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Posted: 3/27/2006 8:50:41 PM EDT
Not sure if the mods will lock this, but this is a family-discussion type of thread.

So my friend tonight tells me his 16-yr old cousin is addicted to pron... gay pron!! The family has turned off all internet access, but they caught him at a relatives house looking at guy on guy action films. Blagh!!

They can't stop him apparently, but check this out...

The dad refuses to talk to the kid about it.
The mom refuses to talk to the kid about it.
The sister just deals with him stealing her college laptop and getting into the pron. They lock down the PC's as best they can.
Very religious family, would probably disown the kid if it came out he was gay, so I think that's why they aren't confronting the issue.

They are convinced it's an experimentation "phase" he's going through, and he's not really gay.

What say you? Phase... or gay?
And shouldn't the dad say something to the kid?
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 8:52:18 PM EDT

Originally Posted By REALM:
And shouldn't the dad say something to the kid?



of course (and this is coming from "a very religious" person).
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 8:52:20 PM EDT
Phase my ass

Link Posted: 3/27/2006 8:52:37 PM EDT
phase or not, someone needs to sack up and talk to the kid.

if he's gay, deal with it.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 8:52:43 PM EDT
If he's addicted to gay porn , I'd say hes gay. If it was a one time thing I wouldnt think much of it, but seeing as they had to lock down computers to keep him away from it, I'd say there isn't much chance its just a phase.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 8:58:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/27/2006 8:58:32 PM EDT by Comrade_Gaernin]
I have to say that I started looking at gay porn when I was around 14ish. Very similar situation actually, religious family, etc. They talked to me about it, and I denied it and was able to hide things for awhile (computer illiterate family). I didn't come out until I was 19ish.
The kid is probably gay, but he isn't going to come out until he is ready. After I did my relationship with my parents improved 100%, best thing I ever did.
Just give him as much support as possible, and he will turn out OK. Being gay hasn't erased the values I was raised with.

You can thank Enigma for showing me this thread too ;P
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 9:00:53 PM EDT
oh sure blame me
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 9:12:34 PM EDT
At 16 he probably isn’t just "curious." He's gay; so what? Although the fact that he is obsessed with it is odd. I'm pretty sure the average homosexual is no more interested in porn than the average heterosexual. Any family that would disown their own child for this sort of thing has bad values no matter how religious. It is the ultimate failure of a parent when they disown their child for any reason.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 9:16:00 PM EDT
Damn...
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 9:16:09 PM EDT
Needs to be dealt with, allowing unfettered access will create a bigger problem.

Stupid people.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 9:16:33 PM EDT

Originally Posted By REALM:
They are convinced it's an experimentation "phase" he's going through, and he's not really gay.


I wouldn't bet money on him being straight if he downloads videos of guys porking each other. Sheesh.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 9:16:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/27/2006 9:18:11 PM EDT by PeteCO]
If they try to suppress his access to the porn without talking to him, how long do they think it will be before he's sucking cocks through glory holes at adult book stores?

They need to have a talk with him, the porn/sex addiction is clearly the bigger issue here (not the gayness). The gay shit might be part of a progression toward harder core stuff but I wouldn't bet on it.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 9:17:49 PM EDT
Ignore it and I guess it just goes away.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 9:18:27 PM EDT
He's gay...
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 9:18:32 PM EDT

Originally Posted By PeteCO:
If they try to suppress his access to the porn without talking to him, how long do they think it will be before he's sucking cocks through glory holes at adult book stores?

They need to have a talk with him, the porn addiction is clearly the bigger issue here (not the gayness).


+1 If he really is addicted to porn (of any type) perhaps some professional therapy may be in order.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 9:18:41 PM EDT
if I had the internet when I was 16 I would have been like a jackrabbit, with myself!
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 9:20:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/27/2006 9:25:30 PM EDT by 4xDawn]

Originally Posted By REALM:
The dad refuses to talk to the kid about it.
The mom refuses to talk to the kid about it.



His parents need to be parents, and deal with this within their family. He is still their child.

Sounds like a counseling candidate to me.


Eta: You know...You heard from a friend...

Its entirely possible that you don't know the whole story here, and the parents MAY be handling it, just not talking about it to everybody...including a cousin who gossips to his friends...
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 9:20:29 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 9:21:42 PM EDT
You don't "experiment" with penis, or pictures of penis, or thinking about penis, unless you're gay.

The boy's gay.

Gay.

GAY.

GAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYY.

That's fine, btw, but he's gay.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 9:22:24 PM EDT
How can anybody not like pussy?
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 9:24:53 PM EDT
tag for shitstorm
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 9:27:32 PM EDT
you shouldnt have let the kids see brokeback mountain!! i tried to tell you guys!!
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 9:39:19 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MST2:
How can anybody not like pussy?



Same way people like Glocks I guess.....they're just, uh, different.

Not wrong, just "different".

Don't judge.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 9:43:28 PM EDT
Could be worse. Could be japscat.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 9:43:35 PM EDT
Am I the only one who saw "specialized" porn and immediately thought it was something crazy like bestiality or scat porn?
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 9:45:09 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Ryan1021:
Am I the only one who saw "specialized" porn and immediately thought it was something crazy like bestiality or scat porn?



No, I thought the same thing.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 9:59:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/27/2006 10:08:07 PM EDT by BUCC_Guy]
He's gay or bisexual... no doubt about it.

And internet or not, he WILL get his hands on some pron if he wants it. Taking away the internet is kind of a stupid gesture.

What the kid needs is A) A little support and B) A understanding about stable relationships.

If he goes secretive or underground about the whole affair, he's going to be in a tight situation.

The happiest LGBT folks I know are the out ones. The closeted ones are miserable.


- BG

EDIT: A friend of mine in high school was gay. His parents ignored it and finally said that he was messed up and that he could either go to the prom with a girl or couldn't go at all. They also swore that they wouldn't pay for his college tuition if he didn't "straighten up."

They got their wish. They don't have a gay son anymore. He killed himself late in his senior year in high school.

But, comon. Being queer is a choice, remember?



They got their wish...
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 10:05:33 PM EDT
Yep he's gay and the only thing you can do about it is accept it.

Or send him to one of those religious workshops where a little electrotherapy is used to make the kid's family think they are doing something to help it...
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 10:06:59 PM EDT
AVERSION THERAPY

Link Posted: 3/27/2006 10:09:25 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 10:10:23 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Ardenner:

Originally Posted By Ryan1021:
Am I the only one who saw "specialized" porn and immediately thought it was something crazy like bestiality or scat porn?



No, I thought the same thing.





+1

They cannot lock the internet away from this kid, he can just go to the public library where his "right to view pronography as a minor" is protected and encouraged.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 10:11:27 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Recon_by_Fire:

Originally Posted By Ardenner:

Originally Posted By Ryan1021:
Am I the only one who saw "specialized" porn and immediately thought it was something crazy like bestiality or scat porn?



No, I thought the same thing.





+1

They cannot lock the internet away from this kid, he can just go to the public library where his "right to view pronography as a minor" is protected and encouraged.



Or he might actually go out and do the deed for real!
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 10:11:41 PM EDT


+

Dad

+

Backyard



Maybe spending a little more time with junior, instead of ignoring his problem, might help to get his mind off of manpoles.


Link Posted: 3/27/2006 10:12:29 PM EDT
No way this will end well.

IBTEverything.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 10:14:40 PM EDT
homosexual!!!! clearly they should lynch him!!!

errr uhhhh, accept it/him and move on. much more important things to worry about imo.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 10:18:10 PM EDT
If you look at male/male gay porn more than once ON PURPOSE you are fucking gay.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 10:24:44 PM EDT

Originally Posted By SteyrAUG:
If you look at male/male gay porn more than once ON PURPOSE you are fucking gay.



I think it is well-established that he's gay. Making sure he goes to college and does alright for himself is more important.


- BG
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 10:30:59 PM EDT
He needs emergency Playboy magazine therapy!
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 10:35:01 PM EDT

Originally Posted By mcgredo:
He needs emergency Playboy magazine therapy!




Yep, leave some Playboys laying around loose in the bathroom for the kid. Hire an "entertainer" for him....

Smokey the Bear says "Only you can prevent homosexuality" LOL
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 10:51:03 PM EDT
I was addicted to porn at a very young age, 13, I looked at nearly everything, straight porn, gay porn, midget porn, etc. I was masturbating like 4 times a day.I thought that I was gay because I had never slept with a girl and was looking at gay porn, which really messed with my head. Well I learned that I wasnt gay, but instead I had an addiction to porn/sex, which is far worse. Well it was getting to the point where I didnt have a televsion, the computer was locked up at night, I didnt have easy access to a computer. But all that did was to make the addiction dormant. I would go for a few weeks/months or whatever without looking at porn, and then once I had easy access I would go nuts and not do anything productive.

Well fast forward 6 years. I still have an addiction to porn, but I do not even start looking at it. I know now that one boobie or twat will basically start this cycle of me looking at porn for hours on end. I was spirtually dead inside and miserable as a person. I no longer want to feel that way so 30 seconds of relief is not worth the feelings of guilt, shame, and remorse that would follow me around the rest of the day. If you would like me to talk to him I would be more than willing to. I dont know if I could help but I am willing to share my experience strength and hope. im me if you would like.

James
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 10:53:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/27/2006 11:00:20 PM EDT by vito113]
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 10:54:48 PM EDT
GAY, GAY, GAY. I doubt its some kind phase, hes gay. Not saying he should be disowned but the family should deal with it in their own way. A good religious leader can probably help. Because no matter how many times you say it, There is something wrong with being gay. Call me a religious zelot or freak if you want, but thats my belief and I'm free to express it in any way I see fit.

GAY = WRONG............
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 11:15:32 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Maxim_Mag:
GAY, GAY, GAY. I doubt its some kind phase, hes gay. Not saying he should be disowned but the family should deal with it in their own way. A good religious leader can probably help. Because no matter how many times you say it, There is something wrong with being gay. Call me a religious zelot or freak if you want, but thats my belief and I'm free to express it in any way I see fit.

GAY = WRONG............



so what do you sugest? He off himself?
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 11:19:39 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Enigma102083:

Originally Posted By Maxim_Mag:
GAY, GAY, GAY. I doubt its some kind phase, hes gay. Not saying he should be disowned but the family should deal with it in their own way. A good religious leader can probably help. Because no matter how many times you say it, There is something wrong with being gay. Call me a religious zelot or freak if you want, but thats my belief and I'm free to express it in any way I see fit.

GAY = WRONG............


so what do you sugest? He off himself?



What part of the above post says he should kill himself. I said in my opinion it is wrong to be gay, and he needs help straightening out his life, which ever lifestyle he chooses to live. Why don't you try not reading into things and practice your pushing of aceepting alternative lifestyles on some one else.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 11:23:29 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Maxim_Mag:

Originally Posted By Enigma102083:

Originally Posted By Maxim_Mag:
GAY, GAY, GAY. I doubt its some kind phase, hes gay. Not saying he should be disowned but the family should deal with it in their own way. A good religious leader can probably help. Because no matter how many times you say it, There is something wrong with being gay. Call me a religious zelot or freak if you want, but thats my belief and I'm free to express it in any way I see fit.

GAY = WRONG............


so what do you sugest? He off himself?



What part of the above post says he should kill himself. I said in my opinion it is wrong to be gay, and he needs help straightening out his life, which ever lifestyle he chooses to live. Why don't you try not reading into things and practice your pushing of aceepting alternative lifestyles on some one else.



whos' doing the pushing here?
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 11:25:53 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Maxim_Mag:

Originally Posted By Enigma102083:

Originally Posted By Maxim_Mag:
GAY, GAY, GAY. I doubt its some kind phase, hes gay. Not saying he should be disowned but the family should deal with it in their own way. A good religious leader can probably help. Because no matter how many times you say it, There is something wrong with being gay. Call me a religious zelot or freak if you want, but thats my belief and I'm free to express it in any way I see fit.

GAY = WRONG............


so what do you sugest? He off himself?



What part of the above post says he should kill himself. I said in my opinion it is wrong to be gay, and he needs help straightening out his life, which ever lifestyle he chooses to live. Why don't you try not reading into things and practice your pushing of aceepting alternative lifestyles on some one else.



Well then what should he do? Lock himself away in a convent? Become a priest?

Do you have kids?
Link Posted: 3/28/2006 12:16:57 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Maxim_Mag:
GAY, GAY, GAY. I doubt its some kind phase, hes gay. Not saying he should be disowned but the family should deal with it in their own way. A good religious leader can probably help. Because no matter how many times you say it, There is something wrong with being gay. Call me a religious zelot or freak if you want, but thats my belief and I'm free to express it in any way I see fit.

GAY = WRONG............



Link Posted: 3/28/2006 12:32:32 AM EDT

Originally Posted By MEI2757935:

Originally Posted By Maxim_Mag:
GAY, GAY, GAY. I doubt its some kind phase, hes gay. Not saying he should be disowned but the family should deal with it in their own way. A good religious leader can probably help. Because no matter how many times you say it, There is something wrong with being gay. Call me a religious zelot or freak if you want, but thats my belief and I'm free to express it in any way I see fit.

GAY = WRONG............



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Right I suck because I think its wrong to be gay. I never said anything about locking him up, or killing himself. When did this site and the country as a whole as a matter of fact become so complacent and non chalante. Just because I'm a christain man and do not believe in homosexuality, and feel as though his life style is wrong makes me a bad person. I think I even said more than once that if thats the way he wants to be let him. I would be concerned that a child of mine was addicted viewing pornography, whether it was gay or hetero. And yes I do have children. And I would never disown them for any reason, as no father should do ever. But why do I suck because I won't accept his beliefs as right.
Link Posted: 3/28/2006 12:47:48 AM EDT
Nothing is wrong with looking at porn on a regular basis.

When I was growing up and I got internet access I was looking at porn atleast daily.
Link Posted: 3/28/2006 12:47:56 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Maxim_Mag:

Originally Posted By MEI2757935:

Originally Posted By Maxim_Mag:
GAY, GAY, GAY. I doubt its some kind phase, hes gay. Not saying he should be disowned but the family should deal with it in their own way. A good religious leader can probably help. Because no matter how many times you say it, There is something wrong with being gay. Call me a religious zelot or freak if you want, but thats my belief and I'm free to express it in any way I see fit.

GAY = WRONG............



img238.imageshack.us/img238/1575/suck0wk.jpg</a>



Right I suck because I think its wrong to be gay. I never said anything about locking him up, or killing himself. When did this site and the country as a whole as a matter of fact become so complacent and non chalante. Just because I'm a christain man and do not believe in homosexuality, and feel as though his life style is wrong makes me a bad person. I think I even said more than once that if thats the way he wants to be let him. I would be concerned that a child of mine was addicted viewing pornography, whether it was gay or hetero. And yes I do have children. And I would never disown them for any reason, as no father should do ever. But why do I suck because I won't accept his beliefs as right.



You don't....some people just over react to christians......the parts I highlighted in red are what's important .
Link Posted: 3/28/2006 12:50:54 AM EDT
So, it appears he is gay. Not much to do about that but wait.

As for the porn, his parents can just work hard to keep him from getting to it. Do they have so much trouble controlling him that they can't restrict his internet access? Maybe I'm confused.
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