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Posted: 3/25/2006 2:23:09 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/25/2006 2:23:50 AM EDT by vito113]
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 2:23:45 AM EDT
Gee, what a surprise.


What a fucktard.
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 2:25:20 AM EDT
Seems we shoulda learned that aloooooong time ago. STOP SAVING THE STUPID
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 2:27:03 AM EDT
Maybe they could put him back where they found him.
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 2:29:51 AM EDT
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 2:29:59 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Rodent:
Maybe they could put him back where they found him.



Yup, send him back....Make sure there is a tattoo of an American Flag on his forehead, just in case. I don't care if he is a ZBrit...just seems like the Stars and Stripes might be a little more effective in um, letting find piece...ur um, peace.
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 2:37:34 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/25/2006 2:39:31 AM EDT by vito113]
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 2:48:24 AM EDT

Originally Posted By vito113:
Don't know if you guys can pick up this link to a TV newsreport… but if you can it will show just how totally retarded these people are!

Click on…

"Peacemaker Teams member says future military help unwelcome "

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4841480.stm



GOOD!

Now we don't have to put our boys at risk to save their stupid asses.
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 2:49:38 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Rodent:
Maybe they could put him back where they found him.



Damn you beat me to it!!!
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 2:51:22 AM EDT


Kumbaya my lord, kumbaya
Kumbaya my lord, kumbaya
Kumbaya my lord, kumbaya
Oh lord, kumbaya
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 3:03:20 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/25/2006 3:17:52 AM EDT by Bellona]
Looks like they'd like to be sent back to the chopping block, so to speak.

Show them pics of Tom Fox's battered body and then say, "Looks you guys have it all under control here, so have a good day. Peace out -- say hello to Allah for me."

ETA: What a committed Christian. Jesus gave His life for him, and a few soldiers could have died, too. What an idiot.
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 3:13:43 AM EDT
Ungrateful sack of crap.
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 3:27:37 AM EDT
I'm amused....feel sorry for the guys who went in for him. I hope non of the ops guys were hurt during the rescue of this guy.
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 3:28:09 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/25/2006 3:33:39 AM EDT by MTUSA]
A retired professor and two canucks.
They're not Christian Peace activists,
they're anti US Bush haters.
Assholes.
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 4:20:33 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Helldog40:

Originally Posted By Citabria7GCBC:
Seems we shoulda learned that aloooooong time ago. STOP SAVING THE STUPID



I agree.
We're interfering with natural selection here....



Yep!
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 4:21:54 AM EDT
Our problem is we need to send more peace activists to Baghdad.
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 4:22:59 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Nephilim:

Originally Posted By Helldog40:

Originally Posted By Citabria7GCBC:
Seems we shoulda learned that aloooooong time ago. STOP SAVING THE STUPID



I agree.
We're interfering with natural selection here....



Yep!



We need a return to Darwinism in the human species, that's for sure.
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 4:24:38 AM EDT
These assholes are really worthless pieces of shit...
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 4:27:29 AM EDT

Rescued Peace Activist did not thank soldiers who rescued him

eh, who cares? our guys did the right thing and they got some good real time experience. it's a win-win-lose situation. the libtards get their libtard creds with their scumbag shitstabbing buddies, our sof guys get specops cred with their peers, and the ragheads fucking LOSE BA-BEE!!!

if you're doing the right thing for thanks and slaps on the back, you're not really doing the right thing, right?
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 4:31:45 AM EDT

Originally Posted By hardcorps1775:
if you're doing the right thing for thanks and slaps on the back, you're not really doing the right thing, right?





Good point, but I'd be damned if I want to risk my ass to save an asshole like that.

He could have just said "Thank you", and left it at that....even if he didn't mean it.
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 4:31:54 AM EDT
why do humans continually interfear with natural selection? it really is self destructive as a species to save the weak at the expense of the strong. nowhere else do you see this in nature save for a mother defending her young.

let them go and be murdered, it's their choice and noone is forcing them.
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 4:41:19 AM EDT
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 4:54:44 AM EDT
They think they were entitled to saved by the very men & women they so dispise. These guys are no different that the pieces of crap that get my tax dollars cuz they don't feel like working. When was the last time someone on welfare said thanks to you
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 5:00:06 AM EDT

Originally Posted By hardcorps1775:
eh, who cares? our guys did the right thing and they got some good real time experience.



Well... y'can't takle all the credit...

www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20060324.wxhostagesottawa24_art_2230_3/BNStory/Front

Covert ops team worked for months in Iraq
JEFF SALLOT

From Friday's Globe and Mail

OTTAWA — The work of a secret team of Canadian soldiers, police officers, spies and diplomats in Baghdad came to a successful conclusion yesterday in a raid that rescued two Canadians and one Briton who had been held hostage for almost four months, federal officials say.

Mounties and members of a Canadian special forces unit joined British and U.S. troops, who led in the rescue.
The entire Canadian team, numbering at times more than 20, has been on the ground in Baghdad, working quietly since shortly after the kidnappings on Nov. 26.

In addition to members of the RCMP and the military's special forces, the team included diplomats and intelligence officers, Foreign Affairs Minister Peter MacKay said.

"We were there with our very best," Mr. MacKay said in an interview. "We had everyone fully engaged in this operation from Day 1."

The extraordinary effort, he said, sends a message: "Canada should not [be], and is not passive when it comes to its own citizens and the protection of their lives."

British troops led the final phase of the delicate operation that unfolded yesterday morning in a neighbourhood in Baghdad.

The international team found Canadians James Loney, 41, Harmeet Singh Sooden, 33, and Briton Norman Kember, 74, in a building. They were bound. Their captors were not around.

Mr. MacKay said joy at the rescue was tempered by the fact that the operation came too late to save the life of one of the hostages, American Tom Fox. His body was found two weeks ago.

All four men came to Baghdad last year to work for a pacifist organization, the Christian Peacemakers Team. They were taken hostage by a group demanding the release of Iraqi prisoners held by U.S. forces.

Mr. MacKay said yesterday's rescue involved close co-operation between the governments of Britain, the United States and Iraq. The final raid was led by the British.

Canadian intelligence officers involved at various times included specialists from the Canadian Security Intelligence Service and the Communications Security Establishment, a secretive branch of the Defence Department that intercepts international telecommunications.

The Foreign Affairs Department combed its ranks to find staff who had experience with these types of situations, The Canadian Press reported. They dispatched a team in early December that included foreign officers, workers from the Jordanian embassy and some RCMP officers.

That team stayed in Baghdad through Christmas and into this year.

Liberal MP Dan McTeague, a former parliamentary secretary responsible for Canadians abroad, said the group discreetly made inquiries around Baghdad about the disappearance.

They also communicated again and again that the hostages were Canadian, they were humanitarian workers and that Canada was not party to the war.

"This was a remarkable international effort involving our allies, the Americans, the British and the Iraqis," Mr. MacKay said. "This is certainly a great day for Canadians."
But the new Conservative government is keeping a tight lid on operational details on the advice of federal security experts. They warn that talk of Canadian military activity in Iraq can make Canadians targets for terrorists.

The security experts also say that they want to keep techniques secret that might be needed again if another rescue operation ever has to be mounted.

Prime Minister Stephen Harper hinted broadly at Canadian military involvement at a news conference earlier in the day. "I'm not free to say more than that because of national security." He also denied a suggestion that any ransom had been paid. "Not that I'm aware of."

Now that the hostages are free, the Canadians will pack up and leave the Iraqi capital, he said.

U.S. military officers in Baghdad said the big break in the case came when the coalition got information early yesterday from a prisoner about the location of the hostages. The raid took place three hours later.

Mr. Harper said that with the time differences, he got a call in the early morning hours in Ottawa that the hostages were free. He spoke with the two Canadians by phone and they were elated. The men have obviously been through an ordeal and are going to continue to face post-traumatic difficulties, he said. Mr. Harper said he suggested to the men that they get a hot bath and lots of sleep in the next few days.

The Christian Peacemakers Team was operating in Baghdad despite travel warnings from Ottawa and other governments that Iraq is a war zone that is not safe for foreigners.

With a report from Michael Den Tandt
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 5:00:07 AM EDT

Originally Posted By piccolo:

Originally Posted By hardcorps1775:
if you're doing the right thing for thanks and slaps on the back, you're not really doing the right thing, right?



Good point, but I'd be damned if I want to risk my ass to save an asshole like that.

He could have just said "Thank you", and left it at that....even if he didn't mean it.


oh fuck yeah! but there's no accounting for breeding. he's an asshole.

but you know what, i bet the sof guys don't even remeber this fucktards name. to them, he was an objective, part of the mission they ordered to conduct, and as soon as it was successfully completed, they were probably thinking of something more important, like a shower and a cold brew!

besides, it ain't like the rest of us are ungrateful for their efforts!
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 5:01:01 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/25/2006 5:12:29 AM EDT by PeteCO]

Originally Posted By vito113:
Don't know if you guys can pick up this link to a TV newsreport… but if you can it will show just how totally retarded these people are!

Click on…

"Peacemaker Teams member says future military help unwelcome "

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4841480.stm



What a bunch of fucking scumbags. I should be so lucky as to ever run into those fuckups. They might find my reaction to them.....a negative experience.

I'm glad I don't have to go through life with such shame as they.
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 7:04:27 AM EDT
Hmmm, where are all the liberal wannabees who were calling some of us unfeeling assholes for not caring whether the peace fucks got wasted or not?

They show their true colors, fuck 'em, let 'em die.....

This is why I don't care if these assholes come back alive or not...

Traitors and scumbags....
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 7:57:03 AM EDT

Whether they were thanked by the hostages themselves i don't know but the organization did thank them.



Kember returning to UK amid row

The hostages' release sparked celebrations
Freed British hostage Norman Kember is returning home - to a row over whether he thanked the soldiers who saved him.
Peace campaigner Mr Kember, 74, of Pinner, London, was kidnapped in Iraq last November. He and two Canadian hostages were rescued on Thursday.

Head of the British Army, Gen Sir Mike Jackson, said he was "saddened" there did not seem to be any gratitude.

Christian Peacemaker Teams, the group all three men were campaigning for, insisted it had thanked the soldiers.

And Pat Kember, the campaigner's wife, said: "I am overjoyed that Norman is free to come home and I am very grateful for all those who have helped secure his release."

Mr Kember spent the night in Kuwait, and is due to land at Heathrow Airport in London later.

'Bewildered'

Sir Mike told Channel 4 News on Friday: "I'm slightly saddened that there doesn't seem to be a note of gratitude for the soldiers who risked their lives to save those lives.

We are grateful to the soldiers who risked their lives to free Jim, Norman and Harmeet

Christian Peacemaker Teams

"I hope he has and I've missed it."

But Jonathan Bartley, a UK spokesman for Christian Peacemaker Teams (CPT), told the BBC he was "deeply surprised" and "bewildered" that the soldiers believed they had not been thanked.

"It is a matter of public record and has been widely reported that Christian Peacemakers have expressed great gratitude to the soldiers who rescued him."

Gratitude

The CPT released a statement on Thursday after the rescue of Mr Kember, James Loney, 41, and Harmeet Singh Sooden, 32, thanking the troops.

It said: "We are grateful to the soldiers who risked their lives to free Jim, Norman and Harmeet.

The men were able to walk around while held captive

"As peacemakers who hold firm to our commitment to non-violence, we are also deeply grateful that they fired no shots to free our colleagues."

Jan Benvie, also from CPT, told BBC News she intends to go to Iraq in July.

She said she did not accept her presence should mean an extra responsibility for the security forces.

Mr Kember said he had enjoyed a shave, a bath and a "good English breakfast" since returning to freedom.

The two Canadians were due to leave Iraq on Saturday.

They were due to arrive in Dubai at 1730 local time before making their way back to Canada, CPT said.

'Courage'


The rescue followed a weeks-long operation led by British troops and involving US and Canadian special forces, and information gleaned from two detainees just three hours before the rescue.

US citizen Tom Fox, kidnapped at the same time on 26 November in Baghdad, was found shot dead earlier this month.

His three colleagues did not find out he was dead until after their release, according to CPT, which also said the men had not been bound during captivity.

They were not given much food but Mr Kember had received medicine he needed.

Prime Minister Tony Blair, attending an EU summit in Brussels, paid tribute to the "extraordinary courage and dedication" of the British, American, Iraqi and Canadian forces involved in the rescue operation.

Foreign Secretary Jack Straw urged people planning to undertake humanitarian work in Iraq to think again, saying there was a real risk of being kidnapped or killed.

Between 10 and 40 Iraqis are kidnapped every day - often children snatched on their way to school and held for a ransom of between £3,000 and £30,000.


Link Posted: 3/25/2006 8:27:22 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/25/2006 8:32:38 AM EDT by John_Wayne777]
You all should go to the little peacenicks' website and read their statement.

They thanked God for the rescue of their buddies, and then proceeded to call the Iraq war "illegal" and a violation of "human rights", etc.

Lemme see if I can find it....

Here we go. Some choice bits:



Harmeet, Jim and Norman and Tom were in Iraq to learn of the struggles facing the people in that country. They went, motivated by a passion for justice and peace to live out a nonviolent alternative in a nation wracked by armed conflict. They knew that their only protection was in the power of the love of God and of their Iraqi and international co-workers. We believe that the illegal occupation of Iraq by Multinational Forces is the root cause of the insecurity which led to this kidnapping and so much pain and suffering in Iraq. The occupation must end."



Notice, my friends, how Sadaam and his regime of torture and brutality are not responsible for any of this. Nope, it is the guys who are over there fighting FOR the Iraqi's who are to blame for all this.




With Tom’s death, we felt the grief of losing a beloved friend. Today, we rejoice that our friends Harmeet, Jim and Norman have been freed safely. We continue to pray for a swift and joyful homecoming for the many Iraqis and internationals who long to be reunited with their families. We renew our commitment to work for an end to the war and the occupation of Iraq as a way to continue the witness of Tom Fox. We trust in God’s compassionate love to show us the way.



What about the Iraqis that will never come home thanks to the suicide bombers and Sadaam loyalists who are blowing up mosques and the like to try and cause civil war so that THEY can be absolute ruler??? What about the lives THEY have damaged?

These people don't even know who in blue hell the friggin enemy IS.

They DIDN'T thank the soldiers, as their own addendum to the above press release demonstrates:



We have been so overwhelmed and overjoyed to have Jim, Harmeet and Norman freed, that we have not adequately thanked the people involved with freeing them, nor remembered those still in captivity. So we offer these paragraphs as the first of several addenda:

We are grateful to the soldiers who risked their lives to free Jim, Norman and Harmeet. As peacemakers who hold firm to our commitment to nonviolence, we are also deeply grateful that they fired no shots to free our colleagues. We are thankful to all the people who gave of themselves sacrificially to free Jim, Norman, Harmeet and Tom over the last four months, and those supporters who prayed and wept for our brothers in captivity, for their loved ones and for us, their co-workers.

We will continue to lift Jill Carroll up in our prayers for her safe return. In addition, we will continue to advocate for the human rights of Iraqi detainees and assert their right to due process in a just legal system.



As John Wayne said, out there, due process is a bullet.

But is that sufficient? Absolutely not! They turn right around and release this attrocity:



The rest of us in CPT are also grateful to all those who worked nonviolently and who prayed fervently for their release – religious leaders and soldiers, team-mates and government officials, partner organizations, friends, family, children, women and men all over the world. We are particularly grateful that no one was injured in this rescue operation.

In order not to cause Tom Fox's family further pain, and for the sake of accuracy, CPT urges that the media and everyone concerned refrain from repeating the rumour that Tom Fox was tortured.. Two CPTers, Rev. Carol Rose and Rich Meyer, viewed Tom's body and did not see signs of torture. We also have reports from two additional independent sources who examined the body more thoroughly. They also did not find evidence of torture. Until the final autopsy report is released, we ask everyone to withhold their judgement.



These people aren't Christians.

They are libtards with a Bible.


www.cpt.org/iraq/response/06-23-03statement.htm
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 9:33:57 AM EDT
Notice, my friends, how Sadaam and his regime of torture and brutality are not responsible for any of this. Nope, it is the guys who are over there fighting FOR the Iraqi's who are to blame for all this.



Yes, I do notice. The anti-war faction is truly insane. There is no other way to explain it.
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 9:38:57 AM EDT
I say give them back and let them continue their collaboration
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 9:41:22 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/25/2006 9:43:12 AM EDT by Cincinnatus]

Originally Posted By FutureWarrior:
Whether they were thanked by the hostages themselves i don't know but the organization did thank them.


Perhaps the fact that the organization ALSO devotes so much time to describing the military in Iraq as "Criminal", it's hard to accept their "thanks" as sincere.

They should have dropped these "Peacemakers" off in downtown Fallujah or Ramadi.
See if they can make some peace there.
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 9:46:17 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Cincinnatus:

Originally Posted By FutureWarrior:
Whether they were thanked by the hostages themselves i don't know but the organization did thank them.


Perhaps the fact that the organization ALSO devotes so much time to describing the military in Iraq as "Criminal", it's hard to accept their "thanks" as sincere.

They should have dropped these "Peacemakers" off in downtown Fallujah or Ramadi.
See if they can make some peace there.


They said their "thanks," after a "firestorm of criticism" only because they had to.
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 9:51:28 AM EDT
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 11:25:28 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Cincinnatus:
Perhaps the fact that the organization ALSO devotes so much time to describing the military in Iraq as "Criminal", it's hard to accept their "thanks" as sincere.

They should have dropped these "Peacemakers" off in downtown Fallujah or Ramadi.
See if they can make some peace there.



Indeed, when one strips away all the silly "Jesus" talk from their statement, what you find is a group of people who blame people like Cincinnatus for the kidnappings and the murder of Tom Foxe. They blame people like Cincinnatus and Rusted_Ace for war crimes and "illegal" actions against "innocent" Iraqis, and who blame people like Cincinnatus and Rusted_Ace for the killings and mass murders going on over there.

Everything, according to these idiots, was just peachy keen before the big meanies like the Marines got involved.

They refuse to put responsibility on the people who are constructing bombs and using them to blow up Mosques to create civil war.

They refuse to put responsibility on the people who are seeking to sieze absolute power for their own personal enrichment.

They refuse to put responsibility on the people who conduct attacks against the US military from populated centers in the hopes that US military response will kill un-involved people.

They refuse to blame the people who actually kidnapped them and shot their friend and who have beheaded others on video tape, preferring to cluck their tongues and wag their fingers and vent their dissapproval of the very people who risked their ass to go in and save them.

They are absolute idiots. They are not "peace activists". They are not "Christians". They are silly frivolous people who posess no sense of history, no sense of proportion, no sense of honor, no sense of decency. They are narcissists of the highest order who try to wrap their political motives and preferences in the veil of moral superiority.

They are actively resisting the efforts of the Iraqi government and the United States Military to try and stop the murdering savages who are trying to plunge the whole nation into war.

They are not "serving" the Iraqi people. They are serving THEMSELVES and giving vent to their narcissistic world view. They posess no humility or analytical ability, but that does not stop them from trying to insert themselves into world events to effect "change", which if allowed will lead to the death and enslavement of millions.

Link Posted: 3/25/2006 11:35:03 AM EDT
General Oders No. 2006.17: Peace Activist Hostages

Under no circumstances should any rescue effort be attempted.
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 1:53:10 PM EDT
Dude, after months of confinement, being fed crap and threatened with death, and having my buds killed off one by one, I would be sucking the cock of the first allied soldier I saw.

Money, college, wife, kidney, whatever, you name it, I'd be fookin' grateful enough to give anything I had in thanks after such an ordeal.

...........................or at least I would say "Thanks."



Maybe these peaceniks were not so much kidnapped as they were hanging with their allies.
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 1:55:36 PM EDT
Are you suprised? The Axx munch probably blaimes us for him being taken captive.

Next he'll come out with some BS storey about how hostile the rescue team was on the terrorists holding him hostage.
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 2:27:11 PM EDT
Put him back.
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 2:30:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/25/2006 2:31:50 PM EDT by hockeysmile]
this falls under my favorite new term for libtard behavior

DOUCHEBAGERY
Link Posted: 3/25/2006 7:05:17 PM EDT
He's thanked them.

The Beeb

Freed Kember thanks rescue troops



Freed hostage Norman Kember has thanked the soldiers who rescued him from kidnappers in Iraq after being reunited with his wife Pat at Heathrow airport.
But the peace campaigner - criticised earlier for apparently failing to thank the rescuers - restated his opposition to foreign troops in the country.

He also said he needed to reflect on whether he was "foolhardy or rational" to have gone to Iraq last year.

Mr Kember, 74, of Pinner, London, and two Canadians were held for 117 days.

Tribute paid

Reading from a hand-written statement, Mr Kember said he was not ready to speak about his experience "except to say that I am delighted to be free and reunited with my family".

"In reality it was my wife who was kidnapped last November," he added.

It is the ordinary people of Iraq that you should be talking to - who have suffered so much

"She suffered more than I because while I knew that I was alive and well, she did not."

On Friday, head of the British Army, Gen Sir Mike Jackson, said he was "saddened" there did not seem to be any gratitude after the rescue of Mr Kember, James Loney, 41, and Harmeet Singh Sooden, 32.

However, Christian Peacemaker Teams, the group all three men were campaigning for, insisted it had thanked the soldiers and Mrs Kember said she was "very grateful".

Speaking at a VIP lounge at Heathrow in the company of his wife, Mr Kember said: "I do not believe that a lasting peace is achieved by armed force, but I pay tribute to their courage and thank those who played a part in my rescue."

He went on to thank those of many faiths who had appealed and prayed for him, as the British officials who had worked for his release.

Emotional reunion

Mr Kember arrived in London at 1222 GMT on a scheduled British Airways flight from Kuwait.

He waved to a small group of neighbours as he returned to his house about two hours later but made no comment.

The rescue on Thursday followed an operation led by British troops and involving US and Canadian special forces, and information gleaned from two detainees just three hours before the rescue.


Mr Kember spent the night in Kuwait before flying to the UK

US citizen Tom Fox, kidnapped along with the freed men on 26 November in Baghdad, was found shot dead earlier this month.

His three colleagues did not find out he was dead until after their release, according to CPT. It said the men had not been bound during their captivity.

They were not given much food but Mr Kember had received medicine he needed.

Campaign continues

Anas Altikriti, from the Muslim Association of Britain who travelled to Iraq in December, to try to secure the hostages' release, said: "I, as well as countless people around the world, am extremely relieved that Norman is back home."

Mr Kember's church, meanwhile, has said UK authorities gave an assurance the men would not be rescued unless they were reasonably confident no-one would be killed.


The men were able to walk around while held captive

"We were impressed by the sensitivity with which it responded to our concerns about any possible use of force in any rescue attempt," said the Rev Bob Gardiner, of Harrow Baptist Church.

The Foreign Office and the Ministry of Defence would not comment on whether any such promises were made.

The two Canadians left Iraq on Saturday.

Despite the kidnappings, another CPT member, Jan Benvie has told BBC News she intends to go to the country in July.

She said she did not accept her presence should mean an extra responsibility for the security forces.


NTM
Link Posted: 3/26/2006 10:39:14 AM EDT
Link Posted: 3/26/2006 11:56:22 AM EDT
When you apologize, that isn't the time to criticize. Might as well not apologize at all. Fuck him. If that ungrateful bastard thinks he's got the keys to heaven....he's got another thing coming.
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