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Link Posted: 3/23/2006 8:21:13 AM EDT
[#1]
Not that uncommon:

I've seen gas stations with card readers where you had to swipe your FL drivers license in order to buy cigarettes or alcohol, no military IDs accepted there.

Seen it confuse the hell out of wait staff and store clerks in areas that typically don't have a bunch of military running around. Most usually accepted it though. Also fun to use the CWL every once in awhile just to see the perplexed look on their face while they try to figure out what it is, always had it accepted after they study it a little bit.  

If you want to replace a lost license, the Florida DMV will not accept a military ID as a form of identification either, or least the one I'm talking about wouldn't four or five years ago.

I know of a case where a Yeoman who was in charge of making military IDs was selling fake ones on the side for $50 a pop. When he got busted he had counterfeited over 200 (these were the old green ones). Needless to say, he was in a little bit of trouble.



Link Posted: 3/23/2006 8:30:22 AM EDT
[#2]
The old .mil ID cards were easy to fudge. A guy in my guard unit added a couple of years on to all the underage guys. I don't doubt that a few dollars have been made by Admin Pouges for a "Good" Birthday over the years.

Specialist gets busted at a bar with one of the "Good" I.D.'s in a bar. Barkeep took it and called the Guard HQ. HQ did a check on I.D. birthdates verses actual birthdates in my unit. a dozen underage guys got busted with bad dates and the Clerk lost a stripe. All hands got an NJP.

They are the easiest to fake is why the .mil ID is frowned upon.
Link Posted: 3/23/2006 8:33:08 AM EDT
[#3]
Howard's Mexican Restrurant  off the list.  i will not frequent that place anymore.

i have never had a problem showing my GCID card (Geneva Conventions ID Card) anywhere I go.  The only problem is I always need to tell people that the DOB is on the back.  The finge benefit of this is I hate to ask for discounts, but showing the GCID is a good way to ask without asking
Link Posted: 3/23/2006 8:37:53 AM EDT
[#4]
My friend in the Army came back to visit this summer and he tried to use his .mil ID at a Hooters to buy a beer. He was 21 but they didnt want accept the .mil ID. He had his TX DL with him and they took that so he was able to have his beer!

I've never had a problem out of state with my CA DL being rejected.
Link Posted: 3/23/2006 8:42:08 AM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
My military ID usually gets me all the free drinks I want.

www.nightscribe.com/Military/images/c47.jpg



Mighty young looking O-6 there.
Link Posted: 3/23/2006 11:10:22 AM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Military ID is not valid ID for alcahol in NY.  I haven't seen one recently, but the last one I saw looked as if my 8 year old nephew could've made on on the PC.  They are just covering thier asses



You haven't seen one since September 11th have you?

They're as high tech as they come now with an embedded conditional access chip. Even the old ones of the last generation had holographic lamination with the DoD symbol across it ... not the easiest thing to come up with even for an 8 year old.



With the exception of the holographic image it is entirely possible for someone to purchase blank
smart cards and a card printer from one of the major computer parts supply places.
I have seen them for sale before.  "What am I buying this for?  Oh, its for membership cards
for my DVD rental business....."

Most ID checkers don't have a bar code, magnetic strip, or smart chip reader handy to swipe
said card.   So all someone really needs is to get the graphics right.  
Even the technology for the magnetic strip and to program the smart card is available right
off the shelf if someone wanted to go to that extent.  

Unfortunately it takes way too long for the DOD to implement new technologies,  I was issued a
'test' smart card in '98 and it took a couple years before they actually started widespread use as
part of the DOD ID.  The one I currently have doesn't even have anything on it, or at least doesn't
have the right data because the last time I tried using it the equipment couldn't even read it.
The last time I even swiped the damn thing was at a USO facility to go in and use the phones
even that reader only read the magnetic strip.

Just like anti-forgery devices on/in US currency, waaay behind the power curve.
Link Posted: 3/23/2006 5:28:02 PM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:

Quoted:
My military ID usually gets me all the free drinks I want.

www.nightscribe.com/Military/images/c47.jpg



Mighty young looking O-6 there.



Clearly fake.  That should be a profile and not front on photo.

The last time I got carded, Ma Danby didn't.  Didn't get any that night, maybe I shouldn't have laughed.  
Link Posted: 3/23/2006 6:28:25 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
Military ID is not valid ID for alcahol in NY.  I haven't seen one recently, but the last one I saw looked as if my 8 year old nephew could've made on on the PC.  They are just covering thier asses



He could have made the new military ID with the optical strip on the front and back (two different types), the mag strip on the back, and the smart chip on it (same basic thing as the SIM card on GSM phones, mine was made the the same company that does make many of the SIM cards)?  Plus  second B&W picture on the back, all of which are printed on the plastic card itself, and not onto paper that's been laminated. And of course the hologram on the front.

The older ones were easier to fake, but hell, how many state licenses are just as easy or easier?  Probably most if not all.  My Washington license looks like it would be easier.  No need to buy the blank smart cards.  My Virginia one was even easier than Washingtons.  Somewhere I have a slightly out of date book on various ID's  Almost all of them are eaiser to fake than the current military ID just because there is no smart card needed.

The argument about the guard clerk making faked ones is pretty lame IMO.  You could have a DMV/MVA/whatever your state calls it, making ID's with fake birthdays just as easily.  Probably easier, since I bet that there is less oversight to it.

Not taking a passport is just as lame.  It's good enough to get back in the country, but not to buy a beer?  I know that the Customs and Border agents are used to seeing them, and hopefully have training in what real versus fakes look like, but it seems asinine.

I guess though that's why many places only accept a single form of ID, so they can get used to them and what the real ones look like.  Washington is one of the states that have two forms of DL's, vertical for under 21, and horizontal for over.  Many places refuse to accept the vertical ones as proof even of the bearer is over 21.  Not sure if they'd accept a non-drivers license ID though.
Link Posted: 3/23/2006 6:29:53 PM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
My military ID usually gets me all the free drinks I want.

www.nightscribe.com/Military/images/c47.jpg


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