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Posted: 3/27/2006 6:01:09 PM EDT
LOOK WHO'S PACKIN'
By HEATHER GILMORE and BRAD HAMILTON
New York Post
March 26, 2006

Billionaires are going ballistic.

Ronald Lauder has joined trigger-happy tycoons Donald Trump and Seagrams scion Edgar Bronfman Sr. as the richest men in the city packing heat, according to the NYPD's gun-permit list.

Lauder, the cosmetics heir, and multimillionaire Marvel Comics CEO Isaac Perlmutter are the newest gun-club members licensed to carry a weapon - topping a list that already included "Mean Streets" actors Harvey Keitel and Robert De Niro, "Scarface" producer Martin Bregman and shock jocks Don Imus and Howard Stern.

These boldfaced names are among more than 38,000 licensed gun owners in the city; the number has steadily declined in recent years as fewer people apply for permits - and fewer are approved.

"The review is thorough and it may include a site visit," said Police Inspector Michael Coan. "Permits are reviewed upon renewal to ensure proper cause exists to continue the permit."

Other gun-toting notables - who have a license to carry as opposed to a permit to keep their weapon only at a home or business - include anti-gun activist Fernando Mateo and Giuliani Partners execs Richard Sheirer and Anthony Carbonetti - an in-law of the notorious booze-peddling Dorrian clan.

Republican Senate majority leader Joe Bruno and music czar Tommy Mottola remain licensed carriers, according to NYPD records through March 17.

Millionaire Winthrop Rockefeller and former TV Anchor John Roland are no longer on the list; the NYPD wouldn't say why not.

Former Manhattan Judge Leslie Crocker Snyder is also licensed to carry a firearm.

"You will see a lot of judges with [gun] permits, and I've also noticed over the years more women applying," said NYPD License Division Capt. Mike Endall.

Queens DA Richard Brown is the only elected prosecutor in the city with a gun license, but "he has his own security, so he doesn't walk around carrying a gun," said spokeswoman Nicole Navas.

Celebrity divorce lawyer Raoul Felder said he has carried a gun since 1961 during his days as a prosecutor.

"A man threatened to kill me, and since he was a murderer I thought it was time to get a gun," he said. "We live in a very disturbed age. There's all kinds of sickness."

Subway vigilante Bernie Goetz's lawyer, Barry Slotnick, is also strapped.

Last year 3,187 people applied for gun licenses, and 2,575, or 81 percent, were approved. In the same period, 141 licenses were revoked and 4,103 licenses were canceled.

In 2004, 3,454 applications were filed and 2,860 - or 83 percent - were approved; 189 licenses were revoked and 3,473 cancelled.

heather.gilmore@nypost.com


www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/63648.htm
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 6:12:30 PM EDT
Damn 81% approved? What's the application process like in NY?
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 6:20:54 PM EDT
I am Jack's complete lack of surprise....



Link Posted: 3/27/2006 6:22:40 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
Damn 81% approved? What's the application process like in NY?



$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 6:23:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/27/2006 6:23:50 PM EDT by rcoers]
What total bullshit, how is this legit? If you have $ and/or you're famous, your life is more valuable than Joe Blow's according to the state of NY. Fuck that place!
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 6:27:07 PM EDT
NYC gun license list = people who think they are better than you list
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 6:29:35 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
Damn 81% approved? What's the application process like in NY?



Link Posted: 3/27/2006 6:30:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/27/2006 7:49:56 PM EDT by warlord]
So what else is new? Here in the Los Angeles you have to be either a judge or a famous Hollyweird celeb in order to qualify for one, anybody else might a well forget it. In Orange County, home of Disneyland and the Los Angeles Angels, the previous Sheriff Brad Gates(no relationship to former LAPD chief Daryl Gates) would give you CCW if you contiibuted enough money to his re-election campaign.

"I need gun to protect myself from gun nuts like you." D. Fienstein, Calif Senator.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 6:31:19 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 95thFoot:

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
Damn 81% approved? What's the application process like in NY?



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Little light on the C-notes I think.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 6:35:10 PM EDT
Yeah...let the average shmuck try to get a carry permit in NYC...it's reserved for the rich and connected...of course their safety is more important...remember, all men are created equal...then they're born.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 6:37:00 PM EDT
Money can make anything happen
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 6:49:13 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ElCamino:

Originally Posted By 95thFoot:

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
Damn 81% approved? What's the application process like in NY?



imageserver4.textamerica.com/user.images.x/66/IMG_436066/Big/_0517/T520050517134059956.jpg



Little light on the C-notes I think.



Ironically true.

I count maybe 650-700 if those aren't singles hidden in the stack. That should be almost enough to take care of everything except (IIRC) the mandatory pistol that must be paid for before one even applies for a permit. So that should just about cover HALF of the total after-tax cost of applying, given a good pistol.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 7:02:03 PM EDT
What are y'all reading?

I'm reading 80+% approved.

Hell, that is A LOT higher than I thought it would be.

I figured it would be 10 or 15% approval.

The real question is why do so few apply?
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 7:49:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/27/2006 7:56:09 PM EDT by Tannim]

Originally Posted By krpind:
What are y'all reading?

I'm reading 80+% approved.

Hell, that is A LOT higher than I thought it would be.

I figured it would be 10 or 15% approval.

The real question is why do so few apply?



NO THE REAL QUESITON IS WHY ARE AN EQUAL NUMBER CANCELLED EACH YEAR?

They visit your site and determine if you need one.

That rosy 81% is 81% who pay the bribes, the 19 who don't and everyone else who knows the system is rigged and don't play by either buying an illegal gun or doing without.

Gun laws only succeed in making law abding people disarmed or criminals.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 7:57:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/27/2006 7:57:59 PM EDT by Tannim]
38,000 permits

7.5 million people in NYC

0.5067%

Link Posted: 3/27/2006 8:00:53 PM EDT
If you click on the above NY Post link, there is a picture of NYC judge Leslie Crocker Snyder. Apparently she is running for a DA slot.
www.snyderfornewyork.org/meet_leslie/

Leslie Crocker Snyder is a Democrat running for Manhattan District Attorney.

As a nationally recognized leader in the fight against crime, Leslie has spent over 35 years protecting New Yorkers as a prosecutor, Judge and devoted public servant. Leslie is an advocate for reform, focused on all of our communities and committed to making New Yorkers safe from threats as universal as terrorism and as personal as domestic violence.

Link Posted: 3/27/2006 8:06:33 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Tannim:
38,000 permits

7.5 million people in NYC

0.005067%






Fixed.

.50 = 50% whereas .005 = 5%. 38,000/7,500,000 = 5 percent and change.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 8:07:38 PM EDT
This shit just burns me up:



Other gun-toting notables - who have a license to carry as opposed to a permit to keep their weapon only at a home or business - include anti-gun activist Fernando Mateo and Giuliani Partners execs Richard Sheirer and Anthony Carbonetti - an in-law of the notorious booze-peddling Dorrian clan.



Fucking hypocrites.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 8:13:14 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ElevenO:

Originally Posted By Tannim:
38,000 permits

7.5 million people in NYC

0.005067%






Fixed.

.50 = 50% whereas .005 = 5%. 38,000/7,500,000 = 5 percent and change.



.005 is 1/2 of 1%

And it is very damned few.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 8:15:02 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Hipster:
snip

"The review is thorough and it may include a site visit," said Police Inspector Michael Coan. "Permits are reviewed upon renewal to ensure proper cause exists to continue the permit."

snip



Link Posted: 3/27/2006 8:26:49 PM EDT

Originally Posted By krpind:

Originally Posted By ElevenO:

Originally Posted By Tannim:
38,000 permits

7.5 million people in NYC

0.005067%






Fixed.

.50 = 50% whereas .005 = 5%. 38,000/7,500,000 = 5 percent and change.



.005 is 1/2 of 1%

And it is very damned few.



Ooops. You're right. I meant well. I just didn't write well.The curse of the math nazi strikes again.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 8:29:39 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ElevenO:

Originally Posted By krpind:

Originally Posted By ElevenO:

Originally Posted By Tannim:
38,000 permits

7.5 million people in NYC

0.005067%






Fixed.

.50 = 50% whereas .005 = 5%. 38,000/7,500,000 = 5 percent and change.



.005 is 1/2 of 1%

And it is very damned few.



Ooops. You're right. I meant well. I just didn't write well.The curse of the math nazi strikes again.



Ehh....not a nazi at all.....I know I could be the next to misspell a word or put a decimal point in the wrong place.

But my earlier point was there were not a lot of applicants, and 5% is a lot more than 1/2 of 1%.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 8:35:36 PM EDT

Originally Posted By krpind:

Originally Posted By ElevenO:

Originally Posted By krpind:

Originally Posted By ElevenO:

Originally Posted By Tannim:
38,000 permits

7.5 million people in NYC

0.005067%






Fixed.

.50 = 50% whereas .005 = 5%. 38,000/7,500,000 = 5 percent and change.



.005 is 1/2 of 1%

And it is very damned few.



Ooops. You're right. I meant well. I just didn't write well.The curse of the math nazi strikes again.



Ehh....not a nazi at all.....I know I could be the next to misspell a word or put a decimal point in the wrong place.

But my earlier point was there were not a lot of applicants, and 5% is a lot more than 1/2 of 1%.





That's okay because I wasn't referring to you as being a grammar/math nazi anyway. I was actually referring to the nasty habit that I have of making a mistake myself while I am, at the same time, trying to correct somebody else for their mistake. To wit:


The "curse of the grammer/math nazi"= the tendency to make a grammar/math mistake while correcting somebody else for their grammer/math mistake.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 8:51:13 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
Damn 81% approved? What's the application process like in NY?



Money, money, money, MONE-EYYY
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 8:52:51 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ElevenO:

Originally Posted By Tannim:
38,000 permits
7.5 million people in NYC
0.005067%


Fixed.
.50 = 50% whereas .005 = 5%. 38,000/7,500,000 = 5 percent and change.



Compared to what, 100% of the gun-toting criminals? Armed robbery there must be insane.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 9:31:04 PM EDT

Originally Posted By thedoctors308:

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
Damn 81% approved? What's the application process like in NY?



Money, money, money, MONE-EYYY



$425 when I applied for mine 2 years ago
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 10:14:13 PM EDT
quote:

$425 when I applied for mine 2 years ago



Not to be nosey.... but are you a "regular joe", and were you able to get approved??
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 10:23:30 PM EDT

Originally Posted By chrome1:

Originally Posted By thedoctors308:

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
Damn 81% approved? What's the application process like in NY?



Money, money, money, MONE-EYYY



$425 when I applied for mine 2 years ago



$15 for 5 years...and they laminate it for you.
Link Posted: 3/28/2006 6:10:32 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/28/2006 6:11:40 AM EDT by tehlump]
What is eye opening is the percentage of the population that does have a concealed carry permits compared to a state with 'liberal' gun laws.

1/2 of 1%?

In TX that number is only 1%.

TX population ~20million

CHLs-~200k
Link Posted: 3/28/2006 6:41:12 AM EDT
It makes perfect sense. Liberals want you dead, not them .
Link Posted: 3/28/2006 6:44:57 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 95thFoot:
I am Jack's complete lack of surprise....






+87 Billion!
Link Posted: 3/28/2006 6:57:01 AM EDT
Well at least 1/2% of New Yorkers feel safe
Link Posted: 3/28/2006 7:01:52 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/28/2006 7:02:36 AM EDT by 95thFoot]

Originally Posted By Hipster:
Other gun-toting notables - who have a license to carry as opposed to a permit to keep their weapon only at a home or business - include anti-gun activist Fernando Mateo



A real piece of work....www.haamerica.org/goodsforguns/index.htm

A Carl Rowan in training....
Link Posted: 3/28/2006 7:12:44 AM EDT

Originally Posted By krpind:
What are y'all reading?

I'm reading 80+% approved.

Hell, that is A LOT higher than I thought it would be.

I figured it would be 10 or 15% approval.

The real question is why do so few apply?



Because most "normal" folkss KNOW they will be denied... so why waste the $$? My guess anyway.
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