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Posted: 3/22/2006 8:46:00 AM EDT
WTF happend to the DVD's? When?
I have always beeen so pissed that STNG DVD season box ses have been $110 a pop or so, while all other TV shows are in the $30-$50 range. I just went to BJ's Wholesale club and thought I hit a mismarked gold mine. They had Seasons 1, 2 and 3 for $47.99. I bought all three. Then I got home and looked it up online and the prices dropped all over the net to about $55 a season for only 1, 2, 3. I would have bought them anyway, but I thought BJ's made a mistake.  When did the prices drop? Why the heck are the rest of the seasons still $110? |
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Posted: 3/22/2006 8:52:41 AM EDT
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That show is so OLD looking now........
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Posted: 3/22/2006 9:09:55 AM EDT
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It started in 1987. It's 20 years old. It IS old. Was my favorite show growing up. I want the whole set. But I'm not paying $700+ for it. |
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Posted: 3/22/2006 9:16:43 AM EDT
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Damn... TNG started in '87! Holy shit... Now I feel OLD.
~Dg84 |
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Posted: 3/22/2006 9:16:44 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/22/2006 9:18:38 AM EDT
[#5]
I don't know much about the show and I have a question: did they use money in their society? I never saw any, and I just wonder if it was ever addressed.
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Posted: 3/22/2006 9:28:08 AM EDT
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Kind fo hazy on the details, but I do remember them bringing it up once. I believe they said they don't use money. In Deep space nine they used bars of latinum as money though |
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Posted: 3/22/2006 9:42:28 AM EDT
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I looked on amazon and the complete set is $385 now
 but with DS9 and TNG together is over $1000 Why the hell is DS9 still $700 for the set?I don't know what the deal is with the pricing, I always wanted TNG DS9 and Voyager, but the was no way I was spending over $2500 for them, so I just stoped looking at them. I hope they understand Start Trek is dieing and lowering prices may help boost it again  I hope they all drop in price soon so I have something to watch after The Shield and 24 are over 
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Posted: 3/22/2006 9:45:03 AM EDT
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Cool. I'll still do better to get all 7 seasons for $48 each. But seasons 4-7 are still $111 on Amazon. Hopefully they drop as well. I'll just be patient. |
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Posted: 3/22/2006 9:46:16 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/22/2006 9:47:19 AM EDT
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I would only buy a boxed set if they would just put the battle episodes in and left out the touchy feely crap.
Sadly it would be a small set. |
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Posted: 3/22/2006 9:49:27 AM EDT
[#11]
Sam's Club here has the first 3 seasons of DS9 and TNG for the lower price ($48 or so each). I expect that the rest of the seasons will be along shortly.
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Posted: 3/22/2006 9:52:48 AM EDT
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Nope, they had these replacators that could make anything. So I figure the average person just sat around all day replicating weed, beer, and Cheetos. What’s the point in working (or money) if you can just replicate everything you want? That left a handful of assholes to fly around in their luxury spaceships moralizing on the superiority of their culture and the evils of Capitalism. |
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Posted: 3/22/2006 9:55:44 AM EDT
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Buy a tivo, spike tv plays DS9 and STTNG in order 5 hours every day.
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Posted: 3/22/2006 9:58:17 AM EDT
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The Original Series explanation was that no they did not. Later Gene Rodenbury's socialist utopia got a does of reality and in TNG this was updated to be that humans on earth (not Federation of Planets wide) did not NEED money to live their day to day lives. Several Federation planets were shown or talked about to be using money. Many non-Federation planets and other alliances did use money. After Rodenbury died the writers dropped the moneyless society idea entirely. Why would anybody haul toxic waste if there was no tangable benefit in it? It's anti-human. |
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Posted: 3/22/2006 9:58:35 AM EDT
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The first episode, "Encounter at Farpoint", had Dr. Crusher buy a bolt of cloth and ask that she be charged for it. After that I don't remember any money being used internaly by the Federation. Though perhaps some bartering took place between the various "Nation States" (You give me guns, I let these prisoners go) Now that I think about it, STNG was communistic (the utopian ideal communism). Everyone worked hard, and was just given stuff. There were no poor, or rich, and everyone was generaly happy. 
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Posted: 3/22/2006 10:00:31 AM EDT
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I have every season of all the star trek shows (voyager, DS9, TNG, enterprise, original) on DVD. Funny thing is, they are marked with the brand name "Verbatim"
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Posted: 3/22/2006 10:01:33 AM EDT
[#17]
Earth and several Fed planets were, and they were presented as the ideal, but it seemed like this was not common in their corner of the galaxy. |
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Posted: 3/22/2006 10:10:21 AM EDT
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I looked at the DS9 set of 7 season, still normal $100ish price, this is crazy! I am with you though, I have waited this long, I can hold out untill the ALL drop to $50ish |
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Posted: 3/22/2006 10:12:08 AM EDT
[#19]
You guys actually buy this stuff!?
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Posted: 3/22/2006 10:18:32 AM EDT
[#20]
Yep. I watch the shows when they re-run them on TV. With the DVD's I always have the episodes I really like. It's great stuff to put on when your cleaning guns or organizing ammo or other things that you want to watch somthing, but don't want to have to focus attention on it. Also great just to bring back memories. |
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Posted: 3/22/2006 10:33:36 AM EDT
[#21]
I've had my eye on the TNG DVD sets for a couple years now, but they're always ~$110 which is way too rich for my blood. I'd consider paying that for the whole series, but certainly not for one season.
I'll just download them and burn them if I have to. -James |
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Posted: 3/22/2006 10:40:45 AM EDT
[#22]
ebay is your friend, in this case.
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Posted: 3/22/2006 10:42:23 AM EDT
[#23]
Star Trek is a socialist utopia, and the Federation is pretty darn corrupt.
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Posted: 3/22/2006 10:45:50 AM EDT
[#24]
DON'T fall for the cheap, chinese/english versions
If you read the feedback of the seller, you will see a lot of unhappy buyers |
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Posted: 3/22/2006 10:47:57 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/22/2006 10:50:39 AM EDT
[#26]
Yup. Dont' forget the whole Quarks bar in DS9. He was making money like no one's business. 
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Posted: 3/22/2006 10:54:39 AM EDT
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Ebay's are usually bootleg coppies that don't work. Or so I heard on the intarweb.
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Posted: 3/22/2006 10:56:30 AM EDT
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The technical manuals (yes I have read some of the technical manuals) say that the reason Gold Pressed Latinum was used as curency was because it couldn't be replicated.
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Posted: 3/22/2006 11:00:28 AM EDT
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A cool. That would make sence. I still have the technical manual for the 1701-D. I used to read it all the time in Jr High. I would probably have a different take on it now that I have a degree in Electrical Engineering. 
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Posted: 3/22/2006 11:02:32 AM EDT
[#30]
I don't know why anyone buys DVDs of TV shows. |
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Posted: 3/22/2006 11:03:13 AM EDT
[#31]
But do you have the Blue Prints?
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Posted: 3/22/2006 11:09:34 AM EDT
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IIRC, latinum can be replicated - but you need latinum in order to replicate it. Thus pretty much negating the purpose. Replicators actually use bulk that's compacted and contained for whatever it creates. For instance, if you wished to have a glass of water, it would draw glass (for the container) and then hydrogen and oxygen, the two of which would be constructed at the molecular level in a composition of water. The thing I don't get is in one episode of TNG, Will Riker was "cloned" by a malufunction in the teleporter. One "copy" was beamed up to the ship, the other "copy" accidently beamed to the surface (and left to live by himself on a barren planet for 8 years). So, if this is possible, it means that teleporters do not store compositions and atoms the way a relicator does. This would indicate that the teleporter was able to construct two Will Rikers with the amount of atoms from one. Ok, long question short: why can't we use the same method to clone a thousand Lindsay Lohans for... um.... "entertainment purposes"? |
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Posted: 3/22/2006 11:12:07 AM EDT
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Do you have a favor TV show? Is it broadcasted 24/7 with you able to choose with episode to watch whenever you want? Sure, you could tape (ewww) your favorite TV shows and keep them on hand, but that would require touching a VHS - and I don't do that. (Oh, yeah, you can also let your friends/family borrow the DVDs too. I got my friends hooked on Stargate SG-1 that way.) |
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Posted: 3/22/2006 11:12:42 AM EDT
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The tech manual has some high level bue prints in it. But no, I don't have any big ass blue prints. I do have the inaugural edition collector card set. 100% complete, with all 4 hologram cards, plus the bonus rare gold hologram card that you had to send away for. All kept in the official card collation notebook. And I wonder why I never got chicks in High School.
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Posted: 3/22/2006 11:13:50 AM EDT
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I always understood that they created whatever the item was at the molecular level, and could transform just about any material into a desired item as long as they had enough raw material of any sort to draw from to create the desired molecular material. |
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Posted: 3/22/2006 11:13:55 AM EDT
[#36]
Ain't that the truth! Especially the first 2 seasons! 
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Posted: 3/22/2006 11:16:35 AM EDT
[#37]
 The combat ones are always good, too bad they were so infrequent.  the later seasons of Voyager seemed pretty good. Always loved the time travel ones. |
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Posted: 3/22/2006 11:18:33 AM EDT
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Poop is a useful "material" to use. |
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Posted: 3/22/2006 11:20:05 AM EDT
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+1 1987?? WOW, makes me feel like a: 
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Posted: 3/22/2006 11:22:44 AM EDT
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You don't think they did anything ELSE with that, do you? Of course they reused it. |
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Posted: 3/22/2006 11:42:40 AM EDT
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E=mc^2
or m=E/c^2 With unlimited (nearly) energy you can make lots of hot chicks in the holodeck. I always felt sorry for the poor shlub that had to clean up the holodeck after Riker was in there. |
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Posted: 3/22/2006 11:45:57 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/22/2006 11:48:53 AM EDT
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Since the holodeck also used replicator technology to actually create things like chairs and other objects(not people), then break them down for re-use, my guess is that baby batter would be absorbed into the replicator system. |
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Posted: 3/22/2006 12:06:52 PM EDT
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Thank you Geordi. Have all 7 STNG seasons on disc...courtesy of EBAY
Depends on the seller...READ the auction, Number One! All of mine are first edition American sets.Some purchased used from reformed geeks ( ) some from movie sellers. |
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Posted: 3/22/2006 12:08:26 PM EDT
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DS9 and STNG are on TV every day. I think the channel is SPIKE. I set my DVR set to record them . I must have over 40 episodes to watch now. The trick is watching them fast enough to free up space for more. |
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Posted: 3/22/2006 12:18:03 PM EDT
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basically how the transporter works is that it scans the person or object being transported, copies their molecular structure data, breaks down the original object or person, then sends on that data, and the beam reconstructs the object or person from local matter. In the case with Riker, there was some sort of feed-back-loop that caused the transporter to think it was beaming Riker up as well as down. So it materialized him on the ship, and materialized him on the ground as well using local matter. |
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Posted: 3/22/2006 12:35:30 PM EDT
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I always though they just took enery from the engines and made matter out of it ala e=mc^2
Edit: I have a book, 'physics of star trek' and if the bomb that destroyed .. nagasiak .. was 8 kg of plutonium. To replicate the 8 kg of plutonium you would need the energy of a 20 kt explosion (I'm not factoring in bomb effiecientie) to run e=mc^2 backwards and make matter out of energy.
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Posted: 3/22/2006 12:57:54 PM EDT
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With a warp core, I don't see why there would be a problem with energy.
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Posted: 3/22/2006 12:58:58 PM EDT
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All kinds of gems in this thread. |
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Posted: 3/22/2006 4:13:44 PM EDT
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Bump for evening.
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