Quoted: for a number of years, i have maintained that within another generation, france and germany will be muslim nations. mcole
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Problem is, the math doesn't work.
Germany is less than 4% muslim, many of whom are elderly and NOT having kids, and many of whom are little children, and not ready to have kids yet.
So, let's be generous, and assume that half the muslims are ready to have kids, based on their age group (and, lets also assume that half of them even WANT to have kids, and found a partner to have kids with - also very generous assumtions). So this would mean that less than 2% of the german population is somehow going to have enough kids to become a MAJORITY in Germany in a generation?
That's patently impossible. Let's do the math.
For one thing, only about 15 million germans are going to die within the next 20 years (roughly the percentage above age 65, let's say). So, if 15 million die (and lets also be generous and assume that NONE of the ones that die are muslims) - that drops the "german" (non-muslim) part of the population from about 82 million to about 67 million.
For the muslims to become the majority in a generation, they'd have to add a minimum of 64 million kids in the next generation
more than the germans are having kids - and that number will only increase as the "german" germans have kids of their own.
So let's assume that NO "german" germans will have ANY children at all, just to make the calculation easier, and to make it even easier for the muslims to "take over". All germans will immediately stop having kids, except muslims. This is obviously a completely retarded assumption, since plenty of germans are having kids (although perhaps not at the 2.1 children per couple replacement rate a society generally wants), but useful for calculation.
So, the question is, even with the crazy assumption that all "german" germans will stop having children, how many children will each muslim couple need to have to have muslims be the majority in one generation?
If there are roughly 3 million muslims in Germany, and about half are of breeding age, ability and desire, that leaves 1.5 million in that category. Which is about 750,000 couples, obvioulsy.
So, if 750,000 couples need to generate 64,000,000 children in one generation, that would roughly be
85 children per muslim couple.
I don't really think that's going to happen.
Not trying to mock you or flame you - just saying that the muslims are not going to be a majority in Germany in one generation, or anytime soon. Once you start calculating the actual maths involved, it will take a LONG time for muslims to become a majority in most European countries.
That doesn't mean it's not a huge problem. I agree 100% that it's a problem, especially in large European cities. There are some Swedish cities (some unfortunately close to Denmark) where the police have completely lost control of parts of the city. The complete lack of respect for democracy and law, and the lack of any loyalty to their "new" home countries that some muslims have displayed over this cartoon debacle have opend many eyes (especially in Denmark), about just how much of a threat even a muslim minority in a country is to freedom and democracy.