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Posted: 3/29/2006 11:32:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/30/2006 2:10:57 AM EDT by AROptics]
A few Republican turncoats are attempting to pass legislation, with the help of nearly every Democrat, to legalize 12-40 million illegal immigrants. Their legislation would also NOT build a wall to slow the flow of even more illegal immigrants. I cannot influence the turncoats, they are not my Senators or Congressmen. However, the Republicans will be responsible if this passes. The Republicans control both houses and the presidency.

Once 12-40 million Spanish speaking illegal immigrants are given amnesty and bring their families, the vote of a pro-gun, limited government individual will be meaningless to change the course of politics. It seems nearly meaningless now, with the Republicans ignoring the majority of their own base.

It is clear they are "horse trading" to allow those who would suffer most from a pro-amnesty, no-wall vote to avoid political fallout. Afterward, they will "reconcile" the bill, giving their corporate masters what they want under cover of night. Bush will sign amnesty and not build a wall, allowing illegal immigration to create a two-language, two-culture nation. Such nations require a very heavy hand in private affairs to function. Otherwise, they disintegrate after bloodshed.

The Mexican vote in California has already given unchallenged power to Democrats. Gun rights are quickly disappearing. Art Torres, a Latino state legislator stated: "Proposition 187 was the last gasp of white America in California." The same thing will soon happen nationwide.

I will not waste my last meaningful vote. Until a wall is built and the Rule of Law is restored as to immigration, I will not vote for another Republican.

The turncoat Senate Republicans on Amnesty are like Private Pyle in Full Metal Jacket. I cannot seem to effect/punish the turncoats so I will have to punish all Republicans. They are the only ones who can influence the turncoats at this point. There is no other day. Demographics leaves no other option. Democrats will soon rule, as they do in California, until a party left of them is established and what Republicans have represented in the past has no voice. The Republicans themselves must give the turncoats a "blanket party" or we are past the point of no return.

"Private Pyle has dishonored himself and dishonored his platoon. I have tried to help Private Pyle. I have failed. I have failed because YOU have not given Private Pyle the proper motivation! So, from now on, whenever Private Pyle fucks up, I will not punish him! I will punish all of YOU!"

If they choose to ignore the will of those that elected them: "I'm going to rip your balls off, so you cannot contaminate the rest of the world. I will motivate you, Private Pyle, if it short-dicks every cannibal on the Congo."

Link Posted: 3/29/2006 11:37:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/29/2006 11:37:54 PM EDT by blacklisted]
Cool, but don't vote democrat! You don't have to choose between a douche and a turd.
Link Posted: 3/29/2006 11:38:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/29/2006 11:39:11 PM EDT by AROptics]
No chance I'll vote for a Democrat. The Republican's lose (my soon to be worthless) vote. The Democrats don't gain it.
Link Posted: 3/29/2006 11:49:59 PM EDT

Originally Posted By blacklisted:
Cool, but don't vote democrat! You don't have to choose between a douche and a turd.



Not voting GOP is the same effect as voting Dem...

Link Posted: 3/29/2006 11:53:41 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Dave_A:

Originally Posted By blacklisted:
Cool, but don't vote democrat! You don't have to choose between a douche and a turd.



Not voting GOP is the same effect as voting Dem...




Fixed it for you.
Link Posted: 3/30/2006 12:01:54 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/30/2006 12:02:30 AM EDT by Big_Louie]
Something has to be done. I'm not entirely unhappy with Bush and the Republicans but some things aren't all that great. Foreign policy is generally ok and the Supreme Court stuff is good, plus he's a friend to gunowners...note the AWB is long gone.

I hate his stance on immigration and I hate how he throws money down a black hole on useless social programs that don't even benefit American citizens...AIDS money for Africa and about a dozen others. Democrats are completely unacceptable though.

All the third parties are too loony to be viable and I don't like components of their policy any more than I do those of the Republicans and Democrats. What to do? I don't know. Let's see how things turn out closer to election time.
Link Posted: 3/30/2006 12:14:03 AM EDT
I can't say that I am entirely pleased with the party's current standings on some major issues. Immigration reform being at the top of my list. But what you gonna do. I guess I would be okay with maing them legal, and allowing further immigration as long they were held to the same standards as the rest of us. You know paying taxes, and footing the bill for their own healthcare.

But on the other hand as an EMS provider here in PA, I can tell you with no doubt what so ever that their are plenty of Americans around here with no healthcare and they do just as good of a job working the system as theses Mexicans. Do I have all the answers? Certainly not, so I'm just gonna wait and see what happens. I know that most of us are here because our ancestors emmigrtaed from some where in Europe, but times have changed, and we must deal with what comes our way. rounding them all up and deporting them could be one answer, but I doubt it is easy as some here proclaim it to be. Besides I'm sure there are some immigrants who are here on good intentions. I work with a few have come from Mexico, They have obtained citizenship and are paying taxes like the rest of us.

Don't really know what else to say. So I'm gonna stop typing.

Semper Paratus.
Link Posted: 3/30/2006 3:20:54 AM EDT
If the Repubs pass anything that smacks in any way of amnesty or legalization of the millions of Mexicans here illegally, I will do everything in my power to drive them out of office -- even if it means voting for every Dem running for office.

They will learn via the election process that their base cannot be taken for granted. That is the ONLY WAY they will return to their base.

The saddest thing is that the GOP is too FUCKING STOOOOOPID to understand that legalizing the illegals will NOT create ANY gratitude among illegals and Mex-Americans; they will continue to vote Dem to get the massive social services. Unless, of course, the GOP becomes as socialist as the Dems, all in a vain chase for foreigners' votes.
Link Posted: 3/30/2006 3:50:39 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/30/2006 4:39:17 AM EDT by twl]
Link Posted: 3/30/2006 4:04:23 AM EDT
tag for later
Link Posted: 3/30/2006 4:23:42 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/30/2006 4:24:08 AM EDT by MTUSA]
Impound your business if you hire illegals.
Thats radical. If nobody hires these folks they won't stroll over the border anymore.
Eliminate achor baby status too. Problem solved.
Link Posted: 3/30/2006 5:27:19 AM EDT

Originally Posted By AROptics:
A few Republican turncoats are attempting to pass legislation, with the help of nearly every Democrat, to legalize 12-40 million illegal immigrants. Their legislation would also NOT build a wall to slow the flow of even more illegal immigrants. I cannot influence the turncoats, they are not my Senators or Congressmen. However, the Republicans will be responsible if this passes. The Republicans control both houses and the presidency.

<snip>



You are spot on in you analysis.

Amnesty for illegal aliens is coming, it will not be stopped. Illegal aliens are too beneficial for the Government to not give them amnesty. Cheap labor for corporations who run the government-Prop up the failing social security system with numbers- incapacitate the voters who believe in the Constitution/BOR (20-60 million new socialist voters will wipe out Constitutionalists/ Conservatives and your vote will have no meaning)-America headed to 3rd world shithole/ balkanized along cultural/racial lines.

Prepare, it is coming.
Link Posted: 3/30/2006 7:02:44 AM EDT
Write-in vote for a new repub ??

rj
Link Posted: 3/30/2006 10:12:49 AM EDT
bump for day
Link Posted: 3/30/2006 10:23:12 AM EDT

Originally Posted By AROptics:

Snip

Until a wall is built and the Rule of Law is restored as to immigration, I will not vote for another Republican.

Snip




I am going to print this out and send it to all my elected reps.

On second thought I will change it to 'demoncrap' when I send it to sweinstain and box-turd.
Link Posted: 3/30/2006 10:30:18 AM EDT
A "partisan" in CA. I like that. By WWII analogy you live in the Ukraine (overrun). I live in Stalingrad... "Not one step backwards".

Also, send it to the (R) only, if you have any. Democrats already know they are delivering the fatal blow.
Link Posted: 3/30/2006 10:42:06 AM EDT
The four turncoat, so-called Republicans that sided with the Democrats and disregarded their constituents are: Arlen Specter, Lindsey Graham, Sam Brownback, and Mike DeWine .

Dont let these gentlemen hold these offices the next term.
Link Posted: 3/30/2006 10:45:01 AM EDT

Originally Posted By PinPointOne:
The four turncoat, so-called Republicans that sided with the Democrats and disregarded their constituents are: Arlen Specter, Lindsey Graham, Sam Brownback, and Mike DeWine .

Dont let these gentlemen hold these offices the next term.



I take it you are already counting McCain as a Democrat?
Link Posted: 3/30/2006 10:49:57 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/30/2006 10:50:35 AM EDT by Tromatic]
Who cares, enjoy the slide to the toilet. If anti-ilegal folks do not get elected this time around, it will never happen. After '08, there will be far too many voting ilegals and they will be able to tip the balance to the Dems. After that, if people can pull themselves away from American Asswip, gunfire in the streets will be the only solution. America, fuck yeah! Circling the turd-world drain.
Link Posted: 3/30/2006 10:56:45 AM EDT

Originally Posted By NYPatriot:

Originally Posted By Dave_A:

Originally Posted By blacklisted:
Cool, but don't vote democrat! You don't have to choose between a douche and a turd.



Not voting GOP is the same effect as voting Dem...




Fixed it for you.



You obviously do not know what you are talking about.
Link Posted: 3/30/2006 11:05:27 AM EDT
Uhh.. welcome to politics.


Originally Posted By Big_Louie:
Something has to be done. I'm not entirely unhappy with Bush and the Republicans but some things aren't all that great. Foreign policy is generally ok and the Supreme Court stuff is good, plus he's a friend to gunowners...note the AWB is long gone.

I hate his stance on immigration and I hate how he throws money down a black hole on useless social programs that don't even benefit American citizens...AIDS money for Africa and about a dozen others. Democrats are completely unacceptable though.

All the third parties are too loony to be viable and I don't like components of their policy any more than I do those of the Republicans and Democrats. What to do? I don't know. Let's see how things turn out closer to election time.

Link Posted: 3/30/2006 1:52:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/30/2006 1:58:03 PM EDT by AROptics]
Antony Sabato from UVA just said on Fox News that the Latino vote is essential to Republicans. He emphasized that Bush increased the percentage of Latinos voting for him from 35% in 2000 to 40-42% in 2004. He says if we "alienate" the Latino vote we will be done.

OK, so we pass amnesty to gain La Raza's "approval" and increase the number of Latino voters by 40 million.

Using the Latino percentages from 2004 (which includes long term US citizens of Latino decent, not recent illegal arrivals from Guatemala) That makes 16,000,000 more Republicans and 24,000,000 Democrats! A net gain for Democrats of 8,000,000 NEW DEMOCRATS. Sabato is an IDIOT.

If we get less than 50% of any group of new arrivals REPUBLICANS LOSE!

Look at California. Republicans consistently lose, gun rights lose, the climate is less business friendly, there is no productivity gain, and the budget is repeatedly broken by the cost of public services to illegal immigrants.

We have seen the "benefits" of illegals in Kommiefornia. This is suicide for conservatives.
Link Posted: 3/30/2006 1:54:16 PM EDT

Originally Posted By NYPatriot:

Originally Posted By Dave_A:

Originally Posted By blacklisted:
Cool, but don't vote democrat! You don't have to choose between a douche and a turd.



Not voting GOP is the same effect as voting Dem...




Fixed it for you.



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