanese Arisakas in some capacity on the Western Front as well.
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