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Posted: 3/15/2006 8:20:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/15/2006 8:21:32 PM EDT by DLoken]
Salon.com has released all the photos and videos of Abu Ghraib. They're fucking disgusting. I want all the apologists who said we didn't do anything to look at these and eat their hats.

Abu Ghraib photos


A choice few:

The detainee is covered in what appears to be human feces.

Detainee inserts banana into rectum.

Detainee died during an interrogation by OGA, and was placed in the shower area of tier 1, hard site. The body bag was opened so CPL GRANER and SPC HARMON could take pictures of the detainee. This guy was obviously beaten to death. OGA refers to the CIA.

Possible wounds from less than lethal rounds fired at the detainee.


There is much, much more.

I don't care what your stance on the war is but this shit is *disgusting* and what is further even worse is how lightly most of the perpetrators got off with these acts. Discuss. I pleasantly await The_Macallan.

Link Posted: 3/15/2006 8:23:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/15/2006 9:59:44 PM EDT by Black_Talon]
a banana in the bunghole
lol
Wow we are really mean. Not.
I sure the dead guy
a. really deserved it
or
b. fought
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 8:23:37 PM EDT
Google "beheading" so I won't have to.
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 8:24:59 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Roland_O_Gilead:
Google "beheading" so I won't have to.



The barbaric acts of another group has nothing to do with this. I thought we were all about taking the moral high ground and not stooping to the level of a bunch of Islamist savages.
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 8:27:14 PM EDT
I'm having a real hard time caring at all, which is unusual for me. I'm wonder if these guys shot at our guys in Desert Storm or in this war, but I couldn't care less. They're lucky to be alive IMO. After what we've seen them do, and what they're capable of, I just can't get a rise in my emotional responses.

Sorry...btw, when are you going to join the team?



HH
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 8:27:40 PM EDT
I'm not condoning it, and I almost asked to be let out of the Army over it, BUT...


They deserve much worse IF they are guilty of fighting us or aiding terrorists.

It just kills me that it was US that did that. You expect that shit from Jordan, Egypt, and Pakistan.

Link Posted: 3/15/2006 8:28:02 PM EDT
BFD

BIG FUCKING DEAL!

Link Posted: 3/15/2006 8:28:29 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DLoken:

Originally Posted By Roland_O_Gilead:
Google "beheading" so I won't have to.



The barbaric acts of another group has nothing to do with this. I thought we were all about taking the moral high ground and not stooping to the level of a bunch of Islamist savages.



While I don't agree with that type of conduct, "stooping to their level" is stretching it a bit don't you think?


Link Posted: 3/15/2006 8:29:40 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DLoken:
Salon.com has released all the photos and videos of Abu Ghraib. They're fucking disgusting. I want all the apologists who said we didn't do anything to look at these and eat their hats.

Abu Ghraib photos


A choice few:

The detainee is covered in what appears to be human feces.

Detainee inserts banana into rectum.

Detainee died during an interrogation by OGA, and was placed in the shower area of tier 1, hard site. The body bag was opened so CPL GRANER and SPC HARMON could take pictures of the detainee. This guy was obviously beaten to death. OGA refers to the CIA.

Possible wounds from less than lethal rounds fired at the detainee.


There is much, much more.

I don't care what your stance on the war is but this shit is *disgusting* and what is further even worse is how lightly most of the perpetrators got off with these acts. Discuss. I pleasantly await The_Macallan. our interrogators never received a medal



fixed
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 8:30:28 PM EDT

Originally Posted By out-a-ammo:

Originally Posted By DLoken:

Originally Posted By Roland_O_Gilead:
Google "beheading" so I won't have to.



The barbaric acts of another group has nothing to do with this. I thought we were all about taking the moral high ground and not stooping to the level of a bunch of Islamist savages.



While I don't agree with that type of conduct, "stooping to their level" is stretching it a bit don't you think?





I agree...that's nothing compared to beheading civilians...and burning bodies and hanging them from a bridge, or dragging soldiers in the street.
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 8:30:41 PM EDT
TWO YEARS and an election later, the effing media still thinks they can draw blood with this issue.
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 8:31:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/15/2006 8:31:24 PM EDT by adair_usmc]

Originally Posted By out-a-ammo:

Originally Posted By DLoken:

Originally Posted By Roland_O_Gilead:
Google "beheading" so I won't have to.



The barbaric acts of another group has nothing to do with this. I thought we were all about taking the moral high ground and not stooping to the level of a bunch of Islamist savages.



While I don't agree with that type of conduct, "stooping to their level" is stretching it a bit don't you think?





Eye for an eye should be SOP
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 8:31:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/15/2006 8:38:40 PM EDT by GA-Dawg]

Everytime I hear about how "bad we have treated those poor people" I want to puke. I'd love to put all these people who feel SO badly for them in a cell with them for 24 hours. They'd kill any american in a heartbeat with NO regard for your life or "feelings."
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 8:33:35 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DLoken:
Salon.com has released all the photos and videos of Abu Ghraib. They're fucking disgusting. I want all the apologists who said we didn't do anything to look at these and eat their hats.

Abu Ghraib photos


A choice few:

The detainee is covered in what appears to be human feces.

Detainee inserts banana into rectum.

Detainee died during an interrogation by OGA, and was placed in the shower area of tier 1, hard site. The body bag was opened so CPL GRANER and SPC HARMON could take pictures of the detainee. This guy was obviously beaten to death. OGA refers to the CIA.

Possible wounds from less than lethal rounds fired at the detainee.


There is much, much more.

I don't care what your stance on the war is but this shit is *disgusting* and what is further even worse is how lightly most of the perpetrators got off with these acts. Discuss. I pleasantly await The_Macallan.




Link Posted: 3/15/2006 8:34:45 PM EDT
War is war, don't fuck with us because we fuck back.
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 8:35:12 PM EDT


Link Posted: 3/15/2006 8:36:08 PM EDT
Boo Fucking Hoo! They should all be beaten like Baby Seals in a protected wildlife refuge that was just drilled for oil. And then BBQed with fresh whale meat.
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 8:36:37 PM EDT
Yep, just what I expected......My "Give-A-Shitometer" has nothing.
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 8:37:14 PM EDT

Originally Posted By LArifleMAN:
War is war, don't fuck with us because we fuck back even harder.



Fixed it.

HH
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 8:37:44 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DLoken:
Detainee died during an interrogation by OGA, and was placed in the shower area of tier 1, hard site. The body bag was opened so CPL GRANER and SPC HARMON could take pictures of the detainee. This guy was obviously beaten to death. OGA refers to the CIA.



So you were there when it happened? Great! Tell us all the details. You should be a medical examiner if you can tell how someone died from looking at a picture. I've seen worse shit in a single night in the ER as a med student.

Link Posted: 3/15/2006 8:38:03 PM EDT
All I know is that i'll sleep well tonight knowing that some men are ready and willing to do whatever is necessary to ensure the United States of America stays THE worlds superpower. We will bow to no one.


God bless all the real-world Jack Bauers we have.

Link Posted: 3/15/2006 8:39:06 PM EDT
I can't believe I haven't seen "I'd hit SPC Harman" yet.
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 8:39:07 PM EDT
So much for morals from the supposed party of morals.
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 8:39:48 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DLoken:
So much for morals from the supposed party of morals.




Link Posted: 3/15/2006 8:41:21 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 8:41:39 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DLoken:
So much for morals from the supposed party of morals.


Oh my......
did you even bother to log out over at DU or are you running the two sites side-by-side on your browsers?
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 8:41:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/15/2006 8:42:15 PM EDT by Sixgun357]
Have you ever been in a Turkish prison.



Link Posted: 3/15/2006 8:41:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/15/2006 8:42:44 PM EDT by HoustonHusker]

Originally Posted By DLoken:
So much for morals from the supposed party of morals.



Your opinion doesn't seem to be very well-received. Maybe a Team Membership would help you?

Nah...probably not.



HH

ETA: The DU forum seems more like a home for you.
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 8:42:36 PM EDT
Cool! Got any more pics.
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 8:42:59 PM EDT
Bunch of sheltered, whining Nancies.

Boo hoo, Abu Ghraib....

Link Posted: 3/15/2006 8:43:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/15/2006 8:45:14 PM EDT by DLoken]

Originally Posted By C-4:

Originally Posted By DLoken:
Detainee died during an interrogation by OGA, and was placed in the shower area of tier 1, hard site. The body bag was opened so CPL GRANER and SPC HARMON could take pictures of the detainee. This guy was obviously beaten to death. OGA refers to the CIA.



So you were there when it happened? Great! Tell us all the details. You should be a medical examiner if you can tell how someone died from looking at a picture. I've seen worse shit in a single night in the ER as a med student.




Look at the man's face. He's been severely beaten. You don't just die whilst being interrogated.

Fuck this website, a large majority of you are a bunch of disgusting and amoral pricks. I'm amazed that I've stuck around this long. I should just stick to shooting and gun collecting and stay away from any forum which discusses them.




Sorry...btw, when are you going to join the team?



I'm attempting to enlist in the Army right now. We'll see how that goes. Hell will freeze over before I contribute money to talk in a "team" forum with the likes of you.
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 8:44:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/15/2006 8:45:03 PM EDT by IchWarrior]
Hey, to be honest, I'd volunteer to be in a naked pile of man meat than get my head h4xx0r3d off by l33t terrorist h4x0rz.

Link Posted: 3/15/2006 8:45:06 PM EDT

Originally Posted By HoustonHusker:

Originally Posted By LArifleMAN:
War is war, don't fuck with us because we fuck back even harder with bananas .



Fixed it.

HH



Had to ammend that again
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 8:45:58 PM EDT
Jesus, if someone had pictures of the stuff we did for fun during football camp I don't know what the hell would happen. Of course, there was that one picture of me wearing nothing but a jock-strap and an Under Armour Heat Gear shirt.........
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 8:46:45 PM EDT


Link Posted: 3/15/2006 8:46:50 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DLoken:

Originally Posted By C-4:

Originally Posted By DLoken:
Detainee died during an interrogation by OGA, and was placed in the shower area of tier 1, hard site. The body bag was opened so CPL GRANER and SPC HARMON could take pictures of the detainee. This guy was obviously beaten to death. OGA refers to the CIA.



So you were there when it happened? Great! Tell us all the details. You should be a medical examiner if you can tell how someone died from looking at a picture. I've seen worse shit in a single night in the ER as a med student.




Look at the man's face. He's been severely beaten. You don't just die whilst being interrogated.

Fuck this website, a large majority of you are a bunch of disgusting and amoral pricks. I'm amazed that I've stuck around this long. I should just stick to shooting and gun collecting and stay away from any forum which discusses them.




Sorry...btw, when are you going to join the team?



I'm attempting to enlist in the Army right now. We'll see how that goes. Hell will freeze over before I contribute money to talk in a "team" forum with the likes of you.



You are going to wash out of the Army, they don't take kindly to whiny little pussy's like yourself enlisting in their branch of service.
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 8:47:12 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DLoken:
Fuck this website, a large majority of you are a bunch of disgusting and amoral pricks. I'm amazed that I've stuck around this long. I should just stick to shooting and gun collecting and stay away from any forum which discusses them.



Don't let the door hit ya' in the ass on your way out.
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 8:47:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/15/2006 8:48:06 PM EDT by HoustonHusker]



Sorry...btw, when are you going to join the team?




I'm attempting to enlist in the Army right now. We'll see how that goes.


Good for you! Good luck and good fighting. You just may find that your thinking might change when you or your buddies are being shot at or killed. We should all be proud that you're joining, but you should come back in awhile and let us know your thoughts at that time.

Just a thought.

Good luck young man, and may the wind be at your back!

HH
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 8:47:34 PM EDT
All those prisoners look better nourished than I do.
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 8:48:22 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DLoken:

Originally Posted By Roland_O_Gilead:
Google "beheading" so I won't have to.



The barbaric acts of another group has nothing to do with this. I thought we were all about taking the moral high ground and not stooping to the level of a bunch of Islamist savages.



What do you want everyone here to do.
Cry you a river
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 8:49:27 PM EDT
How many IEDs have you been hit by so far? How many friends have you known to be blown in half by IEDs?Treat them like the undeveloped annimals they are.Thet would do a lot worse to you.

Disgruntled/Deployed
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 8:49:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/15/2006 8:51:00 PM EDT by C-4]

Originally Posted By DLoken:

Originally Posted By C-4:

Originally Posted By DLoken:
Detainee died during an interrogation by OGA, and was placed in the shower area of tier 1, hard site. The body bag was opened so CPL GRANER and SPC HARMON could take pictures of the detainee. This guy was obviously beaten to death. OGA refers to the CIA.



So you were there when it happened? Great! Tell us all the details. You should be a medical examiner if you can tell how someone died from looking at a picture. I've seen worse shit in a single night in the ER as a med student.




Look at the man's face. He's been severely beaten. You don't just die whilst being interrogated.



Please list your medical credentials that allow you to come to that conclusion. Also, show me proof that he had no medical problems or injuries prior to being arrested. DU
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 8:49:59 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DLoken:
So much for morals from the supposed party of morals.



Boo Hoo Cry me a fuckin river.......Terrorists and enemies of the USA immediatly lose their title of "Human" as I see it. Imagine if America would have cared for the treatment of nazis in this manner. We would still be fighting the nazis.

Enemies are enemies..Period. We should have shot them on the spot and we would have to deal with the media and this Bullshit.
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 8:50:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/15/2006 9:00:04 PM EDT by nightstalker]
The press rode this like it was gonna win the war (wink, wink.and get Democrats elected)...quelle surprise

This is shocking and all that but I just noticed....abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=1722720...I forget now, how many did we kill in that prison? War is hell and it is a bit of moral relativism in the long run. I don't like it but I'm still overall pretty sure we've done the right thing way more often than not.

By the way, just exactly what do you think we should do about this? You must have something in mind?

Link Posted: 3/15/2006 8:50:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/15/2006 8:53:12 PM EDT by Billybob2002]

Originally Posted By C-4:

Originally Posted By DLoken:
Detainee died during an interrogation by OGA, and was placed in the shower area of tier 1, hard site. The body bag was opened so CPL GRANER and SPC HARMON could take pictures of the detainee. This guy was obviously beaten to death. OGA refers to the CIA.



So you were there when it happened? Great! Tell us all the details. You should be a medical examiner if you can tell how someone died from looking at a picture. I've seen worse shit in a single night in the ER as a med student.



It was a combo....


The Armed Forces Institute of Pathology later ruled al-Jamadi's death a homicide, caused by "blunt force injuries to the torso complicated by compromised respiration." According to the report by Maj. Gen. George R. Fay, al-Jamadi's death occurred less than an hour after his arrival at the prison.


Personally, I don't give a shit about the guy because he was likely involved in a attack against the Red Cross. However, people do need to control themselves from going overboard.

Edit: oops
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 8:51:12 PM EDT
When and under what circumstances were the beatings administered to the persons you say were obviously beaten? I want a precise answer from you. When were the injuries suffered relative to the time the individuals were taken into custody? You are instructed to further shore up your pretense of moral superiority with a precise statement of the time and circumstances of the infliction of the depicted "less-lethal" wounds in relation to the time of capture. In fact, it will be necessary for you to either explain and document exactly how, when, and why each "atrocity" you purport to document was effected, or to make a lengthy post in which you explain why nobody every tried to recruit you to serve as a detective.
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 8:53:09 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DLoken:

Originally Posted By C-4:

Originally Posted By DLoken:
Detainee died during an interrogation by OGA, and was placed in the shower area of tier 1, hard site. The body bag was opened so CPL GRANER and SPC HARMON could take pictures of the detainee. This guy was obviously beaten to death. OGA refers to the CIA.



So you were there when it happened? Great! Tell us all the details. You should be a medical examiner if you can tell how someone died from looking at a picture. I've seen worse shit in a single night in the ER as a med student.




Look at the man's face. He's been severely beaten. You don't just die whilst being interrogated.

Fuck this website, a large majority of you are a bunch of disgusting and amoral pricks. I'm amazed that I've stuck around this long. I should just stick to shooting and gun collecting and stay away from any forum which discusses them.




Link Posted: 3/15/2006 8:54:27 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Billybob2002:

Originally Posted By C-4:

Originally Posted By DLoken:
Detainee died during an interrogation by OGA, and was placed in the shower area of tier 1, hard site. The body bag was opened so CPL GRANER and SPC HARMON could take pictures of the detainee. This guy was obviously beaten to death. OGA refers to the CIA.



So you were there when it happened? Great! Tell us all the details. You should be a medical examiner if you can tell how someone died from looking at a picture. I've seen worse shit in a single night in the ER as a med student.



He was beaten to death....

[qyote]The Armed Forces Institute of Pathology later ruled al-Jamadi's death a homicide, caused by "blunt force injuries to the torso complicated by compromised respiration." According to the report by Maj. Gen. George R. Fay, al-Jamadi's death occurred less than an hour after his arrival at the prison. [/uote]



Fine. Who beat him to death? When were his injuries sustained? What was his condition when he entered the prison? I've seen people die an hour after arriving in the ER. It doesn't mean the ER staff beat them to death. No flame towards you, but I'm tired of the biased media.
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 8:55:28 PM EDT
IBTL
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 8:55:48 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ErinMT:
IBTL



+1
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 8:57:21 PM EDT

Fuck this website, a large majority of you are a bunch of disgusting and amoral pricks. I'm amazed that I've stuck around this long. I should just stick to shooting and gun collecting and stay away from any forum which discusses them.


At least you are aware of your short-comings. Buh-bye.
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