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Posted: 3/23/2006 11:00:31 PM EDT
[Kosh]And so it begins...[/Kosh]


www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=5501f310-6fc9-4024-aea7-9d3741effbb3&k=64917


Tax junk food to fight obesity: CMA head


Dennis Bueckert, The Canadian Press
Published: Wednesday, March 22, 2006

OTTAWA -- Junk food should be taxed to combat the epidemic of childhood obesity, says Dr. Ruth Collins-Nakai, president of the Canadian Medical Association.

Collins-Nakai, a cardiologist who works with young people, says Canada has the second-highest rate of pre-school obesity in the world, after China.

"Healthy choices should be cheaper and more readily available,'' she said after a speech Wednesday to the Canadian Club.

"The corollary is that you make unhealthy choices less available and one way to do that is to tax them. Certainly it works for cigarettes.''

Her comments go beyond a resolution passed at the CMA's last general meeting, which called on governments to ban junk food sales at all schools in Canada.

Bill Jeffery of the Centre for Science in the Public Interest said many health organizations have already called for a fat tax, including the World Health Organization.

"She's in good company,'' he said.

Collins-Nakai said children's health is being forgotten at a time of increasing baby-boomer demands on the health system.

Canada now ranks in the bottom third of OECD countries for child mortality, while as recently as the 1980s it ranked in the top third, she said.

"This decline is a national disgrace. We simply must do more for child health.''

Collins-Nakai also used her Canadian Club appearance to comment on the controversy over public versus private health care.

She said the CMA has drawn up a list of principles that should be applied to both sectors. The principles include timely access, equity, choice, comprehensiveness, quality and efficiency, but there's no reference to the Canada Health Act.

The CMA supports the Conservative government's promise to establish "care guarantees'' which would allow patients to visit another jurisdiction if they cannot get timely care at home.

Collins-Nakai said she was disappointed that Alberta did not include care guarantees in its so-called third way health reform proposals.

She said the Alberta strategy could pit public-health care providers against private providers.

She also asked who will regulate Quebec's health system, following its recent reforms, to ensure quality care in the private sector.
Link Posted: 3/23/2006 11:39:54 PM EDT
Yep! That'll work....just like taxing cigarettes reduced smoking...and pumped all the money into hospitals to fight the costs of healthcare to un(der)insured smokers.

Can't wait for the new "truth" style commercials coming out about how much the Little Debbie creator was a condecending skinny bitch who got rich off of making other people fat and watching them die of heart failure while she worked out at the gym 4 times a week and laughed with her socialite friends at the plight of the poor people who spent all their money of cheap junk food.

If they can ban "junk guns"....then "junk food" can't be far behind can it?


No Expert
Link Posted: 3/23/2006 11:46:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/24/2006 12:12:53 AM EDT by yekimak]


Link Posted: 3/23/2006 11:54:42 PM EDT
The DemmyCraps will be watching this drooling at the prospect of Fuking with "big junk food corporations" , getting hard wood thinking of ways to sucker more tax money out of us for "the benifiet" of society , and their Commie lawyer buddies will "donate" tons of cash to these leaches for a shot at sueing M-Donalds , BurKnG, Taco BL. , ect. ect. ect.....

this fits socialism to a Tee , no personal responsibility for anything !!!!!
Link Posted: 3/23/2006 11:58:55 PM EDT
BLAME CANADA



it's not even a real country anyway...

--VT
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 12:02:04 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/24/2006 12:02:36 AM EDT by swingset]
Ted Kennedy would kill any such nonsense in committee.

He has personal interest in keeping bad food affordable, as he's a bulk-buyer.



Link Posted: 3/24/2006 12:16:25 AM EDT
Like the ATF needs another name change...

Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Junkfood

BATFJ?



Actuall­y, I'm not all that opposed to taxing this stuff. People need to eat more veggies and the heavy taxing of cigarettes HAS helped reduce cigarette usage.

Let the attacks begin
Mike
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 3:17:16 AM EDT
Taxation for the purposes of social engineering should be outlawed.
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 3:20:31 AM EDT
I refuse to pay a fat tax.
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 3:25:24 AM EDT
So lemme get this straight:

We should hand kids condoms but do our best to keep Doritos away from them.

Mercy. That's some "health" plan.
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 3:43:39 AM EDT
Fucking Eastern Canada..... (Well, mainly Central canada, but the whol lot of them really)

always trying to blame other stuff for problems that relate back to bad parenting, obese preschool age children? When I was that age I sure as hell did not eat anythgn that my parent's did not give me, mainly because I had no way of getting it for myself (no money, and oh yeah, I was 4 fucking years old!!!)


Next it will be soda being taxed, then meat, then we can ll live in a blissful vegetarian world until some redneck from Alberta starts beating the shit out of vegetarian politicians for banning his junk fod, soda, and red meat.... (Just because I live in Alberta and am a redneck does not necessarily mean that I woudl attack politiicians if they banned all this, it doesn't mean I wouldn't either.... )
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 3:53:45 AM EDT
Don't tax my cheesecake.

Again, it's all about personal responsibility and accountability.

Link Posted: 3/24/2006 4:01:14 AM EDT
They will have to pry my Ding-Dongs and Ho-Hos from my cold, dead, fat fingers.


Fuck them. But I bet the SAME FUCKING PEOPLE would love to have ASSISTED SUICIDE and EUTHANASIA!

Canada is a Bitch, a real big bitch, the biggest bitch in the whole wide world!

ARRRGH!!! I can't wait for the comet to hit and put an end to all this nonsense. Can we get it to hit Ottowa?
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 4:04:03 AM EDT
Tax food to fight obesity.... or build the gubmint's coffers. Whichever one you subscribe to.
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 4:05:57 AM EDT
Why don't they tax the obese people? They are the ones that cause health care to go up and the quality of living to go down. Sara Lee and Betty Crocker arn't forcing food down their mouths.

People just do not want to take responsibility for their own actions.

Grow up Canada.
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 4:15:54 AM EDT
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 4:33:21 AM EDT
It's not the junk food, it's the parents.

Send those little fat fucks outside for a change and take away their x box.
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 4:40:30 AM EDT
I think taxing junk food is a great idea. Ever watch a line of people with WIC cards buying garbage t a grocery store? It makes me sick to think they are raising their kids on crap food so that another generation of fat and lazy welfare recipients can drain the social services as they develop diabetes and high blood pressure. Then they will inevitably suffer strokes, kidney failure, etc which we get to pay for. Enough is enough.
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 4:41:17 AM EDT
I was living in Louisiana about twenty years or so ago, when either the state or local government proposed a "snack tax".

The local black activists went ballistic about it, claiming it to be yet another racist plot. Seems as though moon pies and twinkies are a staple of the local diet..

No joke, they raised hell about it.
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 4:42:02 AM EDT
I hate sin taxes.
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 4:44:52 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ClayP:
I think taxing junk food is a great idea. Ever watch a line of people with WIC cards buying garbage t a grocery store? It makes me sick to think they are raising their kids on crap food so that another generation of fat and lazy welfare recipients can drain the social services as they develop diabetes and high blood pressure. Then they will inevitably suffer strokes, kidney failure, etc which we get to pay for. Enough is enough.



Then the solution would be to restrict the WIC card to meat and potato style purchases. Taxing to try to force people to act a certain way surely hasn't worked very well in the past. Ask those white-haired guys that owned all that tea up in that harbor a while back.....


Woody
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 4:47:08 AM EDT

Originally Posted By No_Expert:
Yep! That'll work....just like taxing cigarettes reduced smoking...and pumped all the money into hospitals to fight the costs of healthcare to un(der)insured smokers.

Can't wait for the new "truth" style commercials coming out about how much the Little Debbie creator was a condecending skinny bitch who got rich off of making other people fat and watching them die of heart failure while she worked out at the gym 4 times a week and laughed with her socialite friends at the plight of the poor people who spent all their money of cheap junk food.

If they can ban "junk guns"....then "junk food" can't be far behind can it?


No Expert



Prints out reply and grabs a Cab for Madison Avenue.

This is really getting out of hand.
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 5:26:11 AM EDT
Sounds like a good idea. We certainly wouldn't want anyone actually taking responsibility for their own actions, do we? Then people would have no one to blame but themselves. That's just unacceptable!
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 5:46:42 AM EDT
That's ridiculous. Tax junk food? People are going to buy it anyway its just not going to work. Plus ... they were talking about the healthier stuff being cheaper . Oh here is a thought why not make the healtheir stuff cheaper instead of making the junk food more expensive? stupid.
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 6:43:19 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Tso-s_Chick:
That's ridiculous. Tax junk food? People are going to buy it anyway its just not going to work. Plus ... they were talking about the healthier stuff being cheaper . Oh here is a thought why not make the healtheir stuff cheaper instead of making the junk food more expensive? stupid.


It'll NEVER work! What you have posted makes way too much sense to ever be implemented!
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 7:25:49 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Tso-s_Chick:
That's ridiculous. Tax junk food? People are going to buy it anyway its just not going to work. Plus ... they were talking about the healthier stuff being cheaper . Oh here is a thought why not make the healtheir stuff cheaper instead of making the junk food more expensive? stupid.



Why don't people get off their fat asses and do something about it instead of blaming everything else but themselves for their weight problems.
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 7:30:51 AM EDT
Part of me smiles inside when a fat anti-smoker puts down his cupcake long enough to see his folly.
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 7:33:30 AM EDT
I support it. How about they cut income tax and do that instead. Instead of stealing directly out of my pocket, make me pay a little extra for something I don't need.
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 7:34:23 AM EDT

Originally Posted By xmikex:
Like the ATF needs another name change...

Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Junkfood

BATFJ?



Actuall­y, I'm not all that opposed to taxing this stuff. People need to eat more veggies and the heavy taxing of cigarettes HAS helped reduce cigarette usage.

Let the attacks begin
Mike



Then I guess you would be okay with taxing the crap out of ammo, huh.
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 7:35:53 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Trey-W:
Why don't they tax the obese people? They are the ones that cause health care to go up and the quality of living to go down. Sara Lee and Betty Crocker arn't forcing food down their mouths.

People just do not want to take responsibility for their own actions.

Grow up Canada.



Okay, that's what is being said about smokers too. Let's see, let's tax the hell out of gun owners as well. They are the ones that cause health care to go up..................
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 7:44:27 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Bellona:
Again, it's all about personal responsibility and accountability.



True.


Originally Posted By MrClean4Hire:
It's not the junk food, it's the parents.

Send those little fat fucks outside for a change and take away their x box.


Again, true. When I was younger, there was no internet, no cable TV(at least in my family) and no video games(at least in my family.) What did us kids do to pass the time? Inside activity(that didn't involve the above) and outside activity.

Originally Posted By No_Expert:


Can't wait for the new "truth" style commercials coming out about how much the Little Debbie creator was a condecending skinny bitch who got rich off of making other people fat and watching them die of heart failure while she worked out at the gym 4 times a week and laughed with her socialite friends at the plight of the poor people who spent all their money of cheap junk food.

If they can ban "junk guns"....then "junk food" can't be far behind can it?


Don't give them any ideas.

I don't even eat snack food that much, but it looks like I'll have to stock up. We'll have to get "pre-ban" Doritos, "pre-ban" M&M's, and so forth.

Taxing snack food isn't going to work. People are going to buy it anyway.
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 10:52:41 AM EDT
Fuck man, why not? They tax the shit out of cigarettes. It's about time they either bump the booze and junk food taxes to the same level, or dump the idea of a "sin tax" altogether.

BUT, that will never happen.

Why? Because there are more FAT ALCOHOLICS in the congress and senate than there are smokers.
Link Posted: 3/24/2006 11:28:32 AM EDT

Originally Posted By phatmax:
They will have to pry my Ding-Dongs and Ho-Hos from my cold, dead, fat fingers.



Keep your filthy Hos!



Fuck them. But I bet the SAME FUCKING PEOPLE would love to have ASSISTED SUICIDE and EUTHANASIA!



Assisted Suicide is nice too. Personal choice. They chose to die and you chose Ho-Hos and all is good.
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