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Posted: 3/26/2006 1:32:57 PM EDT
[#1]
Wait until you have to fight side by side with these fucktards.
If Iran gets jumpy and does something insanely stupid - you can expect a draft. |
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Posted: 3/26/2006 1:37:42 PM EDT
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 You aren't playing by the rules TJ. |
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Posted: 3/26/2006 1:41:13 PM EDT
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Excellent post Paul. Don't forget loving only the parts of the Constitution you agree with. |
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Posted: 3/26/2006 1:42:06 PM EDT
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Yes they are. Why? When I ws a kid we all played together, the moms stayed home and there were kids everywhere. With rare exceptions the kids listened to and respected the adults as well as the property of others. We had block parties, everyone looked out for one another etc. Anymore the scum quotient is way up. Plenty of losers who don't do their share, don't give a shit about others, their property, on whatever they want as instant gratification in their quest for the ultimate inself-indulgent. Their brats are obnoxious, on 3 different meds to control them unsuccessfully, and what adult wants to listen to shit from an obnoxious 8 year old. You have dirtbags selling drugs out of their home down the block and even if you call the popo they won't do a fucking thing. But if YOU do anything, anything at all, they will come and haul your ass in. Now who in the Hell would wnat to deal with that shit. Easier to just keep to yourself. If guilty is finding others of my own species lacking in morals, ethics, intelligence and common decency, then I am. Guilty that is. And you know something, I am far happier since I moved out in the boonies and keep to myself. The number of people I am interested in having to my home I can count on 2 hands and feet, mostly all family. As for myself, yeah I can be abrasive due to my impatience with others but I don't lie, cheat, steal, manipulate others or stab people in the fucking back. EVER. And I guess it is just too damn much to expect from others. Rather these are talents that seem to be held in high regard anymore to the detriment of all. I wouldn't really call it hate, more a profound disappointment in what the human race has lowered itself to. So yeah, I don't want to be around most others. However, in contrast to many of you, I would enjoy hanging out with ARFCOMMERS(1/2 of you anyway ) but there are none around here.
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Posted: 3/26/2006 1:42:40 PM EDT
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If Iran? If Iran? WTF do you think the Bush administration just ordered 2 giga billion more JDAMs for? Not tiddly winks, friend. We WILL invade Iran and more innocent American brothers, wives, mothers, and fathers will be slaughtered in the name of protecting the towel heads. A good spread of nukes would do the trick without a single brave American soldier dying in the process. It could all be done from 20,000 feet. |
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Posted: 3/26/2006 2:40:00 PM EDT
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During/after Vietnam.
People have become soft, pampered, taught to expect instant gratification. The idea of any REAL hardship is beyond them. That leads to contempt and a willingness to simply say "fuck you" to anyone and anything that doesn't fit their idea of "perfect". I've lead a charmed life and have never really wanted for much of anything, but my parents taught me well and I understand what they went through in the Depression and beyond (Dad was at Pearl Harbor on Dec 7 and spent the entire war in the Pacific). Between that and my being a history buff, I KNOW just how fucking cushy things are in this country compared to the way it has been but many (most) of our citizens have never known or have forgotten the Hard Times that have come before. I will get worse before it gets better. I see the economy becoming more a house of cards/shell game than ever before. The DISGUST that those on BOTH sides feel for the cockroaches that infest our government is growing day by day. I love my country and I DETEST the current state of politics and perverted legal system that is taking us closer to the brink every day. I'm very firmly in drjarhead's camp on this one. It's going to get FAR more ugly before it gets better. |
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Posted: 3/26/2006 2:47:46 PM EDT
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I hear ya bud. Hopefully I will be counted on the "good half" of who you call friends here on ARFCOM... |
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Posted: 3/26/2006 2:52:19 PM EDT
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Airwolf, so very true. This is why I have been doing google searches lately on turning chicken and pig crap into fuel. I don't currently have chickens pigs horses and cows, but I'll probably have some WHEN the shit hits the fan...no pun intended... |
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Posted: 3/26/2006 3:13:50 PM EDT
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hippies
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Posted: 3/26/2006 3:25:03 PM EDT
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Don't worry; life will hit him harder than you ever could. |
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Posted: 3/26/2006 3:32:32 PM EDT
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Late 60's |
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Posted: 3/26/2006 3:39:04 PM EDT
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If a countries worth living in, it's worth fighting for…
If it's worth fighting for, it's worth dying for… If you don't think it's worth dying for then you should leave… ANdy |
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Posted: 3/26/2006 3:43:50 PM EDT
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that would take conviction.. |
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Posted: 3/26/2006 3:46:51 PM EDT
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Except for Rugby...  Hey, I'm a Kiwi and just trying to lighten the mood. Actually, I don't remember the last time I enjoyed a serious thread this much. I chose to live here for the same reasons people came here hundreds of years ago, most of it centers around the opportunity for hope. Fewer and fewer places offer the same amount of hope that the U.S. provides today. Regardless of the fact that we are at war things still seem to be attainable - houses, cars, lifestyle or what ever. I have had the good fortune to be able to live in several countries over the course of the last 25 years and am thankful that the U.S. has allowed me the opportunity to send my two girls to college, to buy my 1964 GMC pickup, to have a boat with a 496 cubic inch engine, to take my wife to dinner on a regular basis, to own my choice of guns and use them whenever I want, to be able to choose my religion...or not, to get up in the morning and know that whatever I do that day is my choice. It doesn't come down to one person, (i.e. the President), it comes down to all of us... |
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Posted: 3/26/2006 3:49:31 PM EDT
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When did people forget that you can love your country without blindly agreeing with everything the government does?
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Posted: 3/26/2006 3:54:50 PM EDT
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and I HATE YOU!!!!......  ........j/k
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Posted: 3/26/2006 3:55:15 PM EDT
[#18]
Yup. I'd say the point at which the country turned over was '68. Based on what I remember anyhow. |
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Posted: 3/26/2006 3:56:47 PM EDT
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I haven't.
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Posted: 3/26/2006 3:58:04 PM EDT
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Break - yeah, I've taken more than a few from here but sort of grown numb to the level of hatred displayed. Sheltered life? I spent close to 24 years in the USN and have travelled the world several times over, and seen things that would make a grown man puke this guts out. A guy who's chest has been chewed open by a dough machine is one man who's death impacts his families and friends. A guy who's been cut in half at the waist who hangs on until his mother arrives from the US is disheartening and sad, no mother should have to bury half her son while the fish in Hong Kong bay eat the rest. The saddening thing about the bigots here is that there are so many of them - like a cancer that destroys the United States. The level of hatred here is among the worst things I've seen as it's so wide spread - people here are not afraid of displaying their bigotry here on the Internet. In person people are more civil but here you can get a look beneith the surface. Hundreds of examples of truely ingornant and some stupid people displaying their hatred of America and Americans. This is suppose to be a Christian nation - the religion of love thy neighbor. The one lesson I learned in the couple of dozen countries and dozen states that I've lived in is that people are people - black, white, yellow, brown, Christian, Buddhist, rich, and poor, whatever. When the popular thing to do was to hate the Soviets I met several of them - just people. There are good and bad people of every color, creed, religion, and national origin. With too many people here it's just as easy to hate. As an examples from just yesterday: "Starting to understand why the red states pray for tsunamis and earthquakes are you?" "I don't know about hurricanes, but I've asked for The Big One to hit Kali more than once." We love the hate. IIRC my post 5,000 was an ode to the level of hatred here - and that was years and years ago and little has change. There are lots of wonderful people here no doubt and don't get me wrong - they are in the majority but the losers are too many. |
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Posted: 3/26/2006 4:00:07 PM EDT
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I guess everyone who bitched about Clinton, hated our country.....and everyone who bitches about Bush, hates our country...........so we ALL hate our country?....me, I just hate the politicians |
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Posted: 3/26/2006 4:01:30 PM EDT
[#22]
Damn, Dr.....I wasn't even a shitstain in '68...... 
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Posted: 3/26/2006 4:04:57 PM EDT
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1968
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Posted: 3/26/2006 4:08:14 PM EDT
[#24]
That would be my guess...........1968 |
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Posted: 3/26/2006 4:14:56 PM EDT
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Probably as true a statement as you can get. Much easier to show your true feelings when no-one is standing in front of you. |
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Posted: 3/26/2006 4:18:43 PM EDT
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I'll try to clue you in a little. I was 10. Normally, kids that age don't pay much attn but the 60's were different and I was raised to pay attn to current events. We actually discussed them regularly, me and my Dad. Viet Nam War Assassinations up the ass Protests left and right Kent State Race Riots in numerous cities Civil unrest on an unheard of level LBJ  Great Society--true birth of the welfare state Breakdown of the family And the beginning of the crime wave that we are still dealing with And the good stuff: Some awesome music and some really hot women Space Race Technological innovation at a tremendous pace I got to see it all change. In all honesty, I would say the assassination of JFK was the true turning point. The beginning. By '68 the 3rd American Revolution was lost. I doubt you will ever see anything like it. It sure wasn't boring. But it led to the 70's, one of the most dismal decades ever. Thanks to the Socialists and their succes in indoctrination they simply wore down conservatives who just seemed to give up and hand over the reins. It wasn't good. They could have fought early and won. Same mistake Americans have always made. Same mistake we may be making now. |
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Posted: 3/26/2006 4:20:18 PM EDT
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http://www.marxist.com/1968/ http://www.historyguide.org/europe/lecture15.html http://socialistalternative.org/literature/france68/ http://historicaltextarchive.com/sections.php?op=viewarticle&artid=161 http://www.gfsnet.org/msweb/sixties/frenchstudentprotests.htm 1968 was a big year for socialists. |
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Posted: 3/26/2006 4:21:39 PM EDT
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In the 1960s. By then, the subversives had an opportunity to worm their way into the educational system, spread their poison, and raise a new generation of "thinkers", their way. One of the methods espoused by the Fabian society is to get into the educational system where they can "mold young minds." They started very slightly in the 1940s, spread more in the 1950s and were in full swing in the 1960s. Though Viet Nam wasn't a cause, it was a convenient rallying point.
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Posted: 3/26/2006 4:24:55 PM EDT
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Yeah....and the 80's rolled around and Reagan took office and we retook our place at the head of the table.(and we are still there) That's how I view it. I'm sorry that y'all think it is a bad time. I personally think today was the best day in American history, and tomorrow will be better. In no way is it perfect, but we ARE better today than at any time in history. It must suck to be y'all. 
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Posted: 3/26/2006 4:25:00 PM EDT
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I see you've been paying attention, but you missed a big one: Customers hate vendors (Ammoman, Natchez, Botach, etc, etc, etc). |
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Posted: 3/26/2006 4:27:09 PM EDT
[#31]
I tried a few times.
"And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold." -Jesus Christ
It ain't just here bud. Joining the Marines in the 70s, and seeing some of the country from that view, was a truly illuminating experience. I could tell more than a few stories also. I have told some of them here.
Yeah, the site has changed a lot in the past few years. Some good, GD has sure gotten interesting. But I'm no saint, nor do I claim to be. I try to be a good person and expect the same of others. In that I have been woefully disappointed. As such I keep to myslef and come here a lot. At least there are some people with whom I have some things in common. I've lived in Kali Bro. I could never live there again. For whatever that's worth. You are a decent guy. One of the finer here. Don't let it get you down. Try to elevate others to your level. Don't waste your time on me though, I am a lost cause. 
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Posted: 3/26/2006 4:27:09 PM EDT
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There is a difference between disagreeing with your country's chosen policy and hating your country. Those that don't know the difference are scum.
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Posted: 3/26/2006 4:33:39 PM EDT
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Yeah, I don't know how we can avoid it. I hope I am wrong but....
Undoubtedly. I truly wish I could meet more of you guys. |
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Posted: 3/26/2006 4:35:40 PM EDT
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It's never been cool.
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Posted: 3/26/2006 4:35:56 PM EDT
[#35]
The 1960's. That's when it happened.
There have been 3 crucial, and traumatic injuries to this country: 1. The Civil War (which was set in motion by a birth defect of this country) 2. The Great Depression, which stemmed from economic ignorance that has been remedied 3. The Sixties and institutionalization of leftist ideas in America. Gladly, their ideas seem to have no legs and the young people not interested or climbing onto a sinking ship in significant numbers. But make no mistake, their stupid ideas need stakes driven through their hearts one by one. I think we are winning on that. |
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Posted: 3/26/2006 4:42:08 PM EDT
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Naa, one day you will wake up in a good mood and post something positive. and it might become my sig line.....just so I can remind you of it everyday.
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Posted: 3/26/2006 4:45:07 PM EDT
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We swung the pendulum a little ways back to the right but not that much. While there were gains, even under Reagan we still lost ground in some ways. Since this is a gunsite, if you look at guns we lost in the 86 MG ban while FOPA helped us some. In '89 Bush Sr put the coupe de gras on the '68 GCA, traitorous bastard he was. Under Clinton we lost more ground. At the heart of it, at the heart of our losses is the destruction of the family. That has worsened, not gotten better. Until we put that back togehter the rest will not resolve. That and the socialist takeover of the education system. That is profound. I doubt whether most anyone alive realizes the impact of that one. The NEA is a communist organization, plain and simple. I grew up with my sister who is a teacher. She lived with my wife and I for 2 years while in college. To hear the communist NEA indoctrinated bullshit she spews now is incredible. I know plenty more teachers. Most are 60's rejects or were indoctrinated by them.
I really like me. But I am a realist and I see the direction we have come and where we are heading. Yes, many things are changing for the better but not enough and all the while Republicans are betraying this country with their border policy. I truly hope you are correct and I am wrong but the direction we are heading seems unsustainable to me with regards to this nation's fiscal health, security and social well being. Yeah, the pendulum may have swung some to the right but the overall trend is for it to swing further each time to the left. We will see. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst. |
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Posted: 3/26/2006 4:47:31 PM EDT
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You're not reading all my posts now are you....? 
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Posted: 3/26/2006 4:55:42 PM EDT
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I want something so out of character it really sticks out. Something like....OMFG y'all will never guess what happened. One of my patients, who I thought was a scumbag drug addict, gave me a legally owned MP5. Yeah.....something like that. 
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Posted: 3/26/2006 4:59:15 PM EDT
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The government and the country are not the same thing.
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Posted: 3/26/2006 5:00:36 PM EDT
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Oh, the white folks hate the black folks,
And the black folks hate the white folks. To hate all but the right folks Is an old established rule. But during National Brotherhood Week, National Brotherhood Week, Lena Horne and Sheriff Clarke are dancing cheek to cheek. It's fun to eulogize The people you despise, As long as you don't let 'em in your school. Oh, the poor folks hate the rich folks, And the rich folks hate the poor folks. All of my folks hate all of your folks, It's American as apple pie. But during National Brotherhood Week, National Brotherhood Week, New Yorkers love the Puerto Ricans 'cause it's very chic. Step up and shake the hand Of someone you can't stand. You can tolerate him if you try. Oh, the Protestants hate the Catholics, And the Catholics hate the Protestants, And the Hindus hate the Moslems, And everybody hates the Jews. But during National Brotherhood Week, National Brotherhood Week, It's National Everyone-smile-at-one-another-hood Week. Be nice to people who Are inferior to you. It's only for a week, so have no fear. Be grateful that it doesn't last all year!
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Posted: 3/26/2006 5:20:06 PM EDT
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Let me tell you something...... If that ever happens, I will be posting some of the most positive shit you have ever seen! I've had some pretty cool pts but they don't make for good stories. It's about 50/50 most days. Let's just say that people who go to the doc all the time have a few issues and while the numbers may not be huge they make up a sizable number of visits due to the frequency with which they come in. So now, about that MP5..... LOL dude.
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Posted: 3/26/2006 5:45:37 PM EDT
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Pssst... The ports were already controlled by a foregin investment firm. Did you know that the UAE owns or partly owns many refineries in the US? Or power plants? Or a whole lot of other stuff? Probably not. Did you also know that the investment firm in the UAE was not going to change a single thing at the ports? Probably didn't know that either. All that was going to happen is the people who make the profits were going to be different. |
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Posted: 3/26/2006 5:51:17 PM EDT
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I was going to say '67.... |
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Posted: 3/26/2006 6:08:32 PM EDT
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All great change in America begins at the dinner table.
Ronald Reagan 40th president of US (1911 - 2004) Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free. Ronald Reagan 40th president of US (1911 - 2004) Talk to your kids, trust me, it makes a huge difference. You won't believe how you will influence them by explaining things to them. Listening helps helps too. I had relatives who openly discussed what was right and wrong, politics and everything under the sun. Those discussions still stick with me and have influnced and guided me through my life. My sister in law used to go to the range and shoot with me sit and talk about politics and everything else. She went to college and got a job in an goverment office, now she doesn't even want to hear the word "gun" and according to her we're a bunch of rednecks who don't know a thing about politics because we disagree with her new liberal ideals. Funny how people change. She had very little interaction from her parents and has made her own decisions based on what her co workers and bosses think. It's pretty sad. |
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Posted: 3/26/2006 6:11:35 PM EDT
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A distinction must be drawn between "my country" and the "government". They are not the same. I'll always love my country. I have seldom loved the government running or ruining my country.
The Vietnam war was when it became "tre chic" to shit on the USA. They should have respected the soldiers, loved their country, and focused their complaints on the assholes pulling the strings and fucking up the works. Kinda like today.
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Posted: 3/26/2006 6:13:03 PM EDT
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+ a million |
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Posted: 3/26/2006 6:35:18 PM EDT
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I first remember the phenomana in the late '60's
There have always been malcontents. Modern media just makes things easier for them |
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Posted: 3/26/2006 7:58:47 PM EDT
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About the same time that Carter allowed the cowards that had gone off the Canada back in.
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Posted: 3/26/2006 8:09:42 PM EDT
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Sounds like everyone who has been around is pointing at the late 60's.
Wasn't a good time for America. |
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