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Posted: 3/27/2006 11:57:19 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/27/2006 11:58:23 AM EDT by GonzoAR15-1]
See Malkin's links and photos: michellemalkin.com/archives/004848.htm

Question: What is/should be the appropriate resposne if latinos pursuing the idea of a SoCal/Arizona/New Mexico/Arizona/Colorado takeover of America from the "occupying" , um, "American Gringos" through intifada like tactics?

In other words, what should we do if the Aztlan types start blowing shit up and taking other violent actions to "reclaim" the southwestern USA for mexico?







Link Posted: 3/27/2006 11:59:38 AM EDT
is this where I'm supposed to type "bring it on?"
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 12:00:41 PM EDT
I can't say; it'd be a violation of the CoC.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 12:00:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/27/2006 12:01:29 PM EDT by IAMLEGEND]
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Editted out.


You never know...
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 12:01:03 PM EDT
Yeah they forgot about the Pueblo Indians and such that they killed off for the spanish settlements.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 12:03:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/27/2006 12:03:58 PM EDT by Admiral_Crunch]
Oops. Double-tap.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 12:03:40 PM EDT
I believe it's called sedition. Prosecute as necessary.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 12:04:31 PM EDT
America is finished within 75 years. God help our children.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 12:05:42 PM EDT
Palestinians=Aztlans.

And the sad part is that both mainstream political parties think we can't exist w/o them.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 12:07:09 PM EDT
I was in Los Angeles, Mexico this past weekend for business nd had to walk right through the middle of that giant throng of "protesters" in downtown. Your question is a salient one. These protests are spurned by the fact that the Gov. is apparently starting to do something about this endemic problem. If the Gov. actually acts on any of these proposed measures what will be the outcome?The "illegals" throw a flamming hissy fit when the idea of enforcing our laws is just brought to the table. What if those laws actually start being enforced? The potential for violence is very high IMO.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 12:09:26 PM EDT
Don't illegals and their sympathizers realize all they have to do is come here legally?

EVERY nation on the earth has immigration laws, some simply more lax than others.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 12:09:32 PM EDT
They ain't gonna do shit.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 12:10:02 PM EDT
Call your legislators people.

http://www.capwiz.com/nra/dbq/officials/

NRA site that gives current phone numbers for your politicians.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 12:10:49 PM EDT

Originally Posted By motown_steve:

They ain't gonna do shit.



+1

The South will rise again before the MeChistas do anything.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 12:14:48 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 12:15:23 PM EDT
This would result in lots of damage to the surrounding areas and some violence, but they can't be stupid enough to think that nothing will happen to them if they were to try this shit (rioting) in rural America.

Despite the aforementioned negatives, if illegal immigrants were to riot all they would succeed in doing is turning Americans in their favor, against them.

If the riots start, I'll call in to work (annual leave) and ride it out at home with a rather nice collection of weapons.

Rakes and shovels aren't going to cut it against a firearm.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 12:15:34 PM EDT

Originally Posted By California_Kid:

Originally Posted By motown_steve:

They ain't gonna do shit.



+1

The South will rise again before the MeChistas do anything.



I'm trying to understand how/why you guys think this, since every "pro illegals" demonstration in the last week has resulted in the participation of huge numbers of latinos and illegals with these very throughts clearly on their mind.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 12:22:33 PM EDT
It is clear that they want Texas to be a bigger state.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 12:23:54 PM EDT
I've loaded the .22 and .38 just in case.

Link Posted: 3/27/2006 12:24:23 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 12:24:30 PM EDT
Hopefully we, as a nation, will have the intestinal fortitude to actually do what needs to be done, and the rest of the world doesn't take advantage of the situation when it's happening.


-K
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 12:26:07 PM EDT
They can have Kali on the condition that they keep Feinstein, Boxer, and Rob Reiner.

Link Posted: 3/27/2006 12:28:22 PM EDT
The only reason they want "their land" back is because we made it prosperous. Do they really think the southwest would continue to prosper if Mexico owned it? I don't.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 12:28:56 PM EDT

Tammy Bruce noted on FOX News this morning that American flags were burned at the LA rally and marchers also held signs of the North American continent with America x'ed out.


Our mayor was probably helping out.

Link Posted: 3/27/2006 12:30:59 PM EDT
When will a LA RAZA "Jesse Jackson" emerge to tell all the sheeple of AZTLAN how to "vote correctly"? , is this even nesassary? , the Dmeocrats in this country will really appreciate the help fucking us up some more , these people flee one scocialist SHT. hole , so they can come here and create another one - ( with the help of the Denmycraps)
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 12:33:56 PM EDT

Originally Posted By AROptics:
Call your legislators people.

http://www.capwiz.com/nra/dbq/officials/

NRA site that gives current phone numbers for your politicians.



And do what? Call them what? The turds that need a phone call to remind them of what and who they are and what thier job is need more than a phone call.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 12:36:13 PM EDT

Originally Posted By GonzoAR15-1:

Originally Posted By California_Kid:

Originally Posted By motown_steve:

They ain't gonna do shit.



+1

The South will rise again before the MeChistas do anything.



I'm trying to understand how/why you guys think this, since every "pro illegals" demonstration in the last week has resulted in the participation of huge numbers of latinos and illegals with these very throughts clearly on their mind.



Because the second that the first bomb goes off they lose. Public outcry immedately demands that teh government deport the illegals and enforce the borders to fight the terrorists here in America. Instantly over. Besides, why fight for something when they are handing it to you for free?
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 12:37:48 PM EDT

Originally Posted By sp1shooter:
The only reason they want "their land" back is because we made it prosperous. Do they really think the southwest would continue to prosper if Mexico owned it? I don't.



Very true.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 12:38:06 PM EDT

Originally Posted By sp1shooter:
The only reason they want "their land" back is because we made it prosperous. Do they really think the southwest would continue to prosper if Mexico owned it? I don't.



NO
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 12:39:59 PM EDT

Originally Posted By motown_steve:

Originally Posted By GonzoAR15-1:

Originally Posted By California_Kid:

Originally Posted By motown_steve:

They ain't gonna do shit.



+1

The South will rise again before the MeChistas do anything.



I'm trying to understand how/why you guys think this, since every "pro illegals" demonstration in the last week has resulted in the participation of huge numbers of latinos and illegals with these very throughts clearly on their mind.



Because the second that the first bomb goes off they lose. Public outcry immedately demands that teh government deport the illegals and enforce the borders to fight the terrorists here in America. Instantly over. Besides, why fight for something when they are handing it to you for free?



I think you are seriously wrong, here.

First, the Aztlan movement hates America. That means they'll get a portrayed as misunderstood heros by the liberal media.

Second, I suspect a huge contingent of "root causes" folks will arrive to justify and explain the "hardship"

Thei first response (whether by government or others) that results in large casualities for the "rebels" may well trigger an actual border war with the elemens of the Mexican military that have been amassing on the border.

Its not just going to be a "bad publicity" moment killing the movement. There will be huge categories of folks here, mostly liberals, who will be all to happy to throw concessions at the "reconquistas" and thereby embolden them further.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 12:42:20 PM EDT

Originally Posted By TheFreepster:
is this where I'm supposed to type "bring it on?"



Umm.... Yes, I think the term "Bring it on" would be an appropriate statement.

In fact, I will say it............


BRING IT ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Sorry to yell but this crap make me angry.

[Marvin the martian] "very angry indeed" [Marvin the martian/]
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 12:44:24 PM EDT

Originally Posted By motown_steve:
They ain't gonna do shit.



ARFCOMers aint gonna do shit.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 12:50:06 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 1jackal:

Originally Posted By TheFreepster:
is this where I'm supposed to type "bring it on?"



Umm.... Yes, I think the term "Bring it on" would be an appropriate statement.

In fact, I will say it............


BRING IT ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Sorry to yell but this crap make me angry.


[Marvin the martian] "very angry indeed" [Marvin the martian/]



We Texans had a motto on a flag that showed a cannon with the words "COME AND TAKE IT". That was a little before Texas became a republic by RIGHT of CONQUEST. We have a dip shit radio station here in Austin that calls itself "La Invasionsa". Well we've got about 12 million well armed Texans ready for anything.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 12:51:53 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Blackmagic94:
Yeah they forgot about the Pueblo Indians and such that they killed off for the spanish settlements.



I was thinking similar thoughts.

There are no Mexicans in the way there are Native Americans or Europeans.

As I understand it ,and if I'm wrong please cite the material that says so and I'll be fine with that:
1) Natives were here.
2) Europeans show up, kill 90% of the natives.
3) Europeans import Africans to do the work. (Hey, natives are dead and the euro's are too lazy to work.)
4) Interbreeding between the remaining natives, africans and europeans occurs, as one would expect and that is fine, and out of these three you have current population of what was the Spanish Main.

There isn't anything wrong with that, however if one wants to pull a "This is my ancient homeland and I was here first." ploy, well then the Jews have more of a claim to Palestine than the Mexicans do to the South West U.S.



That or I'm a dick.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 12:54:57 PM EDT

Originally Posted By NimmerMehr:

Originally Posted By Blackmagic94:
Yeah they forgot about the Pueblo Indians and such that they killed off for the spanish settlements.



I was thinking similar thoughts.

There are no Mexicans in the way there are Native Americans or Europeans.

As I understand it ,and if I'm wrong please cite the material that says so and I'll be fine with that:
1) Natives were here.
2) Europeans show up, kill 90% of the natives.
3) Europeans import Africans to do the work. (Hey, natives are dead and the euro's are too lazy to work.)
4) Interbreeding between the remaining natives, africans and europeans occurs, as one would expect and that is fine, and out of these three you have current population of what was the Spanish Main.

There isn't anything wrong with that, however if one wants to pull a "This is my ancient homeland and I was here first." ploy, well then the Jews have more of a claim to Palestine than the Mexicans do to the South West U.S.



That or I'm a dick.



Those options are neither mutually exclusive nor collectively exhaustive.

Link Posted: 3/27/2006 12:55:48 PM EDT
I like the term right of conquest. They can have it if theyre able to forcefully take it.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 12:56:53 PM EDT

Originally Posted By IAMLEGEND:

Those options are neither mutually exclusive nor collectively exhaustive.





Uh.. what does that mean?
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 12:58:04 PM EDT
Arabic language newspaper has been routinely found along the the US/Mex border which is used daily by illegals to invade our country.

If ever the Aztlan'ers had a reason to side with AQ, the time is now. Me thinks Mr. Fox and his country's lax immigration laws have been secretly allowing ROP'ers access to the US border through Mexico.

Maybe i'm nuts, but IMHO the next bonafide terrorist attack on US soil will occur somewhere in California, Arizona, New Mexico or Texas.

Like was said before, the US is fucked!

HS1
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 12:58:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/27/2006 12:59:51 PM EDT by IAMLEGEND]

Originally Posted By NimmerMehr:

Originally Posted By IAMLEGEND:

Those options are neither mutually exclusive nor collectively exhaustive.





Uh.. what does that mean?



It could be both. Or one or the other or both plus something else.

(ETA: I was trying to be funny. As in it could be what you described AND you're a dick).
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 1:05:13 PM EDT

Originally Posted By sp1shooter:
The only reason they want "their land" back is because we made it prosperous. Do they really think the southwest would continue to prosper if Mexico owned it? I don't.



no it would be as fucked up as mexihole is in a very short time. someone needs to point out to these people very clearly that mexihole culture is fucked and that's why they're leaving it. so bringing it here would make here fucked as well.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 1:11:31 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Fourays2:

Originally Posted By sp1shooter:
The only reason they want "their land" back is because we made it prosperous. Do they really think the southwest would continue to prosper if Mexico owned it? I don't.



no it would be as fucked up as mexihole is in a very short time. someone needs to point out to these people very clearly that mexihole culture is fucked and that's why they're leaving it. so bringing it here would make here fucked as well.



I talked with a neighbor who immigrated (legally) from Mexico and is now a US citizen. She said, point blank, that the biggest problem with Mexico is the Mexicans themselves. She went so far as to say that she totally disowns Mexico and if she could she would even change her skin color. She is absolutely furious at how severely Mexicans have squandered their own land.

I just about passed out from hearing her say this.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 1:11:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/27/2006 1:12:47 PM EDT by California_Kid]

Originally Posted By GonzoAR15-1:

...I'm trying to understand how/why you guys think this, since every "pro illegals" demonstration in the last week has resulted in the participation of huge numbers of latinos and illegals with these very throughts clearly on their mind.



I know a lot of Latinos personally. For every one you saw in one of those protests, there are at least 10 who are not in agreement with the picketers. Most Latinos who live in the USA were either born and raised here to parents (or grandparents or beyond) who immigrated legally, or immigrated legally themselves. Most of them are politically moderate, some are staunch conservatives.

Don't fall into one of the political traps that keeps the left wondering why California doesn't behave exactly the way they think it should. People of Hispanic heritage do not all think the same way or believe all the same things.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 1:12:53 PM EDT
It's happening again right this minute in downtown Los Angeles. It's an outrage.

LAPD isn't doing shit to put a lid on it. Damn pussies.

It's mostly a bunch of gangbanging pieces of shit out there. I was just out there and witnessed first-hand the beginning of the demise of my country.

Farewell, USA.

Link Posted: 3/27/2006 1:14:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/27/2006 1:15:20 PM EDT by California_Kid]

Originally Posted By SoCalJBT:
It's happening again right this minute in downtown Los Angeles. It's an outrage.

LAPD isn't doing shit to put a lid on it. Damn pussies. ...



Rain is due to start falling within the next several hours. That will stop the protests in a heartbeat.



Link Posted: 3/27/2006 1:14:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/27/2006 1:17:48 PM EDT by TimJ]
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 1:17:15 PM EDT

Originally Posted By California_Kid:

Rain is due to start falling within the next several hours. That will stop the protests in a heartbeat.




It's sunny and warm right now, unfortunately.

Something has got to give.

Link Posted: 3/27/2006 1:18:05 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/27/2006 1:19:35 PM EDT

Originally Posted By SoCalJBT:

Originally Posted By California_Kid:

Rain is due to start falling within the next several hours. That will stop the protests in a heartbeat.




It's sunny and warm right now, unfortunately.

Something has got to give.




SoCal,

I think I speak for all of Arfcom when I say - please unleash some jackbooted thuggary on said vermin. We promise not to make fun of ya'll in any way. No "is the dog o.k." comments will be made. Feel free to bash away.

Link Posted: 3/27/2006 1:22:30 PM EDT

Originally Posted By happycynic:

SoCal,

I think I speak for all of Arfcom when I say - please unleash some jackbooted thuggary on said vermin. We promise not to make fun of ya'll in any way. No "is the dog o.k." comments will be made. Feel free to bash away.




You have no idea how much we want to do just that.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 1:23:29 PM EDT

Originally Posted By j-fonz:
It is clear that they want Texas to be a bigger state.



Hmm...I hadn't thought of that...a chance to get New Mexico, Arizona, and most of the ski resorts in Colorado back? Cool.
Link Posted: 3/27/2006 1:29:40 PM EDT
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